Vashj is dead, long live Vashj

heel · 03/29/07, 6:42 PM

Posting about world firsts is somewhat of a faux pas here, but there are two items of interest for everyone in this particular event. Nihilum killed Lady Vashj, and

(1) Apparently, she only dropped four Vials of Eternity
(2) She instantly respawned, and they're killing her again

Every additional kill they get is another week where they don't have to spend time clearing SSC while working on TK for Hyjal attunement. There have been plenty of game-breaking raid-related bugs, but I think this one takes the cake.

(if this topic is still heap material, apologies in advance)

Amera · 03/29/07, 6:43 PM

Is this like a Netherspite-esque bug, kill her in a certain phase and she repops? Or just really evidence that they didn't test this stuff much at all.

thebuddha · 03/29/07, 6:52 PM

I'm always impressed with the creative ways Blizzard comes up with to artificially slow down progress.

Assuming Kael'thas is the same, that means you can't even zone a full raid group into Mount Hyjal until your 7th kill.

Though, I don't really see what is left to discuss.

End boss buggy? No surprises there...

It just seems to me that they haven't learned from their past mistakes at all even the ones they fixed. Think Drakkisath's blood and how only 1 originally dropped and then later they made it randomly 2-4.

Bibdy · 03/29/07, 6:54 PM

Question is, will she drop the same loot, different loot or no loot?

Fellwraith · 03/29/07, 6:56 PM

Looks like she dropped 2(!) nether vortex too. That's one very fast way to make a 95 dps 1h if the vortex is a guaranteed drop.

♦ Praetorian · 03/29/07, 6:58 PM

Originally Posted by Fellwraith

Looks like she dropped 2(!) nether vortex too. That's one very fast way to make a 95 dps 1h if the vortex is a guaranteed drop.

10 Vashj kills?

That's not what I'd call fast, bugged respawns aside (though I can't imagine they'd be permitted to farm her repeatedly like that).

Kazanir · 03/29/07, 6:59 PM

Sounds like it's gonna be fun when one of your guild applicants a few months down the line ninjas a Kael Vial so they can attune to Hyjal and app to the guild farther along than you in progression. >_>

Ok that wasn't either serious or constructive but I couldn't resist. The memories of Drakki's blood are too awesome.

• Hamlet · 03/29/07, 7:05 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

(though I can't imagine they'd be permitted to farm her repeatedly like that).

To be honest, do you really believe that? Even if a GM catches on quickly, it depends entirely on the individual GM whether he decides to immediately port the group out or something. And then, even if the respawn bug is promptly fixed, is someone going to dig through the inventories of Nihilum members to ensure that only 4 people got their Vial this week? They're going to wind up with with extras, when all is said and done.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any position to actually care about this. However, if I were Nihilum, I'd stay in there as long as possible, knowing that every extra kill before somebody catches on will probably translate to a very real week saved in the future.

ayb · 03/29/07, 7:07 PM

Since I'm sure there were GM's watching, I'm surprised they didn't despawn her

Fellwraith · 03/29/07, 7:08 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

To be honest, do you really believe that? Even if a GM catches on quickly, it depends entirely on the individual GM whether he decides to immediately port the group out or something. And then, even if the respawn bug is promptly fixed, is someone going to dig through the inventories of Nihilum members to ensure that only 4 people got their Vial this week? They're going to wind up with with extras, when all is said and done.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any position to actually care about this. However, if I were Nihilum, I'd stay in there as long as possible, knowing that every extra kill before somebody catches on will probably translate to a very real week saved in the future.

I'd think something like this would be flagged pretty quickly since it's a first time boss kill. You could parse the server log and reverse any drops taken after the second death of lady vashj.

• zeidrich · 03/29/07, 7:09 PM

Since I'm sure there were GM's watching, I'm not entirely convinced they didn't respawn her

/tinfoil hat off

• Snowy · 03/29/07, 7:11 PM

I think the only relevant point to discuss is dropping 4 vials. If that's intended then that's mind boggling considering that would put a brick wall into your progress. There would be no reason not to tune SSC (namely the trash) down a bit then, since you're still limited at the end.

As for respawning kills, well, that's all just speculation but I can't see that being permitted for long.

Litany · 03/29/07, 7:11 PM

Didn't Tigole mention once that he has some system in place to notify him when certain bosses die etc.? Even if him or another "high-up" developer wasn't watching, I'm sure they know by now and are considering what to do. I doubt it'd be left to some low-level customer service employee, but maybe it's Tequila Thursday and they're all out drinking! Then again, from the sounds of it, I'm not sure reproducing a kill will be extraordinarily easy anyways.

4 vials is definitely annoying though.

NmE · 03/29/07, 7:12 PM

All I can say is, SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Tired of alpha testing Blizzard´s encounters, and this encounter hasn´t been tested at all. Phase 3 is the biggest joke in TBC so far, and I cant believe that a boss as crucial as Vashj is in this state currently.

With that being said, the fight itself could have been great, provided that they fixed the 5000 bugs that exists currently.

heel · 03/29/07, 7:16 PM

Originally Posted by NmE

All I can say is, SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Tired of alpha testing Blizzard´s encounters, and this encounter hasn´t been tested at all. Phase 3 is the biggest joke in TBC so far, and I cant believe that a boss as crucial as Vashj is in this state currently.

With that being said, the fight itself could have been great, provided that they fixed the 5000 bugs that exists currently.

Details (w/o strats)?