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Old 03/06/07, 5:41 PM   #1
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2.0.10 Cleave implementation

Hi,

Any melee want to share their experiences with 2.0.10 to see if the discussed changes to cleave have been implemented.

The patch notes show that Soccothrates has been made more melee friendly, so I was hoping that the cleave mechanic had also been stealth changed (fingers crossed).

Pewsey has heard about tact and discretion, but tends to regard them much as children view vegetables.
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Old 03/06/07, 5:52 PM   #2
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I believe this was one of the changes mentioned in a Blue post that didn't make it to the patch notes? They said that Eye of Kilrogg would be getting fixed to have a proper stealth value then later got taken from the patch notes, but I hear that the change went through anyway.

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Old 03/06/07, 5:55 PM   #3
Antoine
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The Eye of Kilrogg change did not go through.

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Old 03/06/07, 6:12 PM   #4
Axanor
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Wasn't the change to Soccothrates the tonedown on the immolation aura that tended to murdify melee?

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Old 03/06/07, 6:22 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Axanor View Post
Wasn't the change to Soccothrates the tonedown on the immolation aura that tended to murdify melee?
Yes.

It certainly wasn't that bad (I've done him a number of times), but it was very anti-melee.

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Old 03/07/07, 10:48 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by pewsey View Post
Yes.

It certainly wasn't that bad (I've done him a number of times), but it was very anti-melee.
I went through Arcatraz last night and it was a cake walk. Those changes really made him quite trivial as the aura does about half the damage and he didn't seem to hit as hard either.

The whirlwind lady (sorry, I don't have her name handy) seemed a bit nerfed too...she killed off our mage and shadow priest because they decided to take aggro from me by dpsing non-stop through the whirldwinds and we ended up 3 manning her with a prot tank, moonkin, and priest.

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Old 03/07/07, 12:17 PM   #7
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The legionares in heroic blood furnance still are almost impossible to melee from any side. They spam (almost every 1.5 seconds) sweeping strikes that hit plate for 5k +. Not really "cleave" but still ridiculous.

I still noticed Quugmaran on Heroic Slave Pens also has cleave issues still. Sometimes he would hit me behind him, sometimes not at all.

Looks like several mobs are still very melee unfriendly, or broken.

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Old 03/07/07, 12:34 PM   #8
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We got Wizard of Oz last night and Tinman's Cleave was as bad as always. Couldn't tell a difference on Ethereal Thieves either so our Rogue stayed the hell away, as always.

I'd go as far as to say this is one change they've yet to implement (which seems strange).

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Old 03/07/07, 12:36 PM   #9
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The Myrmidons in heroic steamvaults still have thier cleave/sweeping strikes attacks and still rape melee

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Old 03/07/07, 12:38 PM   #10
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Did they actually implement any of the things they talked about for this patch?

I've yet to find a socket item that was changed in the way of a buff, I've yet to hear of Gruul toning and definatly didnt see any changes to tier4 except for nerfs to rogues.

What!?

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Old 03/07/07, 12:47 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Vhad View Post
Did they actually implement any of the things they talked about for this patch?

I've yet to find a socket item that was changed in the way of a buff, I've yet to hear of Gruul toning and definatly didnt see any changes to tier4 except for nerfs to rogues.
I assumed that when they meant "next patch", they meant "next content patch", or 2.1. There's no doubt that most of these changes are a little too sweeping for the devs to have fixed in a week.

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Old 03/07/07, 2:10 PM   #12
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I'm pretty sure the change is going into the content patch. I was definitely getting cleaved from behind by the guards in Gruul's lair last night.

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Old 03/07/07, 2:36 PM   #13
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2.1.0

The changes to cleave will most likely go into our next "Major Content Update" or 2.1.0.

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Old 03/07/07, 2:39 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Tigole View Post
The changes to cleave will most likely go into our next "Major Content Update" or 2.1.0.
Wishing they were sooner but it is good that you guys are looking at it to begin with!

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Old 03/07/07, 3:32 PM   #15
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Careful Tigole! Not having a complete profile may get you banned here! :P

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