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Kel'thuzad Timers

Tybudd — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:33:18 GMT

There is bug with the Kel timers, atleast while trying to solo him, you get the initial timer of the event starting no timers are visible after the Kel activation bar has expired.

[Fixed] Karazahan Attumen the Hunter Wipes

Iceblossom — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:39 GMT

I believe this has happened with the 6/18/13 maintenance day.

I run several of my characters through Kara for Attumen's mount (yes, still... it eludes me) each week. Each of the characters has received a "wipe" message after the encounter this week. Today, I took a character in that had never been in Kara before and got the same "you have one total wipe" message. I always wait for phase 2 of the encounter, as one time I killed too quickly and had unlootable corpses. So with 5 different characters and kills, I have gotten essentially the same message on each.

Attumen the Huntsman yells: Always knew... someday... I would become... the hunted.
Reputation with The Violet Eye increased by 262.
You are now saved to this instance.
Combat against 10 player Attumen the Huntsman (5%) ended after 53 seconds. You have 1 total wipes on this difficultly.

DBM Spell Timers

Juvencus — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:19:24 GMT

Would it be possible to have specific timers remove themselves after a wipe if their cd is being reset? Like Rebirth etc.

WARNING: Mod compatibility

MysticalOS — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 04:33:06 GMT

I've completely redone core and all mods to use a new load method. This includes DBM-Core AND all optional old content mods. the new load methods will be faster, more efficient, and most importantly, NOT dependent on the map any longer (so less prone to breaking do to conflict with other mods messing with map or user messing with map).

As such, there may be some brief compatibility issues. The new core will no longer support any map based loading. As such, any old mods that are using map based loading will no longer function (AT ALL). Even if you load them manually, the setzone call in the mods itself will still be broken, the mods literally will just be non functional.

To ensure working mods, you must do following

1. use dbm latest release and the latest RELEASE (not alpha) versions of old content mods downloaded from CURSE (not here).
2. Use dbm latest alpha, and all the latest versions of old content mods downloaded from HERE or latest ALPHA versions off curse.

To be more specific. DBM-Core revision 9833 and higher require the following revisions of old content mods
Cataclysm, r68
Wrath, r62
BC/Classic, r480

DBM-Core revisions OLDER than 9833 require
Cataclysm, r66 or OLDER
Wrath, r61 or OLDER
BC/Classic r 478 or OLDER

You can find archived revisions of old content mods here
Deadly Boss Mods - Cataclysm mods - Files - WoW AddOns - CurseForge
Deadly Boss Mods - Wrath of the Lich King mods - Files - WoW AddOns - CurseForge
Deadly Boss Mods - Burning Crusade and Vanilla mods - Files - WoW AddOns - CurseForge

Older alphas of dbm core here
Deadly Boss Mods - Files - WoW AddOns - CurseForge

If you are using latest alpha of core and latest old content mods, you should have no issues. my initial tests show no bugs and things look good with full change over to new methods. This is merely a warning for those using non alpha version of DBM-Core to possibly avoid conflicts with their old content mods. or perhaps users who have curse client set to download alphas of core but NOT alphas of old content mods. If you are a client user, set client to alphas for all dbm mods, or release for all dbm mods. release and alpha do not mix.

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Jessamy — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:01:10 GMT

Post: Subtle Ways of Subtlety
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Most of your post is fine. But your comment, "Generally speaking, although I haven't done any ToT, there's at most one boss where we can't get behind" should have been omitted. If you don't have personal experience with something, don't guess. You may be wrong, as in this case.

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On Positional Requirements and Unpopularity:

As long as there aren't more than one or two fights where you can't use Backstab or Ambush for the majority of encounter, I don't see any issue with the positional requirements. Generally speaking, although I haven't done any ToT, there's at most one boss where we can't get behind. Consider that Sub was fine for DS even though Ultraxion was a bitch. Of course, that's because sub had the highest damage, but that is how it should be - Sub has highest damage behind the target, lowest facing.

I think sub's main issue is chronic unpopularity. There are often questions on the official forums, even back in DS, asking what the PvE spec is - Assassination or Combat? - and never considering Sub. Of course, there's other reasons for Sub's unpopularity, it definitely has some issues in that it is less versatile than the other specs, but historically most people think it is significantly worse than it is.

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On FW Uptime and Saving Vanishes:

Interesting thought, we definitely won't know the uptime though for a while, but let's math some stuff out. Assume 25% haste and 100% uptime on SnD. Also, we are getting the equivalent of 5 energy every two seconds via our 2pc bonus. So, that's 12.5+4+2.5 = 19 energy/second. Let's bump that up to 20 energy/sec. Also, let's assume finishers cost 0 energy. This means we'd have to get 4 BS's off and an Ambush in the 10 seconds we have FW. That's 35*4+60 = 200 energy required over 10 seconds. If we have 20 energy/second, that actually works! Of course, the numbers came from my ass, but if the set bonus stays anything like it is now we could have an interesting time.

Of course, Vanish will still be very useful as it provides MoS, a longer FW, and Ambush might be better than BS even with the energy cost due to its higher damage and higher CP generation.

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Jessamy — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:55:35 GMT

Post: Frost DPS 5.3 - Winter is Still Here
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What do you think for DW stick with 2 set bonus and ignore the 4 set and try and stack as much mastery as possible to make it go over haste

Prot Paladin Simcraft

Wrathblood — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:29:50 GMT

The amazing yet modest Theck has taken over development of Simcraft's Prot Paladin module and is working with it to produce defensive/survival metrics in addition to DPS. Which absolutely rocks, in my opinion.

Here is the link to Simcraft's home site: https://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/

Theck drops by periodically and has graciously stated he's interested in discussing its development with folks. While there is likely to be significant overlap with the Prot Paladin theorycrafting thread, keeping the simcraft specific points in this thread will likely make the discussion cleaner and less confusing. If there is sufficient overlap, or this ends up being confusing after all, we can merge the threads or do something else. We'll see what the future brings.

Theck, let me know if there's anything I can do.

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Jessamy — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:47:21 GMT

Post: Unholy DPS 5.2 | Thunderstruck
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This may be a reasonable change to the set bonus. However we don't make wish lists for changes to the game we want Blizzard to make for us, but rather use math to find the theoretical best practices for the game they already made. This post is more appropriate for the official forums, where the developers are able to read and respond to player communication. (Your post in the frost thread is much more suited to this site.)

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If they keep the 4p bonus to affect DT they should also add a damage modifier to it like: "While DT is active DC increases your pet damage done by X% per cast, stacking up to Y times."
X should be something like 15%; Y should be like 10 (we get ~13 DCs, without AMS soaking, during DT, taking Mendenbarr numbers so enough to get full stacks every DT).

At the moment seems rather weak but I like the idea.

[Fixed][BUG] Missing ICC pre-combat roleplay timers

FuxieDK — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:20:10 GMT

Yesterday, I did my weekly ICC25HC mount run..

On Gunship, Saurfang and LK, the combat start/roleplay timers were missing..
Combat timers, once combat started, was fine.

Using last version available on curse..
Last week's raid was cancelled, but it did work 2 weeks ago.

Oh, while we're at it: Saurfang (horde side) roleplay is 1,5-2 seconds too long, i.e. there is time left on bar, when combat actually starts. Been seeing this, the last few months..

[Invalid] VictorySound in Ulduar

Fluclo — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:02:55 GMT

I've run Ulduar twice now, and both times once I've passed Kologarn, the VictorySound appears to play for every single mob that is killed, causing the victory sound to go nuts, playing multiple times on top of each other, since there's lots of trash continuously being spawned, right through to Hodir (at which point I've finally come out of combat and disabled the VictorySound in /dbm options so I've no idea how long it carries on for)

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Post: [Ret 5.3 MoP] Retribution Concordance (RetCon) - Who ordered the Mogu'gai Panda?
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I just got the 4pc t15 and have been trying to find the optimal priority.
Inq > 5HP TV > ES > HoW > Exo > (3-4HP TV if CS procced) > (J if CS procced) > CS > Judge > 3-4HP TV (> SS)
This is what I found on EJ, am I correct in assuming this is(the most optimal) without AW up for 4 pc t15? Also what does our priority change to while AW is up? Thanks for any help.

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Therya — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:25:01 GMT

Post: [MoP] Beastmastery 5.3
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This could start a conversation but it didn't. I will move this to the simple Q&A.

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And so, with the nerf of stampede, there is no use to cast RF before now?

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Therya — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:22:39 GMT

Post: [MoP] Beastmastery 5.3
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So you answered just by quoting? This is not offering anything to the discussion other than your try to moderate. Report posts instead.

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Again, this is wrong. Please read http://elitistjerks.com/f74/t130554-...ing_questions/ again.

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Q) How does hunter/pet focus regeneration work?
A) Base hunter focus regen is 4 fps (focus per second). 1% haste increases your focus regeneration by 1%, so 10% haste for instance would increase your base regen to 4.4 fps. It is intended that any buff labeled as haste gives focus regen and attack speed does not, but there are some exceptions- heroism/bloodlust does give focus regen and so does rapid fire. Pets have 5 fps regen by default, and inherit the focus regen multipliers from the hunter (which means that they will end up with 25% more passive focus regen than the hunter since their base is 25% higher). Pets do not inherit static focus gains applied to the hunter (such as rapid recuperation).

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Therya — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:17:04 GMT

Post: [Ret 5.3 MoP] Retribution Concordance (RetCon) - Who ordered the Mogu'gai Panda?
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Please don't ask for people to confirm if sim is working or not. It is working. If you think there is something wrong with it you can ask its authors.

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Sorry to derail the thread, but I just started using simulation tools in an effort to maximize my DPS. The initial post states that as long as haste > 0.5 str, that:

Red Socket: Fierce
Yellow Socket: Quick
Blue: Hit/Haste

Does that take into account Plate Specialization, and the 5% stats buff? Right now, SimC tells me that 1 haste is 0.54 str, so:

Bold: 160 str = 176 str
Fierce: 80 str + 160 has = 88 str + 160(0.54) str = 174.4 str

This suggests that, albeit small, gemming str should increase my DPS. Is this true, or does the tool already account for the bonus str? Like does it assume that 1 str is really 1.1 str?

Thanks for the help, and thanks to those that replied to my previous question regarding 4pT15. I don't freak out as much anymore in those situations :-P

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Therya — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:16 GMT

Post: Rogue Simple Questions: Mists Edition
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This has been discussed any number of times, and the (relative) strengths and weaknesses of all three specs have been described. This is the simple Q&A but there is a thread with all the answers already about this. If the answer is not in the OP you can always read the comments, there is a lot of information there.

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Hi all.
I have a quick questions if someone has a couple of moments to answer. I've been playing catch up and am starting to get better gear however weapons are the one thing that still elude me (just unluckly). So my question is, considering other in the guild are also after weapons, what is the spec that overall performs best in ToT. Using ShadowCraft, it seems to me that combat comes out better, however spending slot of time reading this across the web it seems that due to fact that there are a number of multiple boss fights that assassination pulls ahead due to the multiple dipatch phases.

As I'm not going to get four weapons which performs better over the whole raid?

Thanks

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Jessamy — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:58:22 GMT

Post: [5.2 Combat] I'm Not Dead Yet
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Originally Posted by Scomt (Post 2302684)

I have a quick combat question. Which is better: Hand of the Dark Animus X 2 or one Hand of the Dark Animus (MH) and one Megaras Poisoned Fang (OH).

And why do you feel one combo is better than the other?

Keep in mind too, typically, the best dagger to use whether for combat sub or assassination are the shared boss loot daggers which are Fyn's Flickering Daggers. Though granted a lot of people don't put them into there BIS list because for all we know they'll never drop.

As one said above, best bet is to test with all the different weapon setups you have till you sim the most dps.

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Jessamy — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:57:42 GMT

Post: [5.2 Combat] I'm Not Dead Yet
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Scomt: Given that both weapons deal with capped stats, it really depends on your other gear. Can you use all of the expertise of 2 animus, or all of the hit on the fang.

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Jessamy — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:57:26 GMT

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[Fixed] LUA Error on LFR ToT Zone In

Officedr0ne — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:11:38 GMT

Version 5.3.3-10-gdd362f7

Date: 2013-06-15 09:47:03
ID: -2
Error occured in: Global
Count: 6
Message: ..\AddOns\DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua line 266:
bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)
Debug:
[C]: ?
[C]: ?
DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua:266:
DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua:265
DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua:2037: LoadModsOnDemand()
DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua:2029: handler()
DBM-Core\DBM-Core.lua:418:
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Jessamy — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:07:30 GMT

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I'm looking at the set bonus for survival, and wondering if it would be a DPS loss or gain to pool explosive shots to use during favorable times. The set bonus stacks to 20, and the lock and load procs can add a proc.

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Jessamy — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:58:33 GMT

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Originally Posted by chrisirl (Post 2301148)

SC adjusted your gems based on your frozen stat ep values (of the moment you clicked it) which valued haste-x2 over agi. It doesn't check the dynamic changes in stat values by replacing each gem one after another and stopping when haste no longer out-values agi. So you need to start with your agi setup, then one by one replace yellow and prismatic sockets with pure haste until your dps calc no longer goes up (but avoid it going down). You will see your haste eventually be perfectly half of your agi ep value and this is the "sweet spot" you aim for.

That sweet spot did happen after just changing one gem to full haste. Thanks for your help :)

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Jessamy — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:56:34 GMT

Post: Assassination from the Mists
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After getting the ilvl 600 cloak and HC renataki i decided to consult Shadowcraft about gemming and reforging. There was no problem with my reforges but when I clicked Auto Gem All Shadowcraft decided to change my Agility gems with pure haste or hit/haste gems. My haste rating went up like 3.5k but my agility dropped 1.2k. And the dps scale on the right side went down by -704 dps. Should I trust Shadowcraft and go with full haste or stay the way I am?

My Character is Tasalda - Twisting Nether EU

Add count on timebars for certain spells

felixhui — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:40:00 GMT

First of all, sorry for my poor English as I am not an English speaker.

Nowdays every classes have personals and raid cooldowns, in an encounter at least one spell is designed to suit the players' cooldowns.
We have specWarnDischarge in CouncilofElders with a count now, it's nice.
To display a count on timebars for those spells would help so much on kills, especially on Heroic.

More spells should be supported, especially for those hit really hard, e.g. InterruptingJolt - DarkAnimus, CrashingStar - TwinConsorts, NuclearInferno - TwinConsorts, etc.
As well as supports in the future patches.

Thanks.

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Therya — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 14:05:49 GMT

Post: [Resto] It's Raining Heals 5.3
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If you read the descriptions of the trinkets you will easily see that in fact they are not.

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Simple question: Are the trinkets ordered from best to worst?

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Therya — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:56:27 GMT

Post: Like Water - The Brewmaster's Resource [5/31/13]
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Originally Posted by lairpie (Post 2301118)

Boss hits me for 1 million. I eat 300k, and stagger 700k (I didn't bother to figure out how far off realistic 70% stagger without 2t15 procs is, but its either coming, or still doesn't really undermine the example much), purify it immediately, heal for 700k*.3= 210k. Net damage taken: 90k.

Its really hard to purify before the first tick of stagger as it happens 1 second after you take the hit. The bonus is still pretty awesome, but i dont like when blizzard makes a spec be THAT stupid. Now as long as you cap hit and expertise, you only need mastery,haste and crit are virtually worthless.