Perhaps it is time to chance the structure of this forum? I know this has come up a few times in the past, and the owners and moderators of the forum have been quick to say that they like it the way it is.

While I sympathize with the fear of spreading too few users too thin (by creating too many sub forums), it seems to me that the EJ forum has been growing by leaps and bounds lately.

I love the forum and the crowd that posts here, and the no-nonsense attitude of the moderators. I am not so keen, on the other hand, on digging through 48 pages of old posts to find the latest ones in a thread. If a few sub forums was opened, confining relatively broad areas of conversation to single threads might no longer be required.

As an example: A 5vs5 thread where all discussion pertaining to the subject is supposed to go, will without any shred of doubt grow to a point where it is a hassle to navigate. A lot of people are interested in PvP these days, I would imagine a sub forum would get a healthy amount of users.

At the very least I would divide the board into theorycraft, pve, pvp. These are very broad definitions which supports a lot of ground.

So, that was my 2 cents.

I would agree that a PvP forum would get a bit of use. It's a pretty broad subject that generally shares less with general discussion than some other things, and one that either is or isn't of interest to specific users.

I would also think that a Encounter Information/Discussion/Strategy Forum would be useful. It would give people a place to go first the first stop if they need to look and ask for information, without having to search through some rather unwieldy, often long, wide-ranging and/or buried, threads. And as a popular topic I think it would manage to still keep an active crowd.

My two cents.

a pvp forum to discuss builds, gear, strategies and so on would be really appreciated

Certainly a concern, I agree, too many forks are far from ideal for a lot of reasons. I am happy you will at least entertain the idea of splitting out a separate PvP forum, which was the main idea which got me posting in the first place.

EJ has a very high standard on posters, particularly in the fields of theory crafting and endgame raiding. The amount of posts regarding PvP, while increasing lately, has been lacking. I believe this is because EJ "looks and feels" a lot like a PvE board.

By giving avid PvP players a segment of their own to post in, you will attract more players which see little reason to frequent "raid boards", in addition to cater to the PvP players that already post here.

As a side effect it will also free up space on the "general" board, and so allow people to split discussions into new threads more often. I refuse to believe that I am the only person reluctant to follow discussions spread over a 40 page thread, which may or may not be so old that the start of the thread is no longer relevant to what is being discussed twoards the end.

From my point of view it would be sufficient to just make a "Player vs Player" board and then rename "Public Discussion" to something appropriate for PvE.

Become a benefactor. We talk about PvP in that forum all the time.

Also, Frieza, use caps.

Well, a quick survey of the EJ forums shows that the threads fall into several categories.


1) Class concerns - theorycrafting and itemisation
2) PvP - discussions on team makeup, tactics etc.
3) Raiding theorycrafting - tactics, group makeup
4) Previews of upcoming content - PTR material
5) Crafting - quite a lot of overlap with class concerns on itemisation

Right now, (1) is the only one that has its own forum, and it's a bit of a melange of different areas. Discussion of itemisation is split awkwardly over all the different forums. Not all these areas have enough traffic to drive a forum section, obviously.

I'd be tempted to recommend the following split.

A) PvP
B) Class / Individual discussions
C) Raid / Group discussions
D) Future content previews

Most discussion of itemisation, crafting etc. addresses how you can best advance your individual toon and thus would sit more easily in the class theorycrafting forum

Discussions of raid group politics, setup, tactics etc. fit into a forum of their own - how do you advance the *group* by getting individuals to work together

Splitting off discussions of future content is really a no-brainer. Yes, traffic there would be very seasonal, but it's very frustrating trying to look up details of current itemisation, suggested specs etc. if it's all buried in discussions of what's *going* to be the best idea in a month and a half's time.

Special paid for accounts, long-ass threads, heavy moderation... what does that remind me of?

Also I would like to add that a PVP subforum would be something I'd like to see. I've been looking and can't find a good PVP forum anywhere (if anyone knows one let me know :P), an EJ PVP forum would be perfect if it got the same amount of traffic as the more raid inclined forums.

They are goons afterall.

Probably the other best forum on the internet from which EJ sprang in the first place. 10 bucks is completely trivial and for the amount of work that this forum saves me and the interesting things that people learn it's well worth it to me.

Yes, I don't want to get rid of a "general discussion" forum that serves as a catch-all for everything that doesn't fall under a specific umbrella. Given the emergence of serious arena play, a PvP subforum does seem like the best candidate if we were going to add another forum.

Also bear in mind that while this forum is chaotic currently, that's also because we just had the biggest patch ever in WoW, pretty much, hit the PTRs, with new items, new quests, new raid zones, various balance changes, etc. It spawns a flurry of discussion but in two weeks that won't be the case.

There is website run by HappyMinti at

www.shadow-gaming.com

which is exclusively focused on PvP. I don't know if it's heavily moderated like the EJ forums, but at least the idiots from worldofming don't seem to have found it yet. It has some interesting articles as well.