To CoH or not?
So, this is a long standing discussion amongst priests on this board -- when you're in mid/late T6, what spec should your priests be? The consensus seems to be that the first priest should be Imp D.S. and all other priests should be CoH.
Some background: we have 3 holy priests who currently raid. Two of them (myself and another guy) are pretty much 100% attendance; the last priest is consistently 66% attendance (2 of our 3 days -- he has a conflict on Thursdays). My solution from early T5 to now was to have the other two priests spec for Circle of Healing, while I remained Improved Divine Spirit -- since I was at basically every raid, this guaranteed us Imp D.S. while giving the other two priests more throughput/fun with CoH.
Now we come to mid/late T6, and specifically fights such as Gurtogg Bloodboil and (worse) Reliquary of Souls, and I'm no longer sure about this decision.
For one, I felt RoS was VERY hard to heal effectively without CoH -- we had 2 resto shaman, 1 CoH priest, 1 resto druid, 2 paladins, and me. While the paladins/me/druid kept the MT alive, I really felt like things would have gone better with another raid healer. On the flip side, we did successfully beat both RoS and Gurtogg with that set of healers, and in the end I suspect that we'll make more gains by being more specific in healing assignments for the raid healers -- e.g., 1 shaman on melee chain heal, 1 shaman alternating ranged and melee chain heal, CoH priest on 2 ranged groups, and Imp D.S. priest Prayer of Healing on the 4th ranged group.
I'll have to try that and see if it gives us better results. For now, I'll be staying Imp D.S. and we'll see what the future brings.
Some background: we have 3 holy priests who currently raid. Two of them (myself and another guy) are pretty much 100% attendance; the last priest is consistently 66% attendance (2 of our 3 days -- he has a conflict on Thursdays). My solution from early T5 to now was to have the other two priests spec for Circle of Healing, while I remained Improved Divine Spirit -- since I was at basically every raid, this guaranteed us Imp D.S. while giving the other two priests more throughput/fun with CoH.
Now we come to mid/late T6, and specifically fights such as Gurtogg Bloodboil and (worse) Reliquary of Souls, and I'm no longer sure about this decision.
For one, I felt RoS was VERY hard to heal effectively without CoH -- we had 2 resto shaman, 1 CoH priest, 1 resto druid, 2 paladins, and me. While the paladins/me/druid kept the MT alive, I really felt like things would have gone better with another raid healer. On the flip side, we did successfully beat both RoS and Gurtogg with that set of healers, and in the end I suspect that we'll make more gains by being more specific in healing assignments for the raid healers -- e.g., 1 shaman on melee chain heal, 1 shaman alternating ranged and melee chain heal, CoH priest on 2 ranged groups, and Imp D.S. priest Prayer of Healing on the 4th ranged group.
I'll have to try that and see if it gives us better results. For now, I'll be staying Imp D.S. and we'll see what the future brings.
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From my point of view (being a shaman and all), I view CoH as a "Poor Mans Group Heal".
This is because it requires a 41 point [e]Holy (those non-shadow trees all seem the same to me) build, the fact that it seems a bit weak, and most of all, because it requires groups to be standing beside each other. While yes, it can probably out-heal CH, the fact that CH relies on you picking the first target and it picks the other two within the raid. I'm not sure if it would make CoH a bit overpowered, but healing the lowest 5 health pools in the spell radius within the raid would make it a bit more valuable. |
Updated 03/16/08 at 11:57 PM by Binkenstein |
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Bink: CoH is 41 holy, not discipline. You're basically passing up Divine Spirit, so you're talking about a choice between two utility spells.
Yeah, it requires some positioning tweaks to work most efficiently, but with that done you've added a very powerful heal to your raid's arsenal in any situation with significant raid damage. On Gurtogg, it actually feels like cheating because of the way most groups set up their Bloodboil swapping. |
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LOL to the Shaman ... I found in the past that Shamans resto (which I love) feel a little timidated by CoH maybe because what it does is you target a person and it not only heals up them but all their pary members in a 15 radius of them. Now with that being and depending on the situation most raids everyone is not too far so if the one person is in my healing range and their members of their party are near them then his/her party all gets heals so when you see the whole raid take on tons of damage you can click on one person in each group as a CoH priest can just about heal the whole raid along with the rest of the healers. This in essence works almost as good as a CH .. but in reality of it all we all work together to help the survial raid of our raids so does it matter is a shaman out heals with their CH or a priest with CoH .. not in my book. We are all a team and need to work together ..
Do I agree its a weak NO ... CoH are just as vital to your raids from BT/H to some of the bosses in SSC/TK CoH is well worth having as part of your raids just as shamans, druids, non-CoH priests, and Paladins. |
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