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Elitist Jerks - The Banhammer http://elitistjerks.com en-US Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:06:04 GMT vBulletin 60 http://elitistjerks.com/images/chestnut/misc/rss.jpg Elitist Jerks - The Banhammer http://elitistjerks.com Infraction for poptya: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81834-infraction_poptya_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:56:47 GMT Post: Combat (3.2) and Mutilate (3.1) Spreadsheets
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Originally Posted by Naganuina (Post 1466875)

If you are not putting any points in CQC you need to put in a filler point to get to the lower weapon specs(actually you need it just to get the the 15 point talents), mace currently uses one point of CQC since there are no OH maces in this tier.

Well aware, but I'm fist/dagger, so I'm 5/5 in CQC, I can get to the bottom of the tree without the point in endurance.

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]]> The Banhammer Aldriana http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81834-infraction_poptya_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/ Warning for Blacksen: 4. Whining in any form is forbidden. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81831-warning_blacksen_4_whining_any_form_forbidden/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:10:49 GMT Post: Icecrown Citadel "Gating" system
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I really dislike the direction that Blizzard is going with these encounters...

For Ulduar (and Sartharion), the hard mode concept seemed to be really working. General Vezax, XT-002 Deconstructor, Flame Leviathan, Mimiron, Yogg-Sarion, Iron Council - the hardmodes were drastically different fights. Each one took a completely different approach to the fight than their corresponding normal modes, and that's what made them unique. The mechanics, mindset, and tactics all changed.

Then came Trial of the Crusader. Hard modes here were just stupid. The fights were almost identical save for maybe 1-2 changes. You approached the fight in the same way and the only thing that changed was the necessity for perfect execution. The standards, however, did not change. The standard for perfect execution in the normal modes are identical to the standard of perfect execution in the hard modes.

Algalon was also a pretty massive flop. Most guilds killed Algalon in 5-6 hours of raiding. When I was in Ulduar, my guild spent 7 hours on normal mode Mimiron. We spent 5 hours 51 minutes on Algalon. Isn't that a pretty f***ed up paradigm? A normal mode fight takes more hours to learn than a gated hard mode fight? While Algalon was hard, the fact that it was so easy to learn is just depressing.

Hard fights should take hours to learn. You should have raid weeks where over 60% of your week is spent wiping on the same encounter. That's proof enough that the fight was challenging.

By forcing guilds to use only 5 attemtps per week, they're also setting up an idea that the average "good" raiding guild will down the boss in 25 attempts. For many guilds, that's one night of raiding. Now, apply that same standard to the best "hardmode" fights designed in all of raiding - Yogg-Saronx0, Mimiron Hard, M'uru, Kil'Jaeden, even Archimonde. Imagine if these fights had been tuned to be done in 5 weeks with 5 attempts per week. Imagine how much they would need to be nerfed to get to that point.

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I've just rerolled rogue and am rather fresh when it comes to melee (always been a shadowpriest), but I've been very lucky considering our guild needed active rogues and are 4/5 in Grand25, so I've gotten great gear in no time. I've always fancied daggers for rogues, so I've chosen to go for a muti build, but I'm not sure if I've done the right thing in going for ArPen 100% softcap.

What kind of stats are "best" for an endgame muti-rogue?

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Let's not turn this into an office beta thread with 3.3 on the way. Thanks

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what do you guys think about the 245 polearm off of Ony25 as a tanking weapon?

I landed this badboy because the raid leader reserved it for himself, passed it to me, and I used the charge on it to get the Reinforced Thunderstrike, and handed the Shadowstrike back to him. The Expertise and the EH on it are pretty solid.

I had the 10man version, so I was happy to land a higher top end damage, only downside is its extremely fast.

I suggest having your dps split this weapon with you. I happened to know the raid leader in this PuG, but in a guild run, one weapon benefiting two people is crazy.

]]> The Banhammer Aldriana http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81811-infraction_intoxication_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/ Infraction for acceleratum: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81810-infraction_acceleratum_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:56 GMT Post: Shaman: Simple Questions/Simple Answers
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I believe the spirit wolves heal actually saves healers mana and sets you on a confortable self healing position IF the healers are using mainly single target heals, on AOE heal spam or chain heals since it cant be controlled you might be fighting against the raid. Anyway it requires fairly complicated maths and its hard to calculate exact numbers considering all the variables involved (raid composition and healing methods). Its safe to asume on aoe heals it will be pretty bad but I doubt anyone can come up with accurate numbers.

AP vs Haste : I am debating the gemming myself and I remember the influence of Haste on Windfury output, EnhSim problems aside, a graph was posted long ago on WF proc/attack speed and I cant seem to find it anywhere, Certain increments on haste would make your attack speed pass over the WF peaks and be an actual dps loss, if anyone remember where's that graph at and if its still accurate at current patch please link the post. I think the windfury proc frequency might be the answer to the haste amount to gem to.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. After posting I realized that an incinerate eating up a backdraft only saves .05 seconds on average over a CB. That is in no way worth holding off the CB cooldown.

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I'm having a comparative dps issue. There are two ret paladins in my guild, let's call the other guy "Jack", and then me. I tend to do 5k dps in 25 man raids, but Jack somehow pulls out 8k.

His gear isn't much higher than mine to explain the large dps difference we have in raids. I'm in the T9.0 gear, while he's one step above. The biggest difference is our trinkets. He's got Darkmoon Card: Greatness, while I don't have the cash (or the means to get it a timely manner). I've only got Coren's Chromium Coaster and the crappy Battlemaster AP trinket.

Jack's professions are Engineering and Enchanting. I have Engineering and Mining. The main difference is he gets 80 more AP... big deal.

I know it isn't my ability use. I tried downloading CLCRet and saw no difference in my dps. I've even linked my Avenging Wrath to the Hyperspeed Accelerators CD on my gloves via a macro. And I use the gloves by themselves every off-minute.

The biggest jaw dropper is that he pulled out a whopping 12k on the Twin Val'kyr encounter, blowing everyone away. I can't figure out what the hell he's doing to get such rediculous numbers.

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Destro rotations being somewhat fluid: If in the middle of the bossfight, the CDs of conflag and CB line up to be ready at the same time, do you cast incinerate or CB next?

Conflag has a higher 'priority' than CB, so you cast it. CB has a higher 'priority' than incinerate, but you have backdraft now. And backdraft benefits incinerate more than CB.

Does anyone know which option has the higher DPS? Resetting the CB cooldown using up a backdraft after a fresh conflag, or casting 3 incinerates to use up the backdraft and then casting CB?

]]> The Banhammer Aldriana http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81807-infraction_noggog_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/ Warning for Afabar: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81806-warning_afabar_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:23:00 GMT Post: DW Builds 3.2 -Revenge of the Offhand (http://elitistjerks.com/f23/t27839-thread_ultimate_suck/post1466247.html) User: Afabar (http://elitistjerks.com/members/20691-afabar/) Infraction: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. Points: 0 Administrative Note: Message to User: ---Quote--- Please report bad posts rather than replying. ---End Quote--- Original Post: ---Quote--- Normalisation is just how the Attack Power is added to the Weapon damage. Normalized: Weapon damage = WeaponSpeed * WeaponDPS + 2.4*(AP / 14) Non Normalized: Weapon damage = WeaponSpeed * WeaponDPS + (WeaponSpeed + (AP / 14)) ---End Quote--- Post: DW Builds 3.2 -Revenge of the Offhand
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Normalisation is just how the Attack Power is added to the Weapon damage.

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Weapon damage = WeaponSpeed * WeaponDPS + 2.4*(AP / 14)

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Weapon damage = WeaponSpeed * WeaponDPS + (WeaponSpeed + (AP / 14))

]]> The Banhammer Aldriana http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81806-warning_afabar_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/ Infraction for Serol: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81805-infraction_serol_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:20:31 GMT Post: DW Tanking Builds
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I've been frost tanking on my DK for a while and I have been running a 13/53/5 DW build.

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The build only uses a 1 disease rotation (IT-BS-OB-OB-DUMP) and I found it easier compared to a 2 disease rotation for single target tanking. Haven't gotten a chance to test the threat against the OP's build, was wondering if 1 disease rotations are obsilete or if it is viable. Thoughts?

BTW my DK is Ynot on Moonrunner The World of Warcraft Armory

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You can easily add it with the current build and the proc can be measured by adding 40 strength per stack the 2k damage i cant measure however as proc rate and how there applied is unkown.

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Originally Posted by frmorrison (Post 1466010)

4 Piece is between 40-60 dps bonus which isn't that great (with 2p being 150-250 dps). The OP is still accurate.

Rawr can tell you when item swapping is better, it is really good program. It is an interesting mini-game for me finding out which combination of items with reach the hit and exp caps. Assuming you were replacing similar item level items, then the 4 piece is slightly better.

Thanks for the quick reply. Its exactly what I was looking for (an update or confirmation of the OP). I haven't been presented with a situation such as this where I can swap out one item and have backup gear to maintain hit/exp caps without dropping iLevels. Gracias. I will now consult the almighty RAWR for the fine tuning!

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i am 100% confused as to what normalization is doing to my strikes.

from both anecdotal evidence, personal bias, and extensive testing; a slow weapon is better than a fast one. However recently (as in the past few hours) i came upon the fact that DK strikes have their weapon damage coefficient normalized in some manner or other. does anyone here have a full grasp on how exactly that works?

eg. (with made up numbers)
with normalization a obliterate should do 2500 if im using a 1.5 speed weapon or a 2.8 speed weapon and the normalization is at 2.4 weapon speed.
without normalization an obliterate should do 1562.5 with a 1.5 speed and 2916.67 with a 2.8 speed weapon.

]]> The Banhammer Kaubel http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81797-infraction_irongnome_1_all_posters_make_effort_communicate_clearly/ Infraction for MathWizard: 1. All posters are to make an effort to communicate clearly. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81796-infraction_mathwizard_1_all_posters_make_effort_communicate_clearly/new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:28:35 GMT Post: World of Warcraft - Lore & Storyline discussion [SPOILERS]
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I think the hitbox is separate from the actual model, or at least it could be

I mean there are some dragons like Ony that you can hit from 20 yards away, and there are others where you have to be right up underneath it with your guy's weapon models actually connecting with the boss' model to hurt it

I agree that it's probably pretty irrelevant in any case. If you don't want things spoiled, don't read MMO-Champion, and if you do want things spoiled, you can probably figure out a way to spoil it for yourself unless Blizzard goes to truly epic trouble code-naming everything in their game files

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Originally Posted by Exemplar (Post 1465660)

Except that Saurfang was "hidden." The initial achievements (Storming the Citadel) and all other references were to "The Deathbringer." Even Blues referred to him as such on the forums. It was not confirmed "Deathbringer Saurfang" or even labeled as such until his fight began testing, at which point the cat is rather out of the bag unless they'd gone through the intense effort to rename him, give him a different model, and have different speech from what would occur on live.

Rapid guessing was that the Deathbringer was Saurfang, but there was no confirmation until he was accessible.

Occam's Razor - lavaman's clothing scraps match Bolvar to significant degrees of similarity. A randomly created lavaman mob would not be so congruent. The vision on Yogg was labeled "Burning Champion." It is therefore logical to make an assumption that the lavaman is Bolvar.

Hence rapid guessing is lavaman is Bolvar, but there is no confirmation until (if/when) he becomes accessible. Chances of lavaman not being Bolvar are low, however there is always the possibility that lavaman/Bolvar will not be used at all. Blizzard has scrapped plans before.

What exact role Bolvar will play in or after Icecrown has yet to develop. Having this as something to look forward to seeing, rather than something datamined months in advance is rather nice.

ha, that brings up an interesting idea

I wonder if some time in the future they'll start doing PTR balance/bug testing using unskinned models with no voice acting/emotes

Swapping out the strings, skins, and/or models probably wouldn't affect the code or balance testing much, and then they wouldn't have to let out as many spoilers

I'm not really sure if they do PTRs mostly for actual balance testing, or if it's more to let out sneak previews and generate hype, though

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exactly which stats from the hunter are transferred to the pet and in what ratios?

i am also curious as to whether the changes to pets in 3.3 are going to include the basic stats getting transferred as well as haste/crit/etc, so anyone with access to the PTRs who can bother to check, it would be appreciated ^^

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Hey, this is my first post here.. Just wondering what a macro would be for a Silencing shot mouse over? It wouldn't be something like /Cast Silencing Shot [Target=Mouseover]; would it?

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I am 6 hast from cap and i dont see any dps change when i regem to get caped, arent i suppose to get one exstra steady shot in when the global cooldown is down to 1,5 sec ?

pls enlighten me :-)

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Originally Posted by MaciejSas (Post 1463743)

Over time you will surely persuade more of those that are attracted and hopefully discourage those who wish to oppose.

Anyone with good/funny stories in which GDKP doubters receive their comeuppance? I was lucky in not having anyone mock my initial GDKP-run announcement on the server forum, and in only having one or two minor cases of Trade-channel morons mocking the idea in chat, but that's of course not the case for many other pioneers. Having done a lot of reading of GDKP-related posts on the Blizzard forums before and after conducting my first one, I have repeatedly seen the following pattern:

A. "What do you think about GDKP? This Elitistjerks thread says . . ."
B. "The raid leader will steal the gold! It's wrong to sell loot! It'll encourage gold buying!"
C. "Baddies will get loot! Only rich players will be able to join! This server is too backward for it to work!"
D. "I don't know, but I'll try it."
E. "Me too."
A. "GDKP run at ________ at ____ pm."
D. "Wow! We killed Anub and I made a profit despite buying an item! Sign me up for next week!"
E. "I went broke buying that trinket, but it was worth it. Sign me up for next week!"
F. "Nothing good for me dropped, but everyone stayed despite wiping on Anub twice. Sign me up for next week!"
G. "My guildmates told me about GDKP. Sign me up for next week!"
H. "I'll bring twice as much gold as the last time. Sign me up for next week!"

Etc., etc. The funny thing is that C. and D., like roaches that flee once the kitchen light turns on, never reappear once a single successful GDKP run occurs; I think I saw exactly one thread in which skeptics acknowledged that their concerns had been misplaced. Would that we had more honesty and forthrightness everywhere in life, not just in Azeroth!

(That said, we should also hear about cases in which the skeptics are for whatever reason proven right so the rest of us can avoid those situations, whether on our first or fifteenth GDKP run.)

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Can anyone help me explain how the rotation is if you're using GoD instead of GoIT with Unholy (16/0/55)

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im using the build in question...but for some reason im CD aren't popping up as they should...as i let go my last DC i dont have either DS or other to use....its it cause i dont have enough haste?

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I am trying to find infomation out for my girlfriend's ele shaman. Her name is sarapheena . She has great gear but dps is low. Her rotation is fs lava lb lb lb fs rinse and repeat. She sometimes throws a chain after the lava. On single targets she j
hits up to 5100 to 5200 but mutli targts like beasts in toc togc she drops ~4500dps. Looking for some feedback to help achieve high dps for her.

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That is exactly what I'm asking - thanks!

]]> The Banhammer Vykromond http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81783-warning_syrah_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/ Infraction for Endario: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say. http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t81779-infraction_endario_6_do_not_post_unless_you_have_something_new_worthwhile_say/new-post.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:44:12 GMT crit. - Unless you have someone putting up a slow debuff on the target dummy, Torment the Weak will not be triggered while testing. This is a sizable DPS boost that will always be up in a raid, so take this into account while smacking the dummy. - Go ahead and grab the Talisman of Resurgance with Emblems. It's one of the best trinkets out there for Arcane right now. ---End Quote--- ]]> Post: The Arcane thread
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Originally Posted by Jadeilicious (Post 1465818)

Hey everyone. I have a question as I am becoming increasingly frustrated. I am newly specced into Arcane as Fire has begining to suck for me. Here is a link to my armory. The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been using the typical ABx4 until MB procs and rinse and repeat. Perhaps I am not using my cool downs appropriately? IV and AP I've been using at the beginning of the fight, followed by my trinket "Fetish of Volatile Power" and eventually I'll use PM after the 4th AB if MB procs. I'm not sure if this rotation is making me fail, but my dps is less than stellar. I use magealert, scorchio2, and satrina as addons to help me with knowing when my stuff procs.

My DPS on dummies in org is crap. I'm hoping someone can give me some friendly advice. Also, I have 3 trophies in my bags plus T9.5 chest piece. Should I buy the badge trinket with +128 Int. with the Use of Increased SP?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Just a few quick notes off the top:

- Haste is of much greater value for Arcane than Crit. 30-35% crit self buffed is more than sufficient, and you've gone well past that.
- You can safely drop about 100 hit: with proper raid buffs, you can drop even more.
- Take the T9.5 shoulders and gloves over the robe. Again, haste > crit.
- Unless you have someone putting up a slow debuff on the target dummy, Torment the Weak will not be triggered while testing. This is a sizable DPS boost that will always be up in a raid, so take this into account while smacking the dummy.
- Go ahead and grab the Talisman of Resurgance with Emblems. It's one of the best trinkets out there for Arcane right now.

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