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Old 02/28/07, 5:44 PM   #1
Nite_Moogle
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The Warcraft Armory

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#index.xml

I wouldn't have believed they'd finally do this if I wasn't seeing it with my own two eyes. It doesn't look like they have some of the deeper information in place yet, but damn.

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Old 02/28/07, 5:47 PM   #2
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The site is obviously pretty overloaded right now, but if it is what the main page description says, it's funny to see it make its debut as websites like Rupture come into existence.

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Old 02/28/07, 5:49 PM   #3
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Clearly nobody will use it because it doesn't have a restricted invite system to drum up interest.

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Old 02/28/07, 5:55 PM   #4
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Could be very nice as you won't have to worry about keep your profile up to date. Provided of course that it becomes stable after the initial traffic rush dies down. I've been able to select my character and guild, but have not been able to look at any of the results yet.

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Old 02/28/07, 5:56 PM   #5
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I'm the only level 70 Wodin in the game :coolfish:

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Old 02/28/07, 5:59 PM   #6
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Before it got killed with traffic I was able to look at one character profile and looked like you could see many more details about a character then I myself would give out.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:02 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Kalince View Post
Before it got killed with traffic I was able to look at one character profile and looked like you could see many more details about a character then I myself would give out.
Rupture goes well beyond that, even to show which consumables were used during a fight, how long the fight lasted, all the equipment in your bags.. etc. Too intrusive.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:06 PM   #8
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If anybody gets a character profile to come up they should post a screenshot. I'm keen to see what this actually looks like.
edit: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ch...th&n=Punchline appears to work.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:08 PM   #9
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This is quite cool. But it needs a variety of opt-outs.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:09 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Wodin View Post
I'm the only level 70 Wodin in the game :coolfish:
Holy crap I'm the only 70 Bekah in the game. LOL that's awesome! Of course I can't see any details- every time I try the site just gives me a blank page.

Shows promise. Here's hoping Blizz has the bandwidth to maintain a monster of this size without losing the questionable stability of their forums server.

Edit: "Why aren't my lifetime honorable kills displayed under Achievements?
In order to have your lifetime honorable kills displayed, you must have at least 1337 honorable kills."

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Old 02/28/07, 6:09 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Rupture goes well beyond that, even to show which consumables were used during a fight, how long the fight lasted, all the equipment in your bags.. etc. Too intrusive.
You still kind of consent to giving out that information by using whatever product it is that pulls your data. With the armory Blizzard has decided for you that you would like to display everything.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:11 PM   #12
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No! All my secrets!!

Given the competitive nature of the raid scene, I'd prefer people didn't have access to see my gear. It begs the question: what gear do they see? What I'm wearing when I log off? What I am currently wearing? What I was wearing at last maintenance? These are not vital secrets but I'm sure some people in the PVP scene want to limit how much their opponents might know about what trinkets they use and such. I'd much rather have a Blizzard run item drop database taken from live servers so you can browse equipment that people have been able to see. Being able to see what the furthest guilds have been able to see might add some impetus to keep feeding bliz your 15$ a month.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:11 PM   #13
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Yeah, I'm actually not really happy that it makes information like gear set up and talent build public information with the arenas out there. I know I'll be looking over the set ups of all of the top 5v5 teams in my battlegroup, and I'm sure they'll be doing the same.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:11 PM   #14
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Someone made a female gnome warrior after me...

There's always free cheese in the mouse traps, but the mice there ain't happy.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:13 PM   #15
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It begs the question: what gear do they see? What I'm wearing when I log off?
Yes. It doesn't show bags that I can see, so you can log out naked every night and your gear secrets will be safe.

Why do I have what appear to be temporary buffs and debuffs appearing on my character sheet?
The way the character sheet is updated currently includes all active buffs and debuffs on your character at the time you log out of the game, including item-based buffs

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Old 02/28/07, 6:13 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Bekah View Post
Here's hoping Blizz has the bandwidth to maintain a monster of this size without losing the questionable stability of their forums server.
I think some of us would rejoice if their forums server imploded on itself.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:20 PM   #17
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Wow. Not only is my name super-common, but my actual character is only 75% relevant. I'd think that my fortunate guild name should put me somewhere around 110%.

Originally Posted by Kalince View Post
You still kind of consent to giving out that information by using whatever product it is that pulls your data. With the armory Blizzard has decided for you that you would like to display everything.
The same could be said for the use of the WoW client, couldn't it? I'm not going to pour over the EULa/TOS right now, but I'm pretty sure that Blizzard holds the rights to the data.

Last edited by Apate : 02/28/07 at 6:26 PM.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:29 PM   #18
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When this is working, this will be incredible, especially for guild management. All they need to do is:

1. Include instance keying information (shattered halls, karazhan) etc.
2. Support a public API (i.e. xml) for character information.

Some enterprising young soul can then write a real time guild management tool and you don't need to hound your members about keying/attunements, etc.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:34 PM   #19
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While not terribly useful for you US based people wanting to check out your own info if you want a look at what it shows in general the european one seems to be a lot less overloaded.

http://armory.wow-europe.com/#index.xml

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Old 02/28/07, 6:39 PM   #20
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Wow, if blizzard adding some more bandwidth to this site, this is an excellent tool (from guild management, to looking at the competition, to seeing what gear people have all without their consent (I am sure the EULA says they can do this).

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Old 02/28/07, 6:41 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Grymm View Post
NGiven the competitive nature of the raid scene, I'd prefer people didn't have access to see my gear. It begs the question: what gear do they see? What I'm wearing when I log off? What I am currently wearing? What I was wearing at last maintenance?
Its at least somewhat delayed but fairly close to live data. Will take a while for it to be determined for sure what forces an update and I'm sure blizzard will be adjusting this a lot while its tuned for performance on a larger scale.

Also, I hope Blizzard will add some of the information to the armory it apparently isn't showing yet but they track. Example being how many times your character has died.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:41 PM   #22
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Oh no gurg will find out I don't have defiance

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Old 02/28/07, 6:45 PM   #23
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One nice feature would be rare patterns you have. It looks like it at least saves it when you zone into/out of an instance but not when you teleport / portal.

I'm still shown wearing my wonderful greens of stamina from our attempts on maulgar earlier this evening which I changed out of after we called it and portalled out.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:46 PM   #24
Kalince
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I am sure it is in the EULA but there is no reason I have to be happy about it.

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Old 02/28/07, 6:51 PM   #25
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I'm looking forward to telling people who come onto these forums and say "X boss is easy without pots, you just suck" after looking up their info and seeing 13 wipes and 300g in pots spent.

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