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Old 04/05/07, 1:37 PM   #1
 Arawethion
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Anyone ever seen a bug where the Rebirth cooldown resets for no reason?

I don't have any other info. I'm absolutely certain that one of our Druids Rebirthed someone twice with 30 mins last night.

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2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 1:48 PM   #2
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It quite definitely happened to me last night. I used it after being soulstoned, and it was back up before the warlock's soulstone timer was back up.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 1:49 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Arawethion View Post
I don't have any other info.
Umm.... neither do we. Without more info, say a screenshot, or even, hell what zone/encounter you were in, this thread's gonna quickly fall into the "Screenshot or it didn't happen" Hole.

Anything, Combat logs, fraps, some homeless guy who can also "swear" it happened?
 
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Old 04/05/07, 1:52 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Fizwidget View Post
Umm.... neither do we. Without more info, say a screenshot, or even, hell what zone/encounter you were in, this thread's gonna quickly fall into the "Screenshot or it didn't happen" Hole.
This is a stupid notion that I'm pretty sick of. Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 1:52 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by tritus View Post
It quite definitely happened to me last night. I used it after being soulstoned, and it was back up before the warlock's soulstone timer was back up.
Edit: Toned down sarcasm

Does this mean you died and triggered SS before using Rebirth #2?

Again, which encounter/zone, and Ara, was the druid SS'd?

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Old 04/05/07, 1:58 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by diospadre View Post
Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.
I agree, I was not asking for irrefutable proof.

Since Ara posted that he witnessed the event, he should be able to provide us with more details to work with, other than the fact that the event occured. I laid down the sarcasm a bit heavy, perhaps.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:07 PM   #7
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At Aran, Druid A burns Rebirth right before the wipe. Definitely happened, because one party member died twice. Druid A was Soulstoned at the time, but never used it. Next attempt, Druid B uses Rebirth (I know because it was on me).
As we're running back, I ask whether Druid A has his back up (thinking he probably doesn't, but my RDX window is showing that they're both up, so I figure it's buggy). They say they both have it up. I ask whether this makes any sense. They say no. In Druid A's case, it was likely less than 30 mins, but I'm not sure. In Druid B's case, it was less than 5 minutes.
Within half an hour of that wipe, Druid B successfully uses his during an attempt.

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0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:29 PM   #8
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Did Druid B get soulstoned for that next attempt?
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:30 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by RK View Post
Did Druid B get soulstoned for that next attempt?
No.

I'll check all the details when I log in again as well.

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0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:32 PM   #10
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Extremely far-out idea, but was he in an Arena team that was also having activity of any sort?

That's one instance in Blizzard's code I can think of where cooldowns are resetted, so it might be a good starting place to look.

(I know Rebirth + Arena = ???)

Never ever had that happen to me though.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:43 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by diospadre View Post
This is a stupid notion that I'm pretty sick of. Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.
This IS the internet, dios.

As to the issue at hand, yes, last night on nightbane our druid combat rezzed twice during the fight (9 mins). And we have no idea how or why.

We don't use words like that...St. Louise is listening!
 
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Old 04/05/07, 2:47 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by falkon2 View Post
Extremely far-out idea, but was he in an Arena team that was also having activity of any sort?
That's one instance in Blizzard's code I can think of where cooldowns are resetted, so it might be a good starting place to look.
(I know Rebirth + Arena = ???)
I don't have any cooldowns longer than 15 minutes, but I thought that only cooldowns less than or equal to 15 min were reset when entering an Arena.

The interaction of SS on Rebirth could be doing something strange (like UA and Judgment of Light).

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Old 04/05/07, 2:52 PM   #13
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There is something going on with extremely long cooldowns, I know when Im randomly bging (though this might have to do with the battlegrounds) I will often have Lay on Hands finish its cooldown in diffrent matches.

For example, two nights ago I used LoH at the very end of a eye of the storm match, since I though I was going to head to bed.

A friend then convinced me to go back into the BG, when I loaded for the new match I noticed that my LoH was reset. Not more than 5 mins could have passed since I used it.

Anicdotal sure, but there is something going on.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 4:04 PM   #14
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One of our feral tanks used his the other night on a Hydross attempt and told us on vent he didn't even receive a cooldown... it was just ready to be used again. No, he was not soulstoned.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 4:12 PM   #15
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I had this happen to me several months ago on Twin Emps, where I used my rebirth on consecutive attempts - I thought it strange at the time and it hasn't happened to me again since.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 4:36 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Ataraxia View Post
One of our feral tanks used his the other night on a Hydross attempt and told us on vent he didn't even receive a cooldown... it was just ready to be used again. No, he was not soulstoned.
Now that's a fun bug... Return of the combat rezzer.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 5:12 PM   #17
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My Lay on Hands frequently cooldowns in about 20 minutes in karazhan, I'll try and take SS with timestamps next time I'm in the zone. I wasn't doing any arena play and I didn't have SS's. Was rather interesting noticing my LoH was back up and my DI was still on a 40 minute cooldown... o_O
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:26 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Drekor View Post
My Lay on Hands frequently cooldowns in about 20 minutes in karazhan, I'll try and take SS with timestamps next time I'm in the zone. I wasn't doing any arena play and I didn't have SS's. Was rather interesting noticing my LoH was back up and my DI was still on a 40 minute cooldown... o_O
I've had this happen. During the 2.0 era it was happening a lot, roughly every time I left a BG. I've not gotten to LoH twice in one fight yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone has.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:32 PM   #19
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We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.

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Old 04/05/07, 6:35 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by DeeNogger View Post
We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.
There's definitely something buggy with ressurections in general. Sometimes people just can't be ressed unless they exit WoW and delete their cache then log back in. Dunno what's causing it but I assume it would affect Rebirth too. Never seen the cooldown reset on rebirth though.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:36 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by DeeNogger View Post
We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.
Could have just been the good old rez-bug. We've been getting that every now and then recently.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:36 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by DeeNogger View Post
We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.
Was he ressable after the fight? There's a bug going around which makes people unable to res occasionally until they relog.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:38 PM   #23
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Would be interesting to see if it used a reagent.

Before they fixed soul shard lag, you could sometimes summon a HS/Soulstone during soul shard lag for free. Something about not using the reagent had en effect on the timer.


Rant: I hate it when I am on my druid and I res someone on a wipe as wipe recovery and they immediately accept before I can finish typing do not accept.
 
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Old 04/05/07, 6:39 PM   #24
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I've personally not run into the bug, and I dont recall if the person was ressable or not (I assume so sense I didnt hear anything about it on vent). Resurrection bug for out of combat ressing is one thing, but on in combat res.... that is infuriating.

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Old 04/05/07, 7:03 PM   #25
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While it might not be related to that, I have noticed an issue with the timer on Ritual of Souls for warlocks, where I would begin to channel the spell, it would complete, the shard would disappear, the spell would go on cooldown but the soulwell would not appear. I've had his happen both to me and the other warlocks in my guild, in different areas(Kara, normal/heroic 5-mans).
 
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