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Mideci · 08/29/08, 7:28 AM

Earl, respect intended, your copy-paste proves absolutely nothing except that Maelkiruth doesn't understand what you are talking about and then -- at the end -- is probably ready to dismiss you because you are well past his quota time to talk with you.

It's an exploit. Period.

Game mechanics are specifically in place to prevent you from profiting at all from this. "The xp gained isn't as high" and "you will gain less xp when in a group with a higher lvl player though" proves he doesn't understand what you are talking about at all and he merely thinks you are instancing with a higher level player. If he understood that you were discussing having someone who the instance is in the process of booting get all the XP, I'm more than 100% sure he'd tell you it's against the rules.

They specifically went through a process of ending the "dot and run" process which was a less egregious version of what you've called "tap leveling". I'm sorry if you want to believe this is legal, but it is obviously not legal, obviously not a creative use of game mechanics, obviously an attempt to circumvent a clearly implemented penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group, and absolutely a fast route to a sanction or a ban. I have absolutely no idea why you think otherwise, why you think your transcript proves otherwise when it's clear the GM doesn't understand what you're talking about, why you think in-game GMs are any source of authority on this topic anyway, or why people think it's necessary to run this kind of exploit to level their characters.

You need to ask yourself this fundamental question and you will clearly see its an exploit:

Is there an XP penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group? Yes or no.

The answer is yes.

"Tap leveling" is a method of using the one-minute instance-boot mechanic to circumvent said penalty. There is no possible legitimate use of the instance-boot, de-grouping mechanic here. It is solely being used to circumvent the high-level-in-party penalty. As such, it is an exploit.

If we can get this above the clutter on the official WoW forums, I guarantee you will find this to be the case.

08/29/08, 7:28 AM	#949 (permalink)
Mideci King Hippo Mideci Gnome Rogue <Exiles of Lordaeron> Stormrage	Earl, respect intended, your copy-paste proves absolutely nothing except that Maelkiruth doesn't understand what you are talking about and then -- at the end -- is probably ready to dismiss you because you are well past his quota time to talk with you. It's an exploit. Period. Game mechanics are specifically in place to prevent you from profiting at all from this. "The xp gained isn't as high" and "you will gain less xp when in a group with a higher lvl player though" proves he doesn't understand what you are talking about at all and he merely thinks you are instancing with a higher level player. If he understood that you were discussing having someone who the instance is in the process of booting get all the XP, I'm more than 100% sure he'd tell you it's against the rules. They specifically went through a process of ending the "dot and run" process which was a less egregious version of what you've called "tap leveling". I'm sorry if you want to believe this is legal, but it is obviously not legal, obviously not a creative use of game mechanics, obviously an attempt to circumvent a clearly implemented penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group, and absolutely a fast route to a sanction or a ban. I have absolutely no idea why you think otherwise, why you think your transcript proves otherwise when it's clear the GM doesn't understand what you're talking about, why you think in-game GMs are any source of authority on this topic anyway, or why people think it's necessary to run this kind of exploit to level their characters. You need to ask yourself this fundamental question and you will clearly see its an exploit: Is there an XP penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group? Yes or no. The answer is yes. "Tap leveling" is a method of using the one-minute instance-boot mechanic to circumvent said penalty. There is no possible legitimate use of the instance-boot, de-grouping mechanic here. It is solely being used to circumvent the high-level-in-party penalty. As such, it is an exploit. If we can get this above the clutter on the official WoW forums, I guarantee you will find this to be the case.