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Old 04/10/07, 10:39 AM   #1
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Loot tables redux: Karazhan

Inspired by a thread long past on these boards whereby the loot tables for most pre-Naxx raid bosses were analysed, I give you: the Kara boss loot tables, split into groups. Kara bosses uniformly continue the trend of dropping one loot from column A and one loot from column B.

Prince has the most fun breakdown. As I suspected from our first three kills, his split is weapon and not-weapon. Most of the bosses have at least a mini-pattern in the groups (e.g. Maiden and Attumen have all their bracers in one group and all their gloves in the other; Nightbane has all his BPs together; Aran has all his boots together), which seems to be a change of philosophy from the more random groupings we saw in the past. The only things I recall them lining up before was weapons (e.g. Lok'amir & Crul'shorukh in one group of Nef's table and SotSF & Ashkandhi in the other).

If I've accidentally mucked something up, please let me know.


Attumen:
Group A:
Bracers of the White Stag
Steelhawk Crossbow
Whirlwind Bracers
Stalker's War Bands
Vambraces of Courage
Harbinger Bands

Group B:
Gauntlets of Renewed Hope
Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation
Worgen Claw Necklace
Handwraps of Flowing Thought
Gloves of Saintly Blessings
Spectral Band of Innervation

Moroes:
Group A:
Royal Cloak of Arathi Kings
Brooch of Unquenchable Fury
Edgewalker Longboots
Emerald Ripper
Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
Signet of Unshakeable Faith

Group B:
Idol of the Avian Heart
Boots of Valiance
Shadow Cloak of Dalaran
Nethershard Girdle
Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable
Belt of Gale Force


MoV:
Group A:
Bracers of Justice
Bands of Nefarious Deeds
Bands of Indwelling
Bracers of Maliciousness
Barbed Choker of Discipline
Boots of Foretelling

Group B:
Gloves of Quickening
Shard of the Virtuous
Mitts of the Treemender
Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden
Totem of Healing Rains
Gloves of Centering

Opera is one from the shared pool, one from the unique loot pool for that encounter (nothing illustrates this as much as the R+J loot). Curator is tier 4 glove token + other.


Illhoof
Group A:
Mender's Heart Ring
The Lightning Capacitor
Terrestian's Stranglestaff
Xavian Stiletto
Gilded Thorium Cloak
Breastplate of the Lifebinder

Group B:
Fool's Bane
Cincture of Will
Cord of Nature's Sustenance
Girdle of the Prowler
Malefic Girdle
Shadowvine Cloak of Infusion

Aran:
Group A:
Saberclaw Talisman
Shermanar Great-Ring
Aran's Soothing Sapphire
Mantle of the Mindflayer
Pendant of the Violet Eye
Tirisfal Wand of Ascendancy


Group B:
Steelspine Faceguard
Rapscallion Boots
Boots of the Incorrupt
Boots of the Infernal Coven
Drape of the Dark Reavers
Pauldrons of the Justice Seeker

Netherspite:
Group A:
Spiteblade
Jewel of Infinite Possibilities
Shining Chain of the Afterworld
Girdle of Truth
Cowl of Defiance
Mithril Band of the Unscarred

Group B:
Uni-Mind Headdress
Pantaloons of Repentence
Rip-Flayer Leggings
Earthblood Chestplate
Skulker's Greaves
Mantle of Abrahmis

Prince: Tier 4 helm token +
Group A:
Stainless Cloak of the Pure-Hearted
Adornment of Stolen Souls
Jade Ring of the Everliving
Farstrider Wildercloak
Ruby Drape of the Mysticant
Ring of a Thousand Marks

Group B:
Gorehowl
Nathrezim Mindblade
The Decapitator
Malchazeen
Light's Justice
Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix

Nightbane:
Group A:
Shield of Impenetrable Darkness
Nightstaff of the Everliving
Emberspur Talisman
Ironstriders of Urgency
Ferocious Swift Kickers
Dragonheart Flame-Shield

Group B:
Chestguard of the Conniver
Scaled Breatplate of Carnage
Talisman of Nightbane
Stonebough Jerkin
Robe of the Elder Scribe
Panzar'Thar Breastplate


Chess Chest:
Group A:
Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless
Battlescar Boots
King's Defender
Girdle of Treachery
Mithril Chain of Heroism
Fiend Slayer Boots

Group B:
Heart-Flame Leggings
Forestlord Striders
Headdress of the High Potentate
Ring of Recurrence
Triptych Shield of Ancients
Legplates of the Innocent

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Old 04/10/07, 11:18 AM   #2
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Good information, thanks!

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Old 04/10/07, 11:48 AM   #3
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Old 04/10/07, 11:55 AM   #4
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Headdress of the High Potentate
Ring of Recurrence

Our group 1 got those two from the chest last week.

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Old 04/10/07, 12:15 PM   #5
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Attumen:
Group A:
Bracers of the White Stag
Steelhawk Crossbow
Whirlwind Bracers
Stalker's War Bands
Vambraces of Courage
Harbinger Bands

Group B:
Gauntlets of Renewed Hope
Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation
Worgen Claw Necklace
Handwraps of Flowing Thought
Gloves of Saintly Blessings
Spectral Band of Innervation

Moroes:
Group A:
Royal Cloak of Arathi Kings
Brooch of Unquenchable Fury
Edgewalker Longboots
Emerald Ripper
Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
Signet of Unshakeable Faith

Group B:
Idol of the Avian Heart
Boots of Valiance
Shadow Cloak of Dalaran
Nethershard Girdle
Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable
Belt of Gale Force


MoV:
Group A:
Bracers of Justice
Bands of Nefarious Deeds
Bands of Indwelling
Bracers of Maliciousness
Barbed Choker of Discipline
Boots of Foretelling

Group B:
Gloves of Quickening
Shard of the Virtuous
Mitts of the Treemender
Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden
Totem of Healing Rains
Gloves of Centering

Opera is one from the shared pool, one from the unique loot pool for that encounter (nothing illustrates this as much as the R+J loot). Curator is tier 4 glove token + other.


Illhoof
Group A:
Mender's Heart Ring
The Lightning Capacitor
Terrestian's Stranglestaff
Xavian Stiletto
Gilded Thorium Cloak
Breastplate of the Lifebinder

Group B:
Fool's Bane
Cincture of Will
Cord of Nature's Sustenance
Girdle of the Prowler
Malefic Girdle
Shadowvine Cloak of Infusion

Aran:
Group A:
Saberclaw Talisman
Shermanar Great-Ring
Aran's Soothing Sapphire
Mantle of the Mindflayer
Pendant of the Violet Eye
Tirisfal Wand of Ascendancy


Group B:
Steelspine Faceguard
Rapscallion Boots
Boots of the Incorrupt
Boots of the Infernal Coven
Drape of the Dark Reavers
Pauldrons of the Justice Seeker

Netherspite:
Group A:
Spiteblade
Jewel of Infinite Possibilities
Shining Chain of the Afterworld
Girdle of Truth
Cowl of Defiance
Mithril Band of the Unscarred

Group B:
Uni-Mind Headdress
Pantaloons of Repentence
Rip-Flayer Leggings
Earthblood Chestplate
Skulker's Greaves
Mantle of Abrahmis

Prince: Tier 4 helm token +
Group A:
Stainless Cloak of the Pure-Hearted
Adornment of Stolen Souls
Jade Ring of the Everliving
Farstrider Wildercloak
Ruby Drape of the Mysticant
Ring of a Thousand Marks

Group B:
Gorehowl
Nathrezim Mindblade
The Decapitator
Malchazeen
Light's Justice
Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix

Nightbane:
Group A:
Shield of Impenetrable Darkness
Nightstaff of the Everliving
Emberspur Talisman
Ironstriders of Urgency
Ferocious Swift Kickers
Dragonheart Flame-Shield

Group B:
Chestguard of the Conniver
Scaled Breatplate of Carnage
Talisman of Nightbane
Stonebough Jerkin
Robe of the Elder Scribe
Panzar'Thar Breastplate


Chess Chest:
Group A:
Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless
Battlescar Boots
King's Defender
Girdle of Treachery
Mithril Chain of Heroism
Fiend Slayer Boots

Group B:
Heart-Flame Leggings
Forestlord Striders
Headdress of the High Potentate
Ring of Recurrence
Triptych Shield of Ancients
Legplates of the Innocent


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Old 04/10/07, 6:40 PM   #6
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Awesome thanks. This explains why chess loot is so frustrating - the 2 items I want from it are both in Group A, and King's Defender keeps dropping every time instead :S

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Old 04/10/07, 6:58 PM   #7
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You seem to have left out the Opera and Curator Tables.

Also, if you could bold the names of the bosses, it'd make it a little easier to navigate.

Thanks a lot for this.

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Old 04/10/07, 7:21 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Axanor View Post
You seem to have left out the Opera and Curator Tables.

Also, if you could bold the names of the bosses, it'd make it a little easier to navigate.

Thanks a lot for this.
Opera is one from the shared pool, one from the unique loot pool for that encounter (nothing illustrates this as much as the R+J loot). Curator is tier 4 glove token + other.


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Old 04/10/07, 7:41 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by boomix View Post
Headdress of the High Potentate
Ring of Recurrence

Our group 1 got those two from the chest last week.
I hate to do this, but DKP linkage or it didn't happen. I had a ton of data for the Chess Event, it was the 2nd table completed after Moroes, and just pulling up a few random DKP entries from random guild sites (ones I didn't already use, in case I got fed bad data earlier) confirms to me that ring and headdress are not in the same group.

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Old 06/14/07, 6:30 PM   #10
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Not sure what the policy is on EJ about bumping old threads, but there is a big difference here between these tables and the old tables from the previous thread -- the old tables had percentages associated with them.

For most bosses, there were either 5 items on the list (at 20% chance each) or 5 items (4 at 20%, 2 at 10%). Is all the Kara loot 16.6% chance, or is it like the tables of old, with 4 items at 20% and 2 at 10% (and if so, which 4?).

Thanks!

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Old 06/15/07, 10:56 AM   #11
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Used three different DKP sites to make these, let me know if you find any mistakes. High King Maulgar, Fathom-Lord Karathress, Leotheras the Blind and Void Reaver aren't listed because they only drop two tokens and one extra item.

Gruul the Dragonkiller

Group A:
Collar of Cho'gall
Teeth of Gruul
Eye of Gruul
Bloodmaw Magus-Blade
Cowl of Nature's Breath
Windshear Boots

Group B:
Gauntlets of the Dragonslayer
Axe of the Gronn Lords
Gronn-Stitched Girdle
Dragonspine Trophy
Shuriken of Negation
Gauntlets of Martial Perfection
Aldori Legacy Defender

Magtheridon

Group A:
Crystalheart Pulse-Staff
Eye of Magtheridon
Eredar Wand of Obliteration
Karaborian Talisman
Soul-Eater's Handwraps
Aegis of the Vindicator

Group B:
Glaive of the Pit
Terror Pit Girdle
Cloak of the Pit Stalker
Liar's Tongue Gloves
Thundering Greathelm
Girdle of the Endless Pit

Serpentshrine Cavern

Hydross the Unstable

Group A:
Brighthelm of Justice
Fathomstone
Blackfathom Warbands
Boots of the Shifting Nightmare
Living Root of the Wildheart
Wraps of Purification

Group B:
Robe of Hateful Echoes
Shoulderpads of the Stranger
Ranger-General's Chestguard
Scarab of Displacement
Ring of Lethality
Pauldrons of the Wardancer

Morogrim Tidewalker

Group A:
Illidari Shoulderpads
Pendant of the Lost Ages
Serpent-Coil Braid
Luminescent Rod of the Naaru
Girdle of the Tidal Call
Gnarled Chestpiece of the Ancients

Group B:
Talon of Azshara
Ring of Sundered Souls
Mantle of the Tireless Tracker
Pauldrons of the Argent Sentinel
Warboots of Obliteration
Razor-Scale Battlecloak

The Lurker Below

Group A:
Mallet of the Tides
Choker of Animalistic Fury
Boots of Effortless Striking
Bracers of Eradication
Ancestral Ring of Conquest
Grove-Bands of Remulos

Group B:
Tempest-Strider Boots
Libram of Absolute Truth
Velvet Boots of the Guardian
Earring of Soulful Meditation
Glowing Breastplate of Truth
Cord of Screaming Terrors

Lady Vashj

Group A:
Coral Band of the Revived
Lightfathom Scepter
Glorious Gauntlets of Crestfall
Ring of Endless Coils
Vestments of the Sea-Witch
Runetotem's Mantle

Group B:
Serpent Spine Longbow
Prism of Inner Calm
Fang of Vashj
Krakken-Heart Breastplate
Belt of One-Hundred Deaths
Cobra-Lash Boots

The Eye

Al'ar

Group A:
Mindstorm Wristbands
Fire Crest Breastplate
Band of Al'ar
Talisman of the Sun King
Tome of Fiery Redemption
Phoenix-Ring of Rebirth

Group B:
Talon of Al'ar
Phoenix-Wing Cloak
Arcanite Steam-Pistol
Netherbane
Gloves of the Searing Grip
Talon of the Phoenix
Claw of the Phoenix --- Not sure about this, I'd assume it's in this group.

High Astromancer Solarian

Group A:
Star-Soul Breeches
Ethereum Life-Staff
Boots of the Resilient
Worldstorm Gauntlets
Void Star Talisman
Trousers of the Astromancer
Wand of the Forgotten Star

Group B:
Star-Strider Boots
Heartrazor
Girdle of the Righteous Path
Solarian's Sapphire
Greaves of the Bloodwarder
Vambraces of Ending

Last edited by lolz : 06/16/07 at 9:45 AM. Reason: Added Solarian & Al'ar.

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Old 06/15/07, 12:50 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by thaen View Post
For most bosses, there were either 5 items on the list (at 20% chance each) or 5 items (4 at 20%, 2 at 10%). Is all the Kara loot 16.6% chance, or is it like the tables of old, with 4 items at 20% and 2 at 10% (and if so, which 4?).
Looking at Netherspite's listing at WoWHead, I'm lead to believe that at least some bosses have at least some truly "rare" drops (roughly 1/2 the drop rate of the other items on that table?). Most of his items drop fairly equally, while at least one item has a very significantly lower noted drop rate.

So aside from annecdotal "My guild has cleared Karazhan X times in Y months, and we've only seen 1" (which is true), WoWHead seems to support my theory.

That said, WoWHead also lists the Dragonspine Trophy as Gruul's highest drop by a small amount, thus leading me to believe that it is as common as anything else, though we've yet to see one (which isn't surprising of course, as I do understand the concept of things being random. Frustrating, but not surprising)

Last edited by Forar : 06/15/07 at 12:52 PM. Reason: Further Gruul pondering

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Old 06/15/07, 2:20 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by lolz View Post
Gruul the Dragonkiller
Group A:
Collar of Cho'gall
Teeth of Gruul
Eye of Gruul
Bloodmaw Magus-Blade
Cowl of Nature's Breath
Windshear Boots
Aldori Legacy Defender

Group B:
Gauntlets of the Dragonslayer
Axe of the Gronn Lords
Gronn-Stitched Girdle
Dragonspine Trophy
Shuriken of Negation
Gauntlets of Martial Perfection
My guild had Teeth of Gruul and Aldori Legacy Defender drop last night on one kill. (http://www.eoi-guild.com/dkpbc/listitems.php?p=history)

Last edited by Ashnod : 06/15/07 at 2:21 PM. Reason: Clarity

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Old 06/15/07, 2:57 PM   #14
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Thanks, accidentally added it to the wrong group. Corrected now.

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Old 06/15/07, 3:04 PM   #15
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Great post, I look forward to seeing this sort of breakdown for all the future stuff!

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Old 06/15/07, 9:58 PM   #16
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We've had Farstrider Wildercloak and Jade Ring of the Everliving drop on the same kill

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Old 06/16/07, 9:17 PM   #17
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Have you had any luck on Kael'thas yet? You said why Void Reaver isn't there...do you need more information before you can do Kael's table?

He drops two epics, two set items, and a Verdant Sphere, if I recall correctly.

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Old 06/17/07, 4:41 AM   #18
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Why do people keep bumping this thread?

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