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04/29/07, 6:57 PM
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King Hippo
Enervate
Tauren Warrior
No WoW Account
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High Astromancer Solarian
So I'm wondering who else here has attempted this fight. The fight does not seem overly hard, however healer mana seemed to become an issue later in the fight, and killing the adds fast enough. Granted, we were short on shadow priests last night, and probably didn't have as much AOE as we would have liked. Hopefully tonight will be better.
We were thinking of using arcane resist, however the stacking debuff would seem to make using such gear an exercise in futility as all of it will be negated not long into the fight. I read about a few abilities the boss supposedly had before we did our attempts such as the Mana Storm (conjures a large mana storm hitting everyone within 35 yards for 4000 arcane damage every 2 sec for 10 seconds) which I am assuming is an enrage because we got here to 60ish% without seeing this ability. The only abilities I've seen at this point is the Arcane Missiles which seem to have a frontal cone mechanic (if you face her away from the raid she hits nobody but the main tank with it), Mark of Solarian (raidwide stacking debuff that does damage when applied and lowers arcane resistance), and Wrath of the Astromancer which is still a bit cloudy to me. It seems to target a random person (although there may be a threat mechanic involved) and jumps to the person closest to them when the debuff runs it's course (not 100% sure about that).
We kill the adds in time every time, but we don't have much if any time to DPS her after the adds are down. Any discussion/input on this particular boss would be great.
Last edited by Enervate : 04/29/07 at 7:14 PM.
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04/29/07, 7:56 PM
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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The question is, HOW FAST are you killing the adds, are they down before the priests spawn? if not, you are not fast enough. The fight is kinda
a) dps boss
b) ae those 15+ adds
c) prevent priests from healing and kill em
goto a)
dont want to spoil more 
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04/29/07, 10:06 PM
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Von Kaiser
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is it advised to start attempting him before we clear SSC, minus vash.
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04/29/07, 10:49 PM
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King Hippo
Enervate
Tauren Warrior
No WoW Account
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Probably not.
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04/29/07, 10:59 PM
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Not Helpful.
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Originally Posted by Stefan
is it advised to start attempting him before we clear SSC, minus vash.
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Should you compose questions without using caps, without a question mark, and without mistaking a boss for an anime character?
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04/29/07, 11:13 PM
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Piston Honda
Gnome Rogue
Shattered Hand
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
Should you compose questions without using caps, without a question mark, and without mistaking a boss for an anime character?
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This must be one of those rhetorical questions I hear so much about...
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"Existence has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
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04/30/07, 12:31 AM
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King Hippo
Enervate
Tauren Warrior
No WoW Account
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Just killed her 10ish minutes ago...we changed our strat concerning the AOE adds and it worked pretty well. lol @ the 20% "enrage"
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04/30/07, 1:49 AM
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Soda Popinski
Sebudai
Orc Hunter
No WoW Account
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Anyone killing her without abusing corpses or a suicide strat? =p
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04/30/07, 2:17 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sebudai
Anyone killing her without abusing corpses or a suicide strat? =p
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Yes. Once you have the logic of the debuff and DoT down, you can trivialize both with some fairly straightforward raid placement.
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04/30/07, 3:45 AM
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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Originally Posted by Harn
Yes. Once you have the logic of the debuff and DoT down, you can trivialize both with some fairly straightforward raid placement.
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Agreed.
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04/30/07, 3:50 AM
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Paladin
Taerar (EU)
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The only abilities I've seen at this point is the Arcane Missiles which seem to have a frontal cone mechanic (if you face her away from the raid she hits nobody but the main tank with it)
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Uhm aren't the missiles random nukes, just like aran?
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04/30/07, 3:55 AM
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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Did you try splitting your raid into ranged at max-ability range and melee?
You should be doing this for any new encounter you try.
edit: well its rather max-ability range minus mindflay 
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04/30/07, 4:19 AM
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by rei
Uhm aren't the missiles random nukes, just like aran?
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They appear to only target someone who is within 90 degrees to the left or right of her primary threat. This includes pets and totems. Within that area, yes, it's random.
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04/30/07, 4:19 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by koaschten
Did you try splitting your raid into ranged at max-ability range and melee?
You should be doing this for any new encounter you try.
edit: well its rather max-ability range minus mindflay 
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http://www.thottbot.com/s39414
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04/30/07, 4:23 AM
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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sagen, have you done the encounter? successfully?
the spell you linked is the frontal one, on the target with highest threat.
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04/30/07, 4:32 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by koaschten
sagen, have you done the encounter? successfully?
the spell you linked is the frontal one, on the target with highest threat.
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What exactly are you max ranging?
You obviously aren't max ranging a spell with a 45 yard range.
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04/30/07, 4:34 AM
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by sagen
What exactly are you max ranging?
You obviously aren't max ranging a spell with a 45 yard range.
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If I were to guess, I would assume he's talking about specified groups the Wrath is bouncing between, namely the melee vs the ranged.
This protects the melee from ranged Wrath cycles, and vice versa.
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04/30/07, 4:52 AM
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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Sorry, sagen, i am not going to give you a walkthrough, if someone else does, ok 
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04/30/07, 5:03 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by koaschten
Sorry, sagen, i am not going to give you a walkthrough, if someone else does, ok 
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I wasn't asking for your advice, I was making the point that your advice doesn't seem very good.
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04/30/07, 5:11 AM
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Don Flamenco
Undead Warlock
Dentarg (EU)
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it's fairly straight easy to figure out how to avoid that anyone gets more then 1 stack of the +50% arcane dmg taken. The problem we have atm is that four locks and four mages cannot kill the 15 spawns until astromancer is back. :P
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04/30/07, 5:14 AM
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by kaib
it's fairly straight easy to figure out how to avoid that anyone gets more then 1 stack of the +50% arcane dmg taken. The problem we have atm is that four locks and four mages cannot kill the 15 spawns until astromancer is back. :P
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Why do you expect 8 people to DPS down 15 mobs?
What are the other 17 people doing?
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04/30/07, 5:56 AM
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Soda Popinski
Sebudai
Orc Hunter
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Harn
Yes. Once you have the logic of the debuff and DoT down, you can trivialize both with some fairly straightforward raid placement.
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Good, because it seems like it would be pretty easy to exploit the hell out of this encounter. I'm pretty sure I know what the intended strat is, but I'm kinda disappointed because it's nowhere near the easiest way to kill her as she is right now.
I think.
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04/30/07, 6:28 AM
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Glass Joe
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Good, because it seems like it would be pretty easy to exploit the hell out of this encounter. I'm pretty sure I know what the intended strat is, but I'm kinda disappointed because it's nowhere near the easiest way to kill her as she is right now.
I think.
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There is a simple solution to that line of thinking with the debuff, hopefully it will be fixed to prevent abuse. Not sure i would call it the easiest way to kill her however the intended way is pretty easy to deal with, just need some good position and a little practice.
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04/30/07, 7:01 AM
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Soda Popinski
Sebudai
Orc Hunter
No WoW Account
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There's atleast two ways to abuse the encounter. One of them is a clear bug exploit, and the other is what seems to be a complete oversight by the designer.
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04/30/07, 7:29 AM
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Glass Joe
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I can think of two small oversights when combined with some creative thinking could be exploited, maybe you found something different all together i don't know. Either way hopefully they get fixed soon.
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