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Old 04/13/07, 10:28 PM   #1
Lybydose
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Ethereum Prison Information

Here's what I've found out so far:

Short Version: Get a million keys, summon 5 man outdoor bosses for drop, use drop to summon new Mana-Tombs boss

Long Version:

Requires Honored (or Revered?)

1. Ethereal guy sends you off to find a prison key. The key is a fairly rare drop from any ethereal near Manaforge Ultris. This item can be looted by everyone in the party
2. Ethereal guy sends you off to get another key and open a prison. Opening the prison will spawn a 70 non-elite that drops a green and an ID card. The ID card is required to complete the quest, but only drops for 1 person (so you have to do this 5 times).
2.5. You can continue turning in ID cards for more rep, but this requires more keys.
3. Ethereal guy sends you off to get 5 keys. It took at least an 1.5 hours of actual played time (not counting the frequent server crashes) just to get 5 for myself. To key an entire group would take substantially longer (there aren't enough mobs in the area to support 5 people anyway). These keys also drop from the Bash'ir Ethereals in Blade's Edge, where there are far more mobs to kill, but the drop rate is still pretty bad.
4. The keys combine to form another key that opens a prison in the upper portions of Blade's Edge Mountains. Opening this prison unleashes a Gronn lord. The quest recommends 5 people, but this guy can be snared, feared, everything, and you can easily 2-man kite him. He occasionally uses a ranged daze and "knock-up", so you probably can't solo him unless you're a warlock chain fearing.
5. Turning in the quest item that drops off the gronn lord unlocks the ability to get an additional 5 keys to summon more "bosses." It also unlocks a quest to obtain a Mark of the Nexus-King, which is supposedly a non-guaranteed drop off of any of the "bosses."
6. Quest text says the mark will allow you to open a statis cell in Mana-Tombs, probably resulting in a new boss in Heroic mode and new loot, haven't gotten this far due to the sheer number of keys this would require.

The Gronn lord "boss" did not drop any loot other than his quest item, but it's possible further summoned "bosses" will drop guaranteed greens/blues.

In addition, there is an altar in the Bash'ir landing area where you can trade Apexis Shards for flasks. The Apexis Shards are a fairly common drop off any of the Ethereals in the area.




Apparently there are more flask types for different "of the..." item types.

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Old 04/13/07, 10:41 PM   #2
subbawt
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The description sounds awfully similar to the Abyssal Council stuff in Silithus, which was actually pretty well designed casual content once they retuned the Abyssal Lords.

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Old 04/13/07, 10:54 PM   #3
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I like the "Gruul's Lair" bit of that unstable flask description. I like that a lot.

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Old 04/13/07, 11:12 PM   #4
Vlad3
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For some reason I enjoyed the silithus quest when I was doing it with 2-3 other guildies. Killing stuff getting pages and the items to summon elites. Sure the rewards were very interesting but it was still a fun thing to do for awhile.

This time it looks like you can get flasks that will help you in raiding content.

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Old 04/13/07, 11:16 PM   #5
Natrozim
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Originally Posted by Vlad3 View Post
For some reason I enjoyed the silithus quest when I was doing it with 2-3 other guildies. Killing stuff getting pages and the items to summon elites. Sure the rewards were very interesting but it was still a fun thing to do for awhile.

This time it looks like you can get flasks that will help you in raiding content.
I enjyoed silithus also, it felt like you were doing a lot of goals at the same time grinding/questing in there, they had a high drop rate of runecloth for bandages, good drop rate on hp/mana pots, texts which sold for 1g when I was exalted + green set parts which summoned templars. I would love a similar area with good rewards

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Old 04/13/07, 11:56 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Lybydose View Post
To key an entire group would take substantially longer (there aren't enough mobs in the area to support 5 people anyway).
Sounds fun.

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Old 04/14/07, 3:43 AM   #7
sovelis41
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Are there other versions of the flask (I assume there is but just want to see that stats! )

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Old 04/14/07, 3:55 AM   #8
Lybydose
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Originally Posted by sovelis41 View Post
Are there other versions of the flask (I assume there is but just want to see that stats! )
Copied this from MMO-Champion:

Unstable Flask of the Bandit +20 Agi +40 AP +30 Sta
Unstable Flask of the Beasts +20 Agi +20 Str +30 Sta
Unstable Flask of the Elder +20 Int +8 MP5 +30 Sta
Unstable Flask of the Physician +20 Int +44 Healing +30 Sta
Unstable Flask of the Soldier +20 Crit Rating +20 Str +30 Sta
Unstable Flask of the Sorcerer +20 Int +23 Spl Dmg +30 Sta

I'm not sure how to get the other types, but I assume it's the same, just a different altar.

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Old 04/14/07, 4:35 AM   #9
Stormheart
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Those flasks are quite underwhelming, but hopefully the SSC/TK ones are a bit better. Anyone have stats?

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Old 04/14/07, 4:40 AM   #10
Thelyna
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The flasks are *meant* to be underwhelming. Flasks are no longer gamebreakingly powerful.

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Old 04/14/07, 4:46 AM   #11
Axanor
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Originally Posted by Stormheart View Post
Those flasks are quite underwhelming, but hopefully the SSC/TK ones are a bit better. Anyone have stats?
I think you've missed the point of the Flask renovation. It's nice to see that they tailored them towards the Gruul encounter a bit by adding the extra HP.

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Old 04/14/07, 5:12 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Stormheart View Post
Those flasks are quite underwhelming, but hopefully the SSC/TK ones are a bit better. Anyone have stats?
I thought it was pretty neat in a relative sense.

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Old 04/14/07, 5:25 AM   #13
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What is the stats on the new Flask of Supreme Power? I've only seen the stats for the new Flask of Mighty Restoration.

I write things The word of DeeNogger -- New Blog Post Oct 2012!!

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Old 04/14/07, 5:26 AM   #14
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Crazy idea, but perhaps the thread titled "new flask stats" would be a good read for a few of the posters here

New Flask Stats

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Old 04/15/07, 5:28 AM   #15
HaklePrime
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I've been poking at this a bit more.

I apologize in advance if I miss any steps required along the way, as far as reputation goes. I am exalted, and I'm not sure if there are certain repeatable quests I didn't notice.

So, a few things.

1) The keys that drop from the Ethereals in Netherstorm have a very low drop rate.

2) Every Ethereal Spawn point, except for the guards surrounding the Nexus Prince, and possibly the other stationary ones in the proving grounds, have a chance to spawn an "Ethereal Jailor" instead. The Jailors have a 100% drop rate of the keys. Considering you need 5 to summon the baddies in BEM, they are amazing for saving time.

3) The bosses summoned in Bash'ir, after the Gronn one, are all equally CC-able. I've fought an Eredar-Lord so far, and a Pit-Lord


4) I'm not so good at eyeing the blues, as far as iLvl evaluation goes, but they seem to be close to ilvl100 or so. I'm probably completely wrong, and would appreciate it if somone smarter than me could math it out A few examples:



5) Killed 4 of the Bash'ir mobs, no quest drop yet /sigh

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