I do what Olon97 said and jsut zoom out. The doomguard is just big, no way to get around it.
It also helps for when you are the assasin as she has a big model also, and being able to see much of the field helps for the eye/dog fights and Shartuul himself.
I apologize if this is old news, but I saw a hunter use wing clip and scorpid sting on bosses. Although I can't test the range of applicable debuffs until I actually get another darkrune, percentage based debuffs such as curse of elements and thunder clap could be useful.
A guildie had a pocket mage stack Scorches to help him clear the third stage faster. I imagine other pocket classes would help too. I wouldn't do it myself, though; I like the idea that it's an epic solo event.
I'd like to solo it eventually, but for my next couple of darkrunes I'm going to cheese it with a couple of guildies to try and get a badge.
I watched some allies do it the other day - warlocks dominate. You can cast from inside the transporter when the eyes come up to stay safe. The fire damage debuff you put on the boss works with immolate - it ticks in the 20k range. The scorch debuff would be pretty good, but scorch spam taking advantage of the debuff is probably the real key.
A guildie had a pocket mage stack Scorches to help him clear the third stage faster. I imagine other pocket classes would help too. I wouldn't do it myself, though; I like the idea that it's an epic solo event.
Warning! 90k fireball crits will get you aggro and a swift death I died twice from aggro helping a friend out ...
Frost Nova cheeses the Terrorguard part, and Frostbolt slowing helpst against the doggy boss.
One particularly cheesy glitch is that if a player gets aggro on the fel cannons in the terrorguard sequence, then moves out of melee range, the cannons will just stare at the player and do absolutely nothing. (If they're in melee range, the cannons will, inexplicably, melee.) It's possible for one person to run around and aggro all four cannon spawns if they come up, thereby completely neutralizing the fel cannons and trivializing that sequence. (Which is, honestly, the hardest.)
As mentioned, Flame Buffet affects the damage done by players' fire spells (almost certainly unintended) and %-based modifiers help speed the events up tremendously.
Still, though, once you get the hang of the terrorguard sequence, the whole event isn't terribly hard and there's not much point in having others helping you.
Oh, by the way, probably the single most valuable thing to have is a Hunter/Warrior. Aggro the fel cannons to neutralize the terrorguard sequence, then spam wing clip/hamstring on the dog to make that a joke as well. That's borderline exploit, though, in my opinion, and I would expect it to get changed.
I finally got another Darkrune after 11 days straight of Apexis shards and Depleted Crystal Focus, so I went to start up the event. All was normal and fine until I took the shield to 0%, Shartuul did said that he was releasing the demon but he never came. The first 'boss' just sat there inside of the transporter in its banished form. I tried fearing/WWing near it... No luck.
Sent in a ticket not expecting much, and of course that is what I received. They are aware of the issue, they are sorry for the inconvenience, they cannot reimburse any items, read the upcoming patch notes to see if it is fixed.
Anyone have any idea what is causing the event to bug out like that to avoid it until it is patched? The only thing I can think of is that I killed every mob before he was released, but I don't think that is it since it's pretty common from to take out every mob from 1 charge.
I did that solo event 4 or 5 times, in phase 1 and 2 I try healing using the focus crystals but nothing happens. Is that normal cant you use it vs the demons ?
You can't use the Crystal Focus' out of your bags, the demons have abilities that consume Crystal Focus and it takes them out of your bags.
For example, the first demon has an ability that heals him and on the tooltip it says "This ability consumes 1 Charged Crystalfocus" (I don't remember the ability name, but I believe it has the same icon as deathwish and it is the last ability on the toolbar)
I finally got another Darkrune after 11 days straight of Apexis shards and Depleted Crystal Focus, so I went to start up the event. All was normal and fine until I took the shield to 0%, Shartuul did said that he was releasing the demon but he never came. The first 'boss' just sat there inside of the transporter in its banished form. I tried fearing/WWing near it... No luck.
I had something similar. When I got the shield down, the next boss came out ok, but then after I had got him to where he should die, he just constantly drained my demon's HPS until I died. I was on I dunno, around 60% health when he was on 1%, but he just wouldn't go down.
Got another Darkrune today. Bugged the same as last time.
Pretty annoying, all the mobs were dead again. Next time I'll wait for the next wave to come before I throw the last hammer to break the sheild. Only other thing I can think of is that I've beat it before and that is some how bugging it out. Either that or something completely unrelated or loosely related to the event.
I had something similar. When I got the shield down, the next boss came out ok, but then after I had got him to where he should die, he just constantly drained my demon's HPS until I died. I was on I dunno, around 60% health when he was on 1%, but he just wouldn't go down.
The draining is normal, controls are supposed to switch to the new demon when this happens though.
I did that solo event 4 or 5 times, in phase 1 and 2 I try healing using the focus crystals but nothing happens. Is that normal cant you use it vs the demons ?
If you mean that you tried to heal with the far-right ability on the pet bar: that ability drains life from nearby enemies. It's not just a heal. You have to be standing near some demons or the boss to get any life back from that ability.
I had something similar. When I got the shield down, the next boss came out ok, but then after I had got him to where he should die, he just constantly drained my demon's HPS until I died. I was on I dunno, around 60% health when he was on 1%, but he just wouldn't go down.
Best bet is to wait till he has used his fel flames ability before killing him, from what I've noticed is if you kill him while using that ability he just keeps on using it until you die.
For those interested, I put together a Strategic Walkthrough movie of this event in it's entirety, which is basically a full-length recording of the event with scrolling tips and information on the bottom to explain what I'm doing and why.
It's a pretty long fight (30 mins) and thus a large download, but for anyone having trouble or looking to increase their chances, I suggest taking a look.
For those interested, I put together a Strategic Walkthrough movie of this event in it's entirety, which is basically a full-length recording of the event with scrolling tips and information on the bottom to explain what I'm doing and why.
It's a pretty long fight (30 mins) and thus a large download, but for anyone having trouble or looking to increase their chances, I suggest taking a look.
My editing skills are lacking, so pardon that for me please.
This movie was extremely helpful.
A couple of questions though:
1) I was under the assumption that he doesnt cast Incinerate unless you are affected by Immolate. In the movie, were you only ice blocking to prevent Incinerate damage or to prevent Immolate applications? I wasnt able to follow your UI as well.
2) For Shivan Boss 2, the Demon Doggie, why not just stay completely in Flame Form? I havent yet made it to this phase yet (died last time to the Shivan as the Doomguard), but it seems like running around cleasning the DoT and pyroing seems better than worrying about Siphon Life.
3) For Shartuul himself, it didnt look like his shadowbolt damage thingies (technical term btw) were doing a lot of damage to you. Was I just seeing things? Seems pretty easy if you just need to switch to Shadow to Bolt, then Siphon, then switch back.
2) For Shivan Boss 2, the Demon Doggie, why not just stay completely in Flame Form? I havent yet made it to this phase yet (died last time to the Shivan as the Doomguard), but it seems like running around cleasning the DoT and pyroing seems better than worrying about Siphon Life.
The demon doggy is trivial, so use him to get to full life before Shartuul.
3) For Shartuul himself, it didnt look like his shadowbolt damage thingies (technical term btw) were doing a lot of damage to you. Was I just seeing things? Seems pretty easy if you just need to switch to Shadow to Bolt, then Siphon, then switch back.
His Shadowbolts don't do much damage - not sure about the eyes, since I've never done an attempt with them unbugged. Shartuul's only abilities that really hurt are shadowbolts with the +damage debuff and immolate/incinerate.
1) I was under the assumption that he doesnt cast Incinerate unless you are affected by Immolate. In the movie, were you only ice blocking to prevent Incinerate damage or to prevent Immolate applications? I wasnt able to follow your UI as well.
2) For Shivan Boss 2, the Demon Doggie, why not just stay completely in Flame Form? I havent yet made it to this phase yet (died last time to the Shivan as the Doomguard), but it seems like running around cleasning the DoT and pyroing seems better than worrying about Siphon Life.
3) For Shartuul himself, it didnt look like his shadowbolt damage thingies (technical term btw) were doing a lot of damage to you. Was I just seeing things? Seems pretty easy if you just need to switch to Shadow to Bolt, then Siphon, then switch back.
Will try and throw out my answers. Hopefully they are helpful.
1) Ive never noticed a pattern of Immolate -> Incinerate. My guess, if he is Ice Blocking, its to stop the Incinerate. The Immolate dot can be taken off by the cleanse. The only trouble Immolate causes is if he gets that and the shadow damage debuff on you, since the cleanse only gets rid of one debuff at a time.
2) He might have been switching to Shadow form after a Charge, when the dog is moving slowly, to top himself off. Sometimes the dot gets a tick off or he gets a lucky bite in. It just helps to keep yourself topped up for Shartuul.
3) The shadowbolts only do around 4-5k. They only hurt when you have the shadow damage debuff, which increases any shadow damage taken by 10k. Which is when the eye tentacle mind flays and his bolts are very dangerous. And yes, basically I stay in fire form most of the time, my usual cycle is:
Flame Buffet/Fireball -> cleanse shadow debuff -> shadow form -> siphon/death blast to heal up the shadow bolt damage taken till then. Maybe throw in a Shadow Nova to get rid of eye stalks and put the dot on him if he is close-> back to flame form. Rinse and repeat untill he is dead.
Also, if you stack flame buffet, then Siphon Life, then Chaos Blast, it will put a debuff on him which increases all damage taken for about 30sec by 100k or so. Very nice once Flame buffet is at 10 stacks and you can get some 100k fireballs on him. I dont know what happens if you flame buffet, siphon, and fost nova him, it may put an even higher debuff on him. Have never had the chance to try and get all 3 on at once.
1) I was under the assumption that he doesnt cast Incinerate unless you are affected by Immolate. In the movie, were you only ice blocking to prevent Incinerate damage or to prevent Immolate applications? I wasnt able to follow your UI as well.
He will cast Incinerate even if you aren't affected by Immolate, though I imagine it deals less damage (but can't say for sure). That said, I try to only use Ice Block to prevent Incinerate damage. For Immolate and the Improved Shadow Bolt debuff, I just use the Flame Cleanse.
Unfortunately, as mentioned in that movie, I didn't have debuffs for my pet showing, so I had to guess when I had those debuffs/DoTs on me, but generally if you can see your pet's debuffs, you'll be able to know exactly when you need to use the Flame Cleanse, otherwise it's just a matter of watching for Incinerate cast and swapping to Ice Block.
Originally Posted by Tejs
2) For Shivan Boss 2, the Demon Doggie, why not just stay completely in Flame Form? I havent yet made it to this phase yet (died last time to the Shivan as the Doomguard), but it seems like running around cleasning the DoT and pyroing seems better than worrying about Siphon Life.
As others mentioned, I try to keep swapping from Shadow to Flame form for the life regeneration to get as close to full as possible before the last boss.
Originally Posted by Tejs
3) For Shartuul himself, it didnt look like his shadowbolt damage thingies (technical term btw) were doing a lot of damage to you. Was I just seeing things? Seems pretty easy if you just need to switch to Shadow to Bolt, then Siphon, then switch back.
The others covered this as well, but yes, if you remove the Improved Shadow Bolt debuff immediately, the damage from Shadow Bolts can easily be recovered from the Shadow Nova/Siphon Life heals.
He will cast Incinerate even if you aren't affected by Immolate, though I imagine it deals less damage (but can't say for sure). That said, I try to only use Ice Block to prevent Incinerate damage. For Immolate and the Improved Shadow Bolt debuff, I just use the Flame Cleanse.
Unfortunately, as mentioned in that movie, I didn't have debuffs for my pet showing, so I had to guess when I had those debuffs/DoTs on me, but generally if you can see your pet's debuffs, you'll be able to know exactly when you need to use the Flame Cleanse, otherwise it's just a matter of watching for Incinerate cast and swapping to Ice Block.
As others mentioned, I try to keep swapping from Shadow to Flame form for the life regeneration to get as close to full as possible before the last boss.
The others covered this as well, but yes, if you remove the Improved Shadow Bolt debuff immediately, the damage from Shadow Bolts can easily be recovered from the Shadow Nova/Siphon Life heals.
Good luck!
Thanks to your video, I finally defeated the event for the first time yesterday, earning a [Depleted Dagger]. Thanks!
For those interested, I put together a Strategic Walkthrough movie of this event in it's entirety, which is basically a full-length recording of the event with scrolling tips and information on the bottom to explain what I'm doing and why.
It's a pretty long fight (30 mins) and thus a large download, but for anyone having trouble or looking to increase their chances, I suggest taking a look.
My editing skills are lacking, so pardon that for me please.
Question about the video:
How did you go about setting up your key bindings for the event? The demon abilities are located on a pet bar that I can only see during the event itself, and I believe that it would be difficult to set up key bindings on the fly while running the event at the same time. I can currently complete the event fairly easily by clicking the abilities, but using the keyboard for abilities rather than the mouse better correlates with how I play my character.
Edit: I would also like add that, in my experience, the Shivan Assassin's Ice Block ability does not remove any debuffs. Both the immolate and shadow damage debuffs remained on my character both during and after the Ice Block effect.
06/21/07, 4:59 PM
I died twice from aggro helping a friend out ...
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