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04/16/07, 9:28 PM
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#26
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Priest
Magtheridon
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
Dear lord. If Gurgthock gets one of those he'll steal my innervates again!
I'd say that's great for druids but with the bangle giving +130 spirit I already fill 80-90% of my mana pool with innervate.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, I believe that was the priest class trinket (the old 220 spirit one from lurker).
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04/16/07, 9:45 PM
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#27
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mumbo-jumbo-theorycrafter
Draenei Shaman
Khaz'goroth
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Originally Posted by Buiden
Sorry let me clarify, I don't mean discovered by me and others on these forums, I mean the fact that Blizzard just dumped 20+? previously undiscovered epics on a vendor that hadn't dropped for any guild to date... seems a little bizzare. Anyway, sorry for the derail.
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Especially since the healing rains totem is from Maiden in Kara >.<
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04/16/07, 10:06 PM
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#28
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Literally the Worst Raider
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Originally Posted by Buiden
Sorry let me clarify, I don't mean discovered by me and others on these forums, I mean the fact that Blizzard just dumped 20+? previously undiscovered epics on a vendor that hadn't dropped for any guild to date... seems a little bizzare. Anyway, sorry for the derail.
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Its not really that bizzare.
On live we still have 2 Undefeated Bosses, as well as 2 Bosses that have only been defeated 1 time. Assuming Al'ar and Solarian have at least 6 non-set drops, thats an addition 10 unseen items, Kael'thas and Vashj prolly have at least 8 drops a piece, adding an additional 14, for a conservative estimate of 24 unseen items (prolly is more in reality).
Just cuz the fights are horribly tuned and possibly undeafeatble, doesnt mean they are 100% itemized.
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04/16/07, 10:09 PM
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#29
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Don Flamenco
Blood Elf Paladin
Shattered Hand
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It's mostly impossible to do anything on test, but I finally got my box. It has a wierd mix of kara loot and loot I've never seen before. Aside from the heal stuff in that screen above, there's a neck that is something like 22 sta, 18 int, 73 healing, 6 mana / 5.
There's a bunch of paladin pieces still itemized for pure crit with no mana/5 of course.
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04/16/07, 10:18 PM
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#30
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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Rogue Loot for Black Temple Raiding, left out the T5 pieces... but its disappointing, the lack of +hit...
edit: gain through gems -> 84 ap, 1,6 crit, 28 hit
gain through enchants -> 193 ap, 1,88 crit, 26hit
its such a minor upgrade, and such a HUGE loss on +hit

Last edited by koaschten : 04/17/07 at 5:05 AM.
Reason: added gem + enchant values
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04/16/07, 10:26 PM
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#31
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by Binkenstein
Especially since the healing rains totem is from Maiden in Kara >.<
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It stings a bit that their choice of trinkets for Shaman was Rejuvenating Gem and Scarab of Infinite Cycle. I was hoping for upgrades pre-BT.
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04/16/07, 11:17 PM
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#32
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mumbo-jumbo-theorycrafter
Draenei Shaman
Khaz'goroth
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Originally Posted by Kakistos
It stings a bit that their choice of trinkets for Shaman was Rejuvenating Gem and Scarab of Infinite Cycle. I was hoping for upgrades pre-BT.
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wtb rejuv gem.
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04/16/07, 11:32 PM
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#33
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Why so serious?
Fzero
Human Warrior
No WoW Account
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Trash past Naj:
Bunch of flying mobs outside this gate (Which won't open till you kill Naj.. and there's a tunnel leading up here so priests cant mind vision past here (no mobs in the tunnel))
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Opinion is a medium between knowledge and ignorance.
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04/16/07, 11:43 PM
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#34
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Using computers to make demons kill dragons
Worgen Warlock
Kil'Jaeden
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Originally Posted by koaschten
Rogue Loot for Black Temple Raiding, left out the T5 pieces... but its disappointing, the lack of +hit...
<rogue gear pic>
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What is that stat summary mod? EDIT: I found out its the new version of Ratings Buster.
Also, is t5 not an upgrade with out gems/chants for anyone else? Or are there vendors for this too?
Last edited by Eph : 04/17/07 at 2:06 AM.
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04/16/07, 11:45 PM
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#35
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Stormrage
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Originally Posted by Eph
Also, is t5 not an upgrade with out gems/chants for anyone else? Or are there vendors for this too?
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Yeah, with white gems and no chants the difference is tremendous. They kind of defeated the purpose of handing out free T5 without having free blue-quality (or green at bare minimum) gems and enchants to go with it.
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04/17/07, 1:31 AM
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#36
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Von Kaiser
Undead Rogue
Burning Blade
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I stuck a buncha 4 hit gems in mine and used some of my current items that wouldn't break the set and ended up with -27 hit and -100 AP and a buncha stam+ and a crit+ so it is viable to get an upgrade, but I would suggest sending a gem alt over to give you good gems for it. an
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04/17/07, 2:32 AM
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#37
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
No, I feel the same way. It's a bit odd.
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It makes sense to me, sort of.
Looks to be a "ooh look at the new shiney purples, I must keep playing" ploy. But I think for those that have a shot at actually seeing that loot anytime this summer its a failed plot because its sidegrades in alot of cases, still, and loot wasnt the sole killer of raid morale. For the rest of the population who are still working on Gruul/Mag/finishing up Kara, it was un neeeded "motivation"
Last edited by Shoppingcart : 04/17/07 at 3:03 AM.
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04/17/07, 2:50 AM
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#38
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Von Kaiser
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Added the Ashtongue rewards on MMO-Champion
Also got all the PTR equipment and a few more things (screenshots of new gems, resistance gear comparison) in this post
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04/17/07, 2:53 AM
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#39
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Piston Honda
Tauren Warrior
Kil'Jaeden
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I laughed and cried a little bit when I realized that out of Blackwing Lair, AQ40, Naxxramas, SSC, Gruul's Lair, Magtheridon's Lair, The Eye, Karazhan, and countless 5 mans and heroics, Blizzard has been unable to make a trinket better than Rejuvenating Gem or DFT for some classes.
Edit - To the person above, I lost 5% crit and 480 AP going to T5.
Yay?
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04/17/07, 2:57 AM
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#40
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Edgewalker
I laughed and cried a little bit when I realized that out of Blackwing Lair, AQ40, Naxxramas, SSC, Gruul's Lair, Magtheridon's Lair, The Eye, Karazhan, and countless 5 mans and heroics, Blizzard has been unable to make a trinket better than Rejuvenating Gem or DFT for some classes.
Edit - To the person above, I lost 5% crit and 480 AP going to T5.
Yay?
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Yeah without top quality gems and enchants, the gear isnt that great. I guess I'll have to get some guildies on the PTR so we can share resources
Edit: The hunter boots are really nice but red dragonstalker (again) FTL
Last edited by sovelis41 : 04/17/07 at 3:13 AM.
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04/17/07, 3:13 AM
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#41
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Paladin
Aggramar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Teza
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Is this guy selling....soul shards?
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04/17/07, 3:15 AM
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#42
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Don Flamenco
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He's handing them out for free, yes, just like the Naxxramas NPC.
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04/17/07, 3:58 AM
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#43
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Von Kaiser
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Hybrids need to really fish around all the class boxes to get proper gear, and even then if you don't have some of your own from your xfer'd char you're probably SoL, as some of the really good pieces just aren't there. Infact, melee classes in general seem very lacking(some of the warrior tank pieces are just bad compared to easy to get live items, and there's like no +hit gear given out, better get some dawnstones =/)
Also some people are linking pieces I didn't see in any of the class boxes(got 1 of each just to browse) this one posted by heel looks good but I didn't see it, there are others but I didn't take screens.

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04/17/07, 4:36 AM
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#44
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Piston Honda
Orc Death Knight
Dunemaul
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Originally Posted by Kamna
Is this guy selling....soul shards?
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Yes. You have no idea how many soul shards a warlock goes through for first kills. Throwing shadowburn into your rotation eats through them extremely fast.
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04/17/07, 4:52 AM
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#45
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by heel
This one was linked in general chat - no idea where it's from: 
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Reputation Ring for the Hyjal Instance.
Last edited by Cyprux : 04/17/07 at 4:55 AM.
Reason: smaller screenshot
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04/17/07, 4:56 AM
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#46
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Piston Honda
Murloc Warrior
Hellscream
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It seems unfortunate that ring is the only thing I saw of anything posted thats pretty sweet looking. Anyone got screenshots of the other Hyjal rep rings then?
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04/17/07, 5:24 AM
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#47
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oop dat me
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Definitely Exalted rep ring. The fact you can turn it in to 'reverse the process' (take another one) supports that.
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04/17/07, 5:32 AM
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#48
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the staleness of Max's dumps
Vykromond
Tauren Druid
No WoW Account
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Has BT actually been playable for anyone? Lag for me, even as late as 1am server time, has made actually getting anything done a pipe dream.
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04/17/07, 5:36 AM
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#49
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Banned
Night Elf Hunter
Earthen Ring (EU)
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Anyone done any instance testing? I really think the reason why blizz did this is because there were heavy complaints that there wasn't enough (if any) PTR testing of raid instances post gruul. Was in there with a handful of random pickups but certainly nothing one could pull any trash with (well we did ...)
On another note that I hadn't seen mentioned (maybe missed it) the neck "Medallion of Karabor". Having this is required to enter the instance hence I think it's a good bet that acquiring it is the end of the actual attunement.
The instance testing goodie boxes actually contain two necklaces, one utility one and this one.
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You can see what seems to be the first boss right from where you enter the instance. Leviathan, a 2-headed lizard type boss in the model of those that can be found in Zangar. Edit: Not sure it's a boss actually but anyway.
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04/17/07, 5:37 AM
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#50
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Great Tiger
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Originally Posted by Cyprux
Reputation Ring for the Hyjal Instance.
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How did you acquire this information?
Edit: Actually went there myself, and this dialog showed up . . . however, a Paladin guildmate saw nothing of the sort. Weird.
Last edited by heel : 04/17/07 at 5:47 AM.
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