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Old 03/28/07, 4:14 AM   #1
Tidise
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
<Ret>
Mal'Ganis
Tsunami Talisman

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30627

Picked this up tonight from Leotheras the Blind in SSC. After about an hour of running ProcWatch while spamming an SS(to 5cp)>SnD>SS(to 5cp)>Evis cycle on mobs in the Blasted Lands, I failed to get a proc more than once every 45 seconds. The average time between procs was around 52 seconds =(.

Just an FYI for anyone who might be working on Leo or considering picking this up, its a nice item at first glance, but, it falls victim to the same hidden cooldown that Hourglass of the Unraveller does. I'm hoping they buff it because, currently, my 2piece T3 invigorate bonus very easily out heals it.

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Old 03/28/07, 4:19 AM   #2
Pane
Piston Honda
 
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Al'Akir (EU)
Sorry; but what hidden cooldown is that?

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Old 03/28/07, 4:25 AM   #3
Donjo
Von Kaiser
 
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Scilla
Originally Posted by Pane View Post
Sorry; but what hidden cooldown is that?
It has been speculated that many proc items have cooldowns that are about 2-3x the proc duration. There is no way to really tell an exact number without doing enormous data sampling but people certainly aren't getting back to back procs with many items.

P.S. Hey Tidise, I think we were guild mates once back in <DB> in SWG. It's been a long time but I remember the name and know a few people from the server joined Ret when WoW came out.

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Old 03/28/07, 4:26 AM   #4
Tidise
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Theres a hidden 45 second cooldown on Hourglass. Its been thoroughly tested.

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Old 03/28/07, 4:28 AM   #5
Tidise
Glass Joe
 
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Mal'Ganis
Lol yeah Donjo, we were. =o

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Old 03/28/07, 10:50 AM   #6
Tiiki
Rogue About Town
 
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The Venture Co (EU)
Originally Posted by Tidise View Post
Theres a hidden 45 second cooldown on Hourglass. Its been thoroughly tested.
What's the proc chance?

How badly does this ultimately make it compare to activated trinkets such as Bladefists or the Core?

It's annoyingly typical that two quest rewards may end up better than a boss drop (that seems initially better on the surface).

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Old 03/28/07, 11:04 AM   #7
Acustar
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Mal'Ganis
Anyone mind C/P the stats? I don't feel like waiting till I get home.

Originally Posted by Sebudai View Post
Addons aren't a crutch, they're tools to be abused by skilled players to increase performance. Like a carpenter using a hammer, a fisherman using a lure, or Xi using curse words.

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Old 03/28/07, 11:07 AM   #8
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Mal'Ganis
Tsunami Talisman
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 37.
Equip: Your melee and ranged critical strikes have a chance to heal you for 270 to 330.

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Old 03/28/07, 11:28 AM   #9
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Proc chance is 15%.

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Old 03/28/07, 6:30 PM   #10
Tidise
Glass Joe
 
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Yeah it has a great proc chance. It procs right away as soon as the hidden CD is up =x.

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Old 03/28/07, 6:35 PM   #11
Mist
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shattered Hand
Originally Posted by Tidise View Post
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30627

Picked this up tonight from Leotheras the Blind in SSC. After about an hour of running ProcWatch while spamming an SS(to 5cp)>SnD>SS(to 5cp)>Evis cycle on mobs in the Blasted Lands, I failed to get a proc more than once every 45 seconds. The average time between procs was around 52 seconds =(.

Just an FYI for anyone who might be working on Leo or considering picking this up, its a nice item at first glance, but, it falls victim to the same hidden cooldown that Hourglass of the Unraveller does. I'm hoping they buff it because, currently, my 2piece T3 invigorate bonus very easily out heals it.

Who cares, its 37 fucking crit.

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Old 03/28/07, 7:10 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Mist View Post
Who cares, its 37 fucking crit.
A heal that small that's on a 45 second 'cooldown' is practically worthless. Bloodlust Brooch, Hourglass, and Dragonspine Trophy are clearly better choices even when farming.

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Old 03/28/07, 7:43 PM   #13
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It's probably using the same code as Mark of Conquest. I know I want one of those for a farming set - with proper gear(e.g. 2pc Bonescythe, Mark of Conquest, and Darkmoon Fair card) it's possible to create a fully self-healing set(much harder now that Crusader is worthless, but still possible). If you don't have that it doesn't add much, but once you crack the "never has to stop" mark it makes for a great increase in gold/hour.

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Old 03/28/07, 7:51 PM   #14
♦ Praetorian
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Originally Posted by Wodin View Post
a farming set
A fine use for t5 raid loot from the second-hardest boss in SSC. :P

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Old 03/28/07, 8:56 PM   #15
Tidise
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
A fine use for t5 raid loot from the second-hardest boss in SSC. :P
Lol yeah, god so disappointed =(

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