◊ Praetorian

Random question: There's a site that lets you design your own WoW items and does the math for you as you type in the stats for what ilvl it would be. Can someone link that site?

 

Tacitus

http://wow.blupp.net/

Google ftw

EDIT:Gurg > me, I'll shut up for the next week

Brotherhood, Peace, Unity

Welcome back, Comrade

 

◊ Praetorian

Don't say ftw.

And no, you didn't read what I was asking for. This is just a site to make hilarious tooltips of fake items. I want a site (and I know I've seen/used a specific one, but it was a while ago) that will do item calculations for me. So I can say Epic chestpiece, +30sta, +34int, +80 healing, +10mp5, and it'll spit back what ilvl that item would be. Just looking to get some illustrative numbers together without having to wear out my calculator.

 

Uziel

Gurg, I think Subcreation has what you are looking for:
http://subcreation.net/itemlevel/

 

Malan

That is indeed the site Gurg would want, except they haven't updated to include socket values for 2.0.

 

Omelet

It also doesn't include the new combat ratings and it's giving a div/0 error when you put basically anything in the script.

Sockets are also in-flux (previously used a scaling cost, now being changed to a set cost).

 

Kazanir

Also, it doesn't appear to use the new TBC weighting for Stamina.

 

wikberget

And on top of that it can't sacrifice dps on weapons.

Gurg, you scared the hell out of me when you split the thread. Thought I posted in the wrong one :P

 

Nezralix

Although some of the Tier 5 items actually line up with expected ilvl values if you use the old formula, like the Destroyer Handguards. That may also suggest that they haven't reduced the value on block value, which seems like it should be the case since mobs are hitting for large amounts to compensate for the much larger HP pools.

Not that it's on-topic or anything, but interesting stuff!

 

◊ Praetorian

Funny you mention that. Some of the epics I've looked at don't seem to do so either.

Take a look at this for example:

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54649

That only has the budget of an ilvl 105 item if you count stamina as costing the same as other stats.

Also, for a real laugh, compare that item to this: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59732

 

Kazanir

Nor can it add extra armor as a stat.

Leave it to the EJ boards to point out all the flaws in someone's calculator in under 15 minutes.

 

◊ Praetorian

Alcaras's calculator hasn't been updated in 10 months, so yeah. :P

Anything else out there?

 

Kazanir

I maintain that I am only laughing right now because it is absurd, NOT because it is humorous.

 

Nezralix

Alternatively... if I look at the Destroyer Gauntlets (DPS set), I get an ilvl of 103.2. Then, if I multiply the stamina value by 1.5 to get 37.5, I end up with an ilvl of 119.9.

Compared to the Destroyer Handguards, where I get an ilvl of 120.4 with the calculator, or 146 if I adjust the stamina value to its new expected value.

EDIT: In other words, some values appear to use the old stamina formula, and others may have even *increased* the stamina cost by 50% instead of reducing it.

 

Kytrarewn

This isn't what you're looking for, but didn't thottbot used to have a plugin where you could attach -hyz or somesuch to the end of the item name, such that it would calculate the actual iBudget for the item and compare it to what it should be?

Was that removed? If so, why?

 

Omelet

I have a spreadsheet (excel) done in accordance with the old values, but it does have the ability to update the constants in order to match with the new values.

It was originally on fileplanet.com, but I've long since lost the link. I've uploaded it as an attachment.

edit : It's much bigger than I realized, let me know if you'd rather not have it posted here.

Attached Files

Item_Balancer_3.0.xls (1.12 MB, 282 views)

 

sulliwan

http://wow.tachyonsix.com/itemMaker/

This is what I got in my bookmarks, no idea how up to date it is though.

 

kharen

This is the one i've been using, and as far as i can tell, although it doesn't support the rating system, it does at least have the new stamina weighting.

 

◊ Boethius

Haha, I sneez at your large files. There's a reason why we have max_upload set to 50M in php.ini.

 

wikberget

Why cant I access the attachment?

 

◊ Praetorian

Sweet, this is the site I remembered using and was looking for.

 

◊ Boethius

You should be able to download it. Let me know via PM if that is not the case.

 

Cryect

Try it with any of the tier 4 lacking sockets and you find they are all treat Stamina under the old value. Which is the major cause of why Tier 4 seems such a pitiful upgrade for they try to give it as least much stamina as the blues but it eats up all the budget :-/


Edit: Actually doesn't seem to be for all of them. Prolly need to do a review of them and try to peg which ones have been done correctly and which haven't.

 

Nezralix

http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3846

Virtually every item on that list is under-budgeted. I'm willing to bet that's true for most level 70 instances.

EDIT: Ones without sockets anyway.

For some real hilarity, check out Elementium Band of the Sentry - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28407

Adjusted for correct stamina values, it has an ilvl of 85.

 

Copernicus

Posted in the wrong thread.