Hi,

Any melee want to share their experiences with 2.0.10 to see if the discussed changes to cleave have been implemented.

The patch notes show that Soccothrates has been made more melee friendly, so I was hoping that the cleave mechanic had also been stealth changed (fingers crossed).

I believe this was one of the changes mentioned in a Blue post that didn't make it to the patch notes? They said that Eye of Kilrogg would be getting fixed to have a proper stealth value then later got taken from the patch notes, but I hear that the change went through anyway.

The Eye of Kilrogg change did not go through.

Wasn't the change to Soccothrates the tonedown on the immolation aura that tended to murdify melee?

Yes.

It certainly wasn't that bad (I've done him a number of times), but it was very anti-melee.

I went through Arcatraz last night and it was a cake walk. Those changes really made him quite trivial as the aura does about half the damage and he didn't seem to hit as hard either.

The whirlwind lady (sorry, I don't have her name handy) seemed a bit nerfed too...she killed off our mage and shadow priest because they decided to take aggro from me by dpsing non-stop through the whirldwinds and we ended up 3 manning her with a prot tank, moonkin, and priest.

We got Wizard of Oz last night and Tinman's Cleave was as bad as always. Couldn't tell a difference on Ethereal Thieves either so our Rogue stayed the hell away, as always.

I'd go as far as to say this is one change they've yet to implement (which seems strange).

The Myrmidons in heroic steamvaults still have thier cleave/sweeping strikes attacks and still rape melee

Did they actually implement any of the things they talked about for this patch?

I've yet to find a socket item that was changed in the way of a buff, I've yet to hear of Gruul toning and definatly didnt see any changes to tier4 except for nerfs to rogues.

I assumed that when they meant "next patch", they meant "next content patch", or 2.1. There's no doubt that most of these changes are a little too sweeping for the devs to have fixed in a week.

I'm pretty sure the change is going into the content patch. I was definitely getting cleaved from behind by the guards in Gruul's lair last night.

Wishing they were sooner but it is good that you guys are looking at it to begin with!

Careful Tigole! Not having a complete profile may get you banned here! :P

>_> I have half a mind to think that's not the Blizzard poster, Tigole, though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Pretty sure it is, he's made posts here multiple times before. :o

It is, though his "Blizzard" forum title seems to have been eaten by the forum software switch. Let me fix that....

Thanks for the update. Good to know you guys are still watching the community at large.

So how many of you guys also clicked "Add Tigole to Your Buddy List"?

Well I was just largely unimpressed by seeing no changes or nerfs to socketed items that I have, which seems quite contrary to what was said in the notes etc. Slight derail I apologize.

Do you have tier 5 loot or SSC loot? That's what was supposed to be addressed. I think any meaningful itemization fix is going to take a bit of time. I'd rather they do it right than try to make a quick haphazard pass over the raid loot and screw things up in some other way.

Oh I agree, but the notes said: I admittedly don't have any tier5 or SSC epics, but when reading over threads on tier5 changes they all seemed very minor, like something the lines of +5 dmg or something on the tier5 mage for instance. I guess I was wrong in thinking that tier4+ and crafted epics etc. with sockets were High end.

Oh well, they said they were continuously looking into it, so I'll just wait some more I guess.