First item dropped on EU ptr from an Aqueous Lord:

Hmmm... I'm not sure if this is entirely appropriate but I'll risk it anyway. I'm on the test server as Vont and I'm interested in joining a testing raid for Black Temple (or Hyjal). I doubt I will ever get to see it on live servers. I think I know what I'm doing =x. I'm also extremely eager to try out arcane blast cycles with the obscene T5 set bonus.

Drop me a line if anyone has some more info.

True, none of the recpies are new ( I distinctly recall them when I did my last 'for the love of jebus give me some reason to keep LWing' scan), but stats are MIA.

Where it gets interesting is that those stats are actually....very good, high quality BoEs- with raid mats (Vortexicies? man I can't spell). Perhaps they're attempting to provide raider->non raider sellable items to help supply the guild bank?

To put it more clearly, because of (even post consumable hit) the vast amount of mats that are required in general on a farming basis for encounters (assuming stuff like hydros still uses full consumable spreads, be those heavily nerfed), perhaps rather than simple 'good' boe epics Blizz decided to add in GREAT ones that the highest end guilds can sell to those not as far progressed (BT guilds vs Mag, eg) for money or consumables.

It seems to me like a somewhat logical progression in the theme of making raids semi-self sustaining without countless hours of farming- I doubt that the flasks available for SSC or Gruul's are going to fall down like candy, but if JoeCasual goes out and farms up 100 Armaments I could probably sweet talk your guild LWer into making me belt <X> if I supply all non-vortex mats.

THis is of course assuming Nether Vortex does not continue to be a 2 per raid ID drop- if that's the case I have no earthly idea why they'd make these craftable at all, seeing how the BS weapons alone will contitute a rediculous amount of farming, followed by those in guild unlukcy enough that they could still get upgrades from the BoEs.

So am I nuts, or would this be a nicely elegant solution that might actually fit in with the new 'raiding no longer a time sucking farming life destroying hole' theme?

Black Temple ? Bah. Who cares.

Enough people to start a 4 page thread apparently.

Edit: Oh wait, didn't actually look at the picture. Black temple is sooooo 2006.

You might be able to camp the gem vendor in Stormspire for some limited-quantity green gems, if nobody has thought to do so first.

New Loot dropped from trash mobs:

An upgrade to Supple Leather Boots? Unfathomable!

And it's epic?! Inconceivable!

Clearly Photoshopped.

Feral derail now concluded, carry on.

Yet another new loot dropped in Black Temple:

All new BT loots are being tracked in this thread

I don't speak german, is that a +15 spell hit, +49 shadow damage cloak?



Edit: Ah yes I suck at seeing that white text.

The translation is in white right beside the item discription for those who can't translate it themselves.

By the gods, is all I have to say.

Interesting on that thread is a ret paladin piece of armor with +haste rating equiped bonus. I have never seen passive haste rating items in the game before.

This is definitely a change of design, though it's amusing they gave the potentially overpowered loot to the worst dps class in the game. :p

For the curious, 29 haste rating =~ 2.75% haste at 70. (10.5333333... points of haste rating per 1%)

I wouldn't say that it scales that much better than critrating for example, you'll still be cooldown limited, and it doesn't increase your DPM (or rage/ energy), only your DPS.

And if it's a rather common stat on certain itemslots (for example a lot of belts/boots would get some haste rating, just like some rings have armour on them for druids) then I doubt it will be anything near gamebreaking.

Haste is actually insanely overpowered for dps warriors, as it "bypasses" rage normalization; 3% haste is a guaranteed 3% more rage, as you hit 3% more often - while 3% more dps doesn't give nearly the same return.

Having said that, I don't think T6-geared dps warriors with full raid buffs and windfury are going to be having any rage problems anyway.

Retadins nothing, warriors will be clawing over each other for that thing even with the useless stats. Haste really is that good.

Given all the discussion about their relative merit, I'd be surprised to see a Ret Paladin in Black Temple to begin with.

Is not one nice to keep all JOL, JOW and JOC up with just crusader strike?

For more information on this: Retadin use in raids?