I'd like to see a breakdown of which elixirs fall under which categories. If someone with the german client wouldn't mind posting them, I'd appreciate it.

Unless they change elixers to last through death, I am underwhelmed...

Can anyone give me a reason why elixers evaporate on death? Even lasting through death, you will still need 2-3 a night (of each type) to do an entire raid, this, to me, seems like more then enough buisness for the servers alchemists, without pushing it to 15 or so a night for learning ect.

I think we can all agree Primalstrike isn't worth getting LW to 375, much less making or wearing. What stats WOULD make it exciting? With LW being the massive pain in the butt that it is (potentially less massive after the skinning change, but c'mon, farming primals for skillups sucks) it would take something like agi/stam/ap/hit/sockets to tempt me, or stam/ap/hit/crit/sockets. The Hunter/Shaman one is stam/int/ap/crit/mp5/sockets, so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Primalstrike to get MUCH better.

One band-aid to LW that would INSTANTLY make the tradeskill much more appealing? Drums of Restoration trainable. Those things just scream overpowered -- 31 mp5 / hp5 for the PARTY. The fact that the recipe is an un-farmable world drop is ridiculously asinine.

If a feral druid uses Elixir of Major Strength instead of Major Agility and its not because they have excess major strength laying around well shame on them.

Edit: and I expect warriors to use Fel Strength Elixirs unless stamina is an issue.

Elixir of Major Agility is going to be by far the most used Elixir when this goes through. Screw Onslaught and Major Strength.

This could also be the start of a new problem. Everyone is going to obviously want to best elixir possible, and for all melee, this probably means Fel Strength and lots of competition for the mats for Fel Strength. I don't want to be 'forced' into taking a less powerful elixir because its impossible to get the herbs for the best one, and im sure neither does anyone else. On the other hand, lesser is better then nothing and im sure the difference isn't THAT huge, I could potentially use Moongoose Elixirs.

To be honest, I'd consider the fel strength easier to make than major strength, just because I don't want to go back to the old world to farm mountain silversage. With an epic flying mount, herbing in The Outlands is a breeze.

I think I almost teared up a little when I read this. I already knew that blizz basically gave up on skinning, but to not even list the one change under skinning put the nail in the coffin. Skinning isn't leather working ver of disenchanting. Its a stand alone proff. Glad to see that now instead of 1 leather scrap for a 72elite I'll get 2. That totally solves the problem. /end sarcasm

Talk about emo, I'm sure it was just an oversight that they put this change under leatherworking and not skinning. I'm not sure what your beef is over the change either, the lack of increased leather at higher levels was a significant issue from my experience skinning in beta.

At this point, they should either add in something useful to skinning or simply fold it into leatherworking.

Mining raw materials feeds into both smithing and jewelcrafting, as well as providing rare materials for both.

What an interesting idea .... how much would it affect the game if skinning was a leatherworking skill, and not a standalone?

EDIT: Ziggurat beat me.