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Old 03/06/07, 6:32 PM   #1
Gogusrl
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Arena teams selling (best money maker?!)

In the last 2 days a rogue and a shaman from my guild have been selling 2-3 1900-2000 2 man arena teams for 500g each peaking at 800 g for a 2100 rating arena team.
You pay up, get invited in the team, and you can run your 10 games (maybe even win a few) for some quick 500-600 points.
That puts the arena caster 1h at 3000g and other pieces even cheaper.
Will this become a new trend ? Will Blizzard try to prevent this or will just allow it as a legit way to make gold ?


p.s. sorry for any spelling mistakes, english is not my native language.

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Old 03/06/07, 6:35 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Gogusrl View Post
In the last 2 days a rogue and a shaman from my guild have been selling 2-3 1900-2000 2 man arena teams for 500g each peaking at 800 g for a 2100 rating arena team.
You pay up, get invited in the team, and you can run your 10 games (maybe even win a few) for some quick 500-600 points.
That puts the arena caster 1h at 3000g and other pieces even cheaper.
Will this become a new trend ? Will Blizzard try to prevent this or will just allow it as a legit way to make gold ?


p.s. sorry for any spelling mistakes, english is not my native language.
How do you win games in 2v2 at the 2000 level when half of your team consists of someone who is in all likelihood incompetent? Wouldn't getting that person even a minimum number of games cost you heavily in the rating department?

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Old 03/06/07, 6:39 PM   #3
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I think that since you're hopefully matched against people of similar ratings, the 10 games you lose don't cost you too much. You basically get your team up to 2100 points with 2 good players, then swap in the buyer, and at worst lose 10-15 points a game for 10 rounds. Hopefully he's not horrible and listens to instructions, so you win a game or two as well, and end up in the 1900-2000 range.

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Old 03/06/07, 6:42 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
How do you win games in 2v2 at the 2000 level when half of your team consists of someone who is in all likelihood incompetent? Wouldn't getting that person even a minimum number of games cost you heavily in the rating department?
They do not run any games with you, you get a friend, buy the team and play the 30% of the games with your friend. Ofcourse most of the time, it will bring your rating down more or less, but it`s still a cheap way to get great gear.

They started a 3vs3 arena team now to keep it top 10-15 rank and sell it in the last week for netherdrakes. Hell, i`m ready to cash out 1-1.5k gold for easy mode armored netherdrake.

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Old 03/06/07, 6:57 PM   #5
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Well, theoretically, they only need to play 3 games. However, you would need to do this over more than one week, since you will have to play many games to get your rating up that high, than play 7 games the next week, and turn your team over for the 3 losses.

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Old 03/06/07, 7:04 PM   #6
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I wonder how the armored netherdrakes will work anyways, it would be colossally stupid of Blizzard to only include the teammates from the last week as the winners of the item, but if they start trying to include people who have been in the team a minimum number of weeks it can get hairy.

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Old 03/06/07, 7:17 PM   #7
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INGENIOUS! Since we only get rating from one group (5v5), we could actually make some good money from this.

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Old 03/06/07, 7:25 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by spronk View Post
I wonder how the armored netherdrakes will work anyways, it would be colossally stupid of Blizzard to only include the teammates from the last week as the winners of the item, but if they start trying to include people who have been in the team a minimum number of weeks it can get hairy.
I dont care if someone gets the mount for no work. If I'm on a team and helped them get to the end then I should get the mount even if I couldnt play on the last week due to composition.

On my battlegroup there will be five 5v5, ten 3v3 and twenty 2v2 teams getting the netherdrake. Basically under 200 people total, does it really matter if 50 of them snagged a free 200g mount?

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Old 03/06/07, 7:30 PM   #9
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What's the deal with the Netherdrake? What determines who gets one?

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Old 03/06/07, 7:37 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Bibdy View Post
What's the deal with the Netherdrake? What determines who gets one?
Top 0.5% of the battlegroup. So 1 netherdrake for every 200 teams created.

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Old 03/06/07, 10:09 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Gogusrl View Post
In the last 2 days a rogue and a shaman from my guild have been selling 2-3 1900-2000 2 man arena teams for 500g each peaking at 800 g for a 2100 rating arena team.
You pay up, get invited in the team, and you can run your 10 games (maybe even win a few) for some quick 500-600 points.
That puts the arena caster 1h at 3000g and other pieces even cheaper.
Will this become a new trend ? Will Blizzard try to prevent this or will just allow it as a legit way to make gold ?
There's a reason I suggested personal ratings, with team rating being the composite value of the ratings of the members, as a solution to both the "I have a horrible team - disband and reform!" and selling slots in winning teams problems.

I can't imagine Blizzard isn't going to try to find some way to prevent this; hopefully they implement something elegant (personal ratings) rather than something like a cooldown on team formation or a season-long team lock.

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Old 03/07/07, 1:31 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by marketa View Post
Top 0.5% of the battlegroup. So 1 netherdrake for every 200 teams created.
So Frostmourne is fucked, then?

Would be nice to but put in a battlegroup not filled with the oldest servers in the game, and not playing as as Australian server (and the lag) against US teams.

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Old 03/07/07, 2:42 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Lamaros View Post
So Frostmourne is fucked, then?

Would be nice to but put in a battlegroup not filled with the oldest servers in the game, and not playing as as Australian server (and the lag) against US teams.
Oldest servers in the game doesn't really mean much these days. I was discussing this this evening w/ my guild leader. Kilrogg is one of the oldest servers around, but both our PvE and PvP progress are pretty stilted compared to Tich/Blackrock/etc (other BG9 servers) - who also roll the shit out of Kilrogg in PvP. While 'rogg has good players, it just seems they're more spread around, then compared to other servers. Plus, there's the brain drain effect in play. A lot of the better PvPers on Kilrogg have left for Tich, etc - in pursuit of better/more PvP. I have to imagine there are similar stories on various other day 1 servers.

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Old 03/07/07, 1:36 PM   #14
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I see this as a good money maker and don't see much problem with it, people did it with BWL/AQ40.

Assuming you had a 2v2 or 3v3 1900+ rating that is only 400-800 points, and you need 1125 for the gloves. I guess you would need to sell two weeks on invites (so that the buyer sees a return). This is great for people that have a 5v5 team (so see no return on the lower brackets) and want to make some money.

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Old 03/07/07, 2:51 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
How do you win games in 2v2 at the 2000 level when half of your team consists of someone who is in all likelihood incompetent? Wouldn't getting that person even a minimum number of games cost you heavily in the rating department?
well you play like crazy in the first week, get 2100 rating and in the second week you play 7 games, so whoever buys your team only needs to play 3 games, losing at most 60 points.

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