Given that the t5 / t4 changes did absolutely nothing to adress the gear imbalance for priests, but gave a serious boost for raiding holy priests, I tried making a reasonable post about it on the wow general forums.

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....76487869&sid=1

I doubt it will get any attention, since I didn't call for Blizard to die or someone to rape Tigole's parents, but take a look and add your thoughts please.

Oh, 100g tailoring specialization change dialog on the trainer according to a mage in Shattrath before the server crashed. Sets still require the appropriate specialization to wear, but it gives you options.

Any idea how it works? Might be actually be usefull to make both sets then?

Odd that no one replied.

I was able to finally copy my character on Saturday to the PTR and they showed up a few hours later. I went shadoweave with my mage as I love frost and hoped it would be a viable raid spec, but sadly it isn't.

You just walk up to the current specilization guy in Shattrath and he has a new talk option, "I want to get rid of <my current specilization>." Hand him 100g and you have unlearned it. You are then free to talk to any of the other specilization NPCs and learn a new spec.

I didn't have to do the "quest" for the new spec (spellfire) but it could be because I had already done some Spellcloths and hence was "attuned", but it's pure speculation. You do have to pay 20g for the new specilization though, so in effect it's 120g to change.

You keep your tailoring skill level and patterns. I can't remember if I still had the shadoweave patterns in my tailoring list, but I doubt it. The shadoweave items were still in the bank though but you can't wear them as wearing them requires the correct specilization (much like "Requires level 70." requires level 70 to wear it. )

I'm glad they added this functionality and that it's so easy to change and that you get to keep the tailoring skill and patterns you've found.

I'm still skeptical that this isn't a test-realm only feature. On one hand, it would be nice to go back to frost with my mage rather painlessly, but on the other I'll be highly pissed about the approximately 2k gold I spent switching my priest from primal mooncloth to shadowweave.

If you see a blue confirmation at any point, I'd love to see it.

Not sure why you'd be skeptical, this type of respec obviously exists for other professions (behaving in exactly this fashion). While its unfortunate you (and others) spent so much money to work around this oversight, thats all it was, an oversight. I'm glad we're all on even footing now...though I wouldn't mind being able to smith my Tier 5...

Why the hell would they add such a thing to the test realm without at least intending to try it out for a live feature? It's not like a McWeaksauce attunement bot - there's no compelling *testing* reason to allow test realm switches between tailoring specs.

(Incidentally, 120g is right around the price point I expected - high enough that spec swapping on your cooldowns isn't a viable thing to do.)

I'm confused how people manage to spend 2k releveling tailoring. Getting green stuff disenchanted, leveling the last points on Arcanoweave boots instead of imbued robes and then selling off a few shards I got away with ~400g.

All the professions now allow specs to change (alchemy, LW, bs, tailoring, engineering) for a fee. It was pretty obvious this was going to happen, as it doesn't make sense for 2 profs to be able to but not the others.

I personally don't see a problem in tailoring. Anything they can do to make crafting worthwhile outside of alchemy is a good thing in this game. Let's face it, the crafting system was pretty bunk in 1.0.

Creating a swap meet and trading cloth to race others in the guild to finishing my Spellfire set was great fun at BC launch. My only real concern is that it seems one needs to be a Tailor to have a chance to compete in terms of magical DPS.

When switching specializations, you don't forget any already known patterns. So if you switch from Mooncloth to Shadoweave, you'll still have the Primal Mooncloth patterns in your list of known tailoring patterns.

I haven't been on the PTR myself, but would in theory be possible to:
I got the Spellfire set atm, gather up the Frozen-set mats,respecc tailoring and make it to have both sets? So that when I repsecc from fire to frost I could just change tailoring specc so I can still have equal about gear lvl? Or do I loose any tailoring-specc specific gear when changing? As the gear only requires the said tailoring-specc to wear afaik, not to have in the bank sitting.
I'm a mage incase you didn't guess.

That's possible, if expensive.

Scroll the page up, the answer to your question is literally 10 posts up.

Possible, and in fact it's my plan: I already have shadoweave made and am storing up mats to make Spellfire once the patch hits (since I've switched to fire for the time being.)

That's just it, there have been literally hundreds of posts on the wow forums about how there should be a way to switch specializations without retraining entirely, and there have been very official blue responses that retraining entirely + a 20g fee was the *intended* method. It wasn't an oversight at all.

Now, if they're bowing down to the pressure of the tailoring community with this change, that's fine. I'm greatly pissed on a personal level, but in reality it does me 0 benefit to force others to go through the same cost I did. In the end, I may even get some benefit from it being changed to a flat 120g or 100g or whatever. I'm not one of those people that will be posting on the WoW forums demanding reimbursement...there's no point.

QFT...my ToDo list is sooo short now. Shorter than it ever was pre-BC, and we're only 3mo into the expansion.

Isn't it nice? You get certain slots locked down and depending on your 25 man loot system, you can then get a better chance at gear you need. Say Magus Blade or Mindblade are what you really want. In most systems you'll be faster to get one of those if you don't purchase T4 pants / shoulders / hat etc.

I'm not a tailor, so I'm only using one piece of spellstrike (pants) and girdle of ruination. I love that I can gear up for raids partially without a raid drop and make myself more useful for the guild. I love excellent quality gear coming in from so many avenues (tailoring pieces, heroic badges for offhand and trinket, and the Arena weapon is pretty nice for raiding). I love feeling like I can have a more targetted wish-list in raids increasing the chance of getting what I really want. I love that with these other avenues of gear the guild gears up faster than the weekly resets would allow, and we aren't as limited by raiding gear influx as you were in Vanilla WoW. It also takes some of the burden off of recruiting and the sting out of gearing up new players.

Begin Daily Lurker #12512 report based on hearsay evidence.

(I did not take screen shots because I was performing the tests for my own benefit at the time)

I am a raiding aff warlock with 3 pieces of Shadow Weave.
The first thing I did when I crafted this set was grab a guildie and head for Terrokar to test this very point.
The test I performed was to have my accomplice body pull two spiders, lets call them Spider A and Spider B for this example, then begin attacking Spider A.

Reliably after a proc or two from shadowmend caused by DPS on Spider A, Spider B would head over to me, we performed this test four or five times with exactly the same result.

End report/slight derail.

I'd be a lot happier if you could make the set and equip regardless of specialization- similar to the robe of the archmage. It'd still take a huge number of cooldowns to make 2 full sets + off pieces.... That said, I understand why they didn't (easily swapping back and forth between sets is a little strong)- and at least the respec fee makes it a little more palatable.

I'm content with the gear I'm able to farm outside of raids, there are really very few slots that are tricky to boost a character up to SSC level if you're willing to put some gold and elbow grease into it.

It's nice to not have to worry about where applicants (at leas the casters) can go to gear up if the local feeder guilds are having a hard time breaking into even Karazhan.

Does anyone know if two new items reported are epic quality or if anyone knows the mats needed? Also reported are boots/belt of blasting but no stats found yet.

Belt of the Long Road
Binds when equipped
Waist Cloth
109 Armor
+9 Stamina
+15 Intellect
+30 Spirit
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +7 Healing
Durability 35 / 35
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 66.


Boots of the Long Road
Binds when picked up
Feet Cloth
134 Armor
+22 Stamina
+23 Intellect
+19 Spirit
Durability 50 / 50
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 66.
Equip: Restores 8 mana per 5 sec.

Yes they are (epic). No mats, they just appear in the priest box.