Anyone ever seen a bug where the Rebirth cooldown resets for no reason?

• Hamlet · 04/05/07, 1:37 PM

I don't have any other info. I'm absolutely certain that one of our Druids Rebirthed someone twice with 30 mins last night.

tritus · 04/05/07, 1:48 PM

It quite definitely happened to me last night. I used it after being soulstoned, and it was back up before the warlock's soulstone timer was back up.

Fizwidget · 04/05/07, 1:49 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

I don't have any other info.

Umm.... neither do we. Without more info, say a screenshot, or even, hell what zone/encounter you were in, this thread's gonna quickly fall into the "Screenshot or it didn't happen" Hole.

Anything, Combat logs, fraps, some homeless guy who can also "swear" it happened?

diospadre · 04/05/07, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by Fizwidget

Umm.... neither do we. Without more info, say a screenshot, or even, hell what zone/encounter you were in, this thread's gonna quickly fall into the "Screenshot or it didn't happen" Hole.

This is a stupid notion that I'm pretty sick of. Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.

Fizwidget · 04/05/07, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by tritus

It quite definitely happened to me last night. I used it after being soulstoned, and it was back up before the warlock's soulstone timer was back up.

Edit: Toned down sarcasm

Does this mean you died and triggered SS before using Rebirth #2?

Again, which encounter/zone, and Ara, was the druid SS'd?

Fizwidget · 04/05/07, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by diospadre

Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.

I agree, I was not asking for irrefutable proof.

Since Ara posted that he witnessed the event, he should be able to provide us with more details to work with, other than the fact that the event occured. I laid down the sarcasm a bit heavy, perhaps.

• Hamlet · 04/05/07, 2:07 PM

At Aran, Druid A burns Rebirth right before the wipe. Definitely happened, because one party member died twice. Druid A was Soulstoned at the time, but never used it. Next attempt, Druid B uses Rebirth (I know because it was on me).
As we're running back, I ask whether Druid A has his back up (thinking he probably doesn't, but my RDX window is showing that they're both up, so I figure it's buggy). They say they both have it up. I ask whether this makes any sense. They say no. In Druid A's case, it was likely less than 30 mins, but I'm not sure. In Druid B's case, it was less than 5 minutes.
Within half an hour of that wipe, Druid B successfully uses his during an attempt.

RK · 04/05/07, 2:29 PM

Did Druid B get soulstoned for that next attempt?

• Hamlet · 04/05/07, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by RK

Did Druid B get soulstoned for that next attempt?

No.

I'll check all the details when I log in again as well.

• Falk · 04/05/07, 2:32 PM

Extremely far-out idea, but was he in an Arena team that was also having activity of any sort?

That's one instance in Blizzard's code I can think of where cooldowns are resetted, so it might be a good starting place to look.

(I know Rebirth + Arena = ???)

Never ever had that happen to me though.

Zyla · 04/05/07, 2:43 PM

Originally Posted by diospadre

This is a stupid notion that I'm pretty sick of. Not every line of discussion has to be opened with irrefutable proof.

This IS the internet, dios.

As to the issue at hand, yes, last night on nightbane our druid combat rezzed twice during the fight (9 mins). And we have no idea how or why.

• frmorrison · 04/05/07, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by falkon2

Extremely far-out idea, but was he in an Arena team that was also having activity of any sort?
That's one instance in Blizzard's code I can think of where cooldowns are resetted, so it might be a good starting place to look.
(I know Rebirth + Arena = ???)

I don't have any cooldowns longer than 15 minutes, but I thought that only cooldowns less than or equal to 15 min were reset when entering an Arena.

The interaction of SS on Rebirth could be doing something strange (like UA and Judgment of Light).

• Vinsent · 04/05/07, 2:52 PM

There is something going on with extremely long cooldowns, I know when Im randomly bging (though this might have to do with the battlegrounds) I will often have Lay on Hands finish its cooldown in diffrent matches.

For example, two nights ago I used LoH at the very end of a eye of the storm match, since I though I was going to head to bed.

A friend then convinced me to go back into the BG, when I loaded for the new match I noticed that my LoH was reset. Not more than 5 mins could have passed since I used it.

Anicdotal sure, but there is something going on.

Ataraxia · 04/05/07, 4:04 PM

One of our feral tanks used his the other night on a Hydross attempt and told us on vent he didn't even receive a cooldown... it was just ready to be used again. No, he was not soulstoned.

Dargoth · 04/05/07, 4:12 PM

I had this happen to me several months ago on Twin Emps, where I used my rebirth on consecutive attempts - I thought it strange at the time and it hasn't happened to me again since.

Eylirria · 04/05/07, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ataraxia

One of our feral tanks used his the other night on a Hydross attempt and told us on vent he didn't even receive a cooldown... it was just ready to be used again. No, he was not soulstoned.

Now that's a fun bug... Return of the combat rezzer.

Drekor · 04/05/07, 5:12 PM

My Lay on Hands frequently cooldowns in about 20 minutes in karazhan, I'll try and take SS with timestamps next time I'm in the zone. I wasn't doing any arena play and I didn't have SS's. Was rather interesting noticing my LoH was back up and my DI was still on a 40 minute cooldown... o_O

Sapp · 04/05/07, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by Drekor

My Lay on Hands frequently cooldowns in about 20 minutes in karazhan, I'll try and take SS with timestamps next time I'm in the zone. I wasn't doing any arena play and I didn't have SS's. Was rather interesting noticing my LoH was back up and my DI was still on a 40 minute cooldown... o_O

I've had this happen. During the 2.0 era it was happening a lot, roughly every time I left a BG. I've not gotten to LoH twice in one fight yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone has.

DeeNogger · 04/05/07, 6:32 PM

We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.

dukes · 04/05/07, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by DeeNogger

We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.

There's definitely something buggy with ressurections in general. Sometimes people just can't be ressed unless they exit WoW and delete their cache then log back in. Dunno what's causing it but I assume it would affect Rebirth too. Never seen the cooldown reset on rebirth though.

• Hamlet · 04/05/07, 6:36 PM

Originally Posted by DeeNogger

We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.

Could have just been the good old rez-bug. We've been getting that every now and then recently.

alienangel · 04/05/07, 6:36 PM

Originally Posted by DeeNogger

We had an issue with the rebirth animation going off, and eating the druid's cool down, but the player on the receiving end never getting the resurrection. It was on High King Maulgar this week, and mid way through the fight, so I know it wasnt just the person getting the spell ignoring it. It was very odd.

Was he ressable after the fight? There's a bug going around which makes people unable to res occasionally until they relog.

Myonax · 04/05/07, 6:38 PM

Would be interesting to see if it used a reagent.

Before they fixed soul shard lag, you could sometimes summon a HS/Soulstone during soul shard lag for free. Something about not using the reagent had en effect on the timer.

Rant: I hate it when I am on my druid and I res someone on a wipe as wipe recovery and they immediately accept before I can finish typing do not accept.

DeeNogger · 04/05/07, 6:39 PM

I've personally not run into the bug, and I dont recall if the person was ressable or not (I assume so sense I didnt hear anything about it on vent). Resurrection bug for out of combat ressing is one thing, but on in combat res.... that is infuriating.

wind · 04/05/07, 7:03 PM

While it might not be related to that, I have noticed an issue with the timer on Ritual of Souls for warlocks, where I would begin to channel the spell, it would complete, the shard would disappear, the spell would go on cooldown but the soulwell would not appear. I've had his happen both to me and the other warlocks in my guild, in different areas(Kara, normal/heroic 5-mans).