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Old 05/20/07, 7:49 PM   #226
Tzan
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
You'd think instead of making this whole cauldron system they could just not make any gimmick resistance gear check fights. What's fun or skillful about having to carry a bunch of resist gear to an instance which is only useful for probably one boss out of ten?
I think the addition of Cauldrons is actually more related to the change in Healing pots. In many resistance fights, it's better to pop a resistance pot than it is to use a healing potion. With Healing potions being harder to make due to using Nether Bloom, the addition of simple and plentiful resistance potions will help ease the loss of cheap and easy to get Healing pots.

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Old 05/21/07, 5:19 AM   #227
songster
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Originally Posted by Spiry View Post
That may be, but before fights you could spend the "talking and buffing" period taking the protection potions, then cooldowns are up for mana/health/ironshield with 55~ mins left on protection buffs.

With the 2min duration, it's no longer spossible.
Great! One less potion you have to use during the fight! Rejoice!

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Old 05/23/07, 1:34 AM   #228
Yessia
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Just because it was a nice sample size I thought I'd post my results of my massive creation load tonight in attempts of discovery. I am a potion master.

101 Fel Mana Potions - got 116 total with procs.

No discovery.

206 Super Healing Potions - got 239 total with procs.

On the 163'rd Health pot I discovered Mighty Restoration(Yay lucky me getting the one I really wanted the most first ).

228 Super Mana Potions - got 259 total with procs.

On the 33'rd Mana pot I discovered Super Rejuvenation Potion.


So 535 potions made and 2 flasks discovered. Proc rate for mastery seems to be about the same as well.

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Old 05/23/07, 10:50 AM   #229
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I made about 50 pots before I also discovered super rejuv potion, I have probably made about 150 so far and thats the only discovery though.

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Old 05/23/07, 10:54 AM   #230
Nite_Moogle
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I had a little over a hundred super mana pots made with no discoveries, but the proc rate was consistent with pre-patch.

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Old 05/23/07, 11:18 AM   #231
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle View Post
I had a little over a hundred super mana pots made with no discoveries, but the proc rate was consistent with pre-patch.
A friend of mine just made me 255 super mana pots and got 3 flask discoveries.

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Old 05/23/07, 11:25 AM   #232
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I made 150 pots, nothing, some people made 20, and got discoveries, good ones too :|

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Old 05/23/07, 11:39 AM   #233
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My girlfriend was making pots when dude standing next to her got 2 flasks in a row. Flasks of Relentless Assault and Fortification. I have no data as to how many he made in total. She only got Super Rejuvenation on 2nd potion she made.

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Old 05/23/07, 11:45 AM   #234
Nathariel
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I got a Transmute: Primal Mana to Primal Fire from the earth to water I made today. Quite a few guildmates made discoveries as well.

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Old 05/23/07, 11:58 AM   #235
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Originally Posted by Saroz View Post
I made 150 pots, nothing, some people made 20, and got discoveries, good ones too :|
Made 22 shadow power elixirs and got a shadow prot flask discovery. Go figure, heh.

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Old 05/23/07, 12:03 PM   #236
Cesar2000
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I've made a buttload of elixirs/pots/flasks (will count up soon) and got 4 discoveries so far. Didnt get my first one until around 500.

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Old 05/23/07, 12:57 PM   #237
Dryw
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I've made 170 Super Mana Potions(235 with procs) and discovered 3 Flasks.
first after ~100 potions and then 2 in a row at 143

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Old 05/23/07, 1:00 PM   #238
Darkchani
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went potion spec,
364 super mana made 430, no discovery
7 batches of shadow protection potion for cauldron of shadow protection
2 batches of arcane, nature and frost for the respective cauldrons

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Old 05/23/07, 1:57 PM   #239
Cesar2000
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Those interested in proc rates, I got a lot of data now :P

In total 2616 combines today- all elixirs/flasks as elixir master, all potions as potion master. Grand total 3171 made, giving me 21.2% extra.

I had every single discovery made within the first 1500 or so. (had none previously)

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Old 05/27/07, 6:51 AM   #240
Midnight
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What I´d like to know and haven´t found answered anywhere on the boards yet - does the type of discovery for flasks depend on what you create? Like can Relentless Assault Flask only be discovered via Onslaught or Fel Strength elixirs (just to give a hypothetical example).
Also is the chance for a discovery equal for all kinds of alchemy consumables or does creating a flask grant a bigger chance to discover another flask than an elixir?

To help answering this question maybe everyone can say what flask he or she learned creating what potion/elixir/flask.

I´ll start by saying I learned Flask of Fortification by creating Elixir of Major Strength.

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Old 05/27/07, 11:59 AM   #241
Darkchani
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I'm pretty sure we found out a while ago that it was unrelated for the flasks and super rejuv potion.

Myself pre-2.1 i got mighty resto while making str elixir

the cauldrons on the other hand are definitly related to their respective major x protection potion, and the proc rate is significantly higher

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Old 05/27/07, 1:48 PM   #242
Russta
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Here is what I learned from what;

Flask of Mighty Restoration - Super Mana Potion (pre-patch)
Flask of Relentless Assault - Super Mana Potion (pre-patch)
Flask of Fortification - Super Mana Potion
Flask of Shadow Fortification - Flask of Relentless Assault
Flask of Arcane Fortification - Flask of Relentless Assault
Super Rejuvanation Potion - Flask of Relentless Assault

THERE IS CLEARLY A CORRELATION!

Actually, I don't think for a second there is, even if you could draw one. As has already been stated here, what you learn from what you're making seems entirely random. That I learned absolutely everything from Super Mana Potions and Flasks of Relentless Assault shouldn't be read into simply because I heavily used the former to make gold, the latter to keep my guild's raid heart beating pre-patch.

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Old 05/29/07, 11:30 PM   #243
 Psykal
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Turalyon (EU)
Originally Posted by Russta View Post
Flask of Shadow Fortification - Flask of Relentless Assault
Flask of Arcane Fortification - Flask of Relentless Assault
Super Rejuvanation Potion - Flask of Relentless Assault
How many Flasks of Relentless Assault did you make? Just wondering if the discovery chance is higher from a flask than a potion or elixir. I discovered Flask of Relentless Assault after 5 or 6 Flasks of Mighty Restoration.

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Old 05/30/07, 12:09 AM   #244
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It's pretty abysmal from pots as well.
I've made thousands (literally) and had zero discoveries.

Stands to reason that the chance of discovery would be related to the frequency of using said pot/elixir/flask/transmute


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Old 05/30/07, 2:25 AM   #245
Russta
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Originally Posted by Psykal View Post
How many Flasks of Relentless Assault did you make? Just wondering if the discovery chance is higher from a flask than a potion or elixir. I discovered Flask of Relentless Assault after 5 or 6 Flasks of Mighty Restoration.
This many.

I had 1509 herbs on an alt (I know it was that many because a GM slapped me on the wrist for using the mailbox as a second bank when I called wondering where my 14 Solid Star of Elune's were after I got T5 shoulders) and the guy that screenshot is from had over 2000 waiting for me to craft on the day 2.1 hit.

Suffice to say I learned everything I didn't already have on the first day.

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Old 05/30/07, 7:58 AM   #246
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So far I have made 240 super mana pots, 60 onslaught, 80 draenic wisdom, and 80 super healing power - 0 discoveries.

As a matter of fact, I have had 0 discoveries since TBC and I have been at max alchemy for a while now.

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Old 05/30/07, 9:25 AM   #247
muwatallis
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Just before the 2.1, my alchemy skill hit 375 by making Major Dreamless Sleep Potions. Once it hit 375, i started to make Elixir of Major Agility without a specific alchemy mastery taken. And on my just second Elixir of Major Agility, i discovered Flask of Arcane Fortification.

Nothing else until today tho.

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Old 05/30/07, 9:43 AM   #248
Teewee
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Originally Posted by Torelorm View Post
As a matter of fact, I have had 0 discoveries since TBC and I have been at max alchemy for a while now.
Right there with you buddy

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Old 05/30/07, 11:19 AM   #249
Starbucks
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Yesterday I discovered Primal Earth -> Life. My first and only discovery and it converts something abundent into something equally abundent.

Oh well, at least I made 20G off the Earth -> Water I did to discover it

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Old 05/30/07, 11:22 AM   #250
Nite_Moogle
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Has anyone else noticed that the supposed improvement of Fel Lotus drop rate is rather non-existent? I've gotten exactly zero since the patch with a couple hundred herb nodes harvested.

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