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Old 02/26/07, 11:33 PM   #1
Destrox
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Alchemy's latest changes

I have not seen anything on this topic thus far, therefore:

I have made a large amount of potions and elixirs in my quest to get some flask discoveries. I am elixir master. Prior to sunday, I could rely on making an extra elixir out of every 5-10. As of sunday morning, I have gotten on average, about 1 proc per 50 elixirs.

My question is, has anyone else noticed this, or am I making things up? From what my guildmates have noticed, this is also true for them. Have any other elixir masters noticed what I believe is a change? Have potion masters noticed this?

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Old 02/26/07, 11:36 PM   #2
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Our alchemists realised this about a week ago I think, once the aparent nerf to spawning rates of nodes/farm mobs became aparent too, & yes both Elixir & Potion masters have reported this.

However we have had some freaky times when from 10 Flasks you make 15, or from 20 pots you make 30... it just seems alot less likely than how it was at first.

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Old 02/26/07, 11:49 PM   #3
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Elixir Mastery does not seem to be as effective as it once was. Considerably so. Over the last ~500 combines, I've gotten less than 50 procs.

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Old 02/27/07, 12:01 AM   #4
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I've noticed no changes whatsoever. I've x5 proc'd Flasks of Supreme Power, Titans, Fortification and Relentless Assault all within the last week. The other day I went to make 10 Supreme Power and came away with 17, etc etc. I'm getting the same proc rate on normal elixirs that I always have. Roughly 10%ish.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

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Old 02/27/07, 12:04 AM   #5
Comebackid
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I don't know, it definitely seems like it has been proccing less then since when the expansion came out..

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Old 02/27/07, 12:17 AM   #6
thebuddha
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Why does this remind me of 'OMG Ony deep breaths more!'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance is probably the answer you're looking for.

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Old 02/27/07, 12:32 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by thebuddha View Post
Why does this remind me of 'OMG Ony deep breaths more!'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance is probably the answer you're looking for.
Or, My Jboots feel slower. I have noticed a decline also, but I just chalked it up to randomness.

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Old 02/27/07, 12:41 AM   #8
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I started to notice a decline in procs about 7-10 days ago. When I first became an elixir master I got procs virtually every 5-10 combines. Now it is common for me to make 20+ elixir and not see a proc. It is not really a big deal since any extra proc is basically free stuff and nothing to complain about, but I do wonder if I'm just seeing a string of bad luck or whether they actually changed the proc rate.

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Old 02/27/07, 1:03 AM   #9
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Title of this thread is pretty misleading since other than your Spidey Sense going off none of you have any real evidence of a decline in proc rates.

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Old 02/27/07, 1:06 AM   #10
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and here I was hoping for Blizzard realizing how entry-level raiding content requiring Naxxramas-style consumable buffing is silly. Oh no, they actually make alchemy even more expensive!

I guess we can stop complaining at this point, Tigole has turned into Raph Koster 2 and consumable buffing will stay because of his "vision".

They've banned consumables from the arena, so they are well aware how overpowered a fully buffed group would be if the other group didn't use them, yet they keep them for raids. I honestly can't imagine another reason why this still works like that.

Last edited by Keline : 02/27/07 at 1:16 AM.

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Old 02/27/07, 1:23 AM   #11
Eloran
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Because otherwise encounters are almost trivialized when guilds do fully pot up? Also it just puts more of a time sink in for people...having to farm mats or gold to buy mats for consumables.

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Old 02/27/07, 1:48 AM   #12
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Don't allow potting up in raid zones then! Or allow it in arenas, I'd rather do 10 arena matches fully buffed and flasked for my epics a week than what we have in raid zones right now.

The double standard here is unbelievable, especially when considering how much better arena gear currently is compared to raid gear (ilevel 115 on weapons and BPs, 110 on the other 4 armor pieces)

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Old 02/27/07, 2:21 AM   #13
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Seems to be the same to me. When I first got elixir mastery about 3 weeks ago I made a batch of a few hundred pots and came up with a rate of about 15% total extra output from elixir mastery. This rate seems to be the same today.

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Old 02/27/07, 4:13 AM   #14
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I've had some odd things happen with Alchemy.

I was doing Major Dreamless potions to level to 375, and since I'm a Potion Master I got some procs.

Got two, they weren't the issue.

The third, however, came up as a 5x, rather than the 2x you'd normally get. I can post a screenshot if you guys want me to prove it.


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Old 02/27/07, 4:19 AM   #15
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eh, had anyone figured out a proc rate for elixir mastery "before" the "change" and has anyone figured out a proc rate "since"

Like, the chances that 10 people who read these forums have had a bad luck streak at the time you posted this are pretty good. Ancedotes are nice flags.. but: numbers?

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Old 02/27/07, 4:26 AM   #16
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10-15% is all I've ever suspected the proc rate of being, and everything posted in this thread falls within that range.

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Old 02/27/07, 4:28 AM   #17
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This thread is rather wild speculation without some conclusive testing.

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