Thanks for the response. I checked again, and I must be missing something.

The pre-optimized setup has 1712 hit rating. Both the tool and the in-game paperdoll frame agree on this.

As far as I can tell, the optimization suggests exactly two changes:

head - 67 mastery -> 67 haste (no change to hit)
neck - 50 mastery -> 50 spirit (net +50 hit rating)

This is a net increase of 50 rating; 1712 + 50 = 1762 total, which is over the cap. The in-game paperdoll agrees with this figure, but the tool says the optimized set has only 1727 rating:

Mr. Robot - Character Profile - World of Warcraft

Is the tool suggesting some other changes to hit or spirit that I don't see? Where is it getting the 1727 total from?

The scale factors generated by SimC (or stat weights or equivalence points or ...) are relative to the fixed gear point at which they were calculated. If one were to start with a naked toon and pick gear to maximize the sum of stat*stat_weight products, then scale factors generated by SimC will have limited use in this scenario.

Mr. Robot - Character Profile - World of Warcraft

The enchant upgrades are pretty clearly accurate as well as the gem, however the reforging results in worse stats by a pretty large margin. The optimization lands me a few rating points over the hit cap, a few under the exp soft cap, and then with much less Mastery in favor of about 2.5% crit. You can see my overall score drops 32.53 points despite the gem and enchant upgrades.

You also say you consider Darkmoon Card: Hurricane BiS for DW frost in this thread but the optimizer continues to suggest Impatience of Youth instead.

dedmonwakeen: We understand that what SimC and other people's spreadsheets, simulators, formulators, etc. are trying to do when they create stat weights is to tell you the relative value of each stat at that particular gearing point. As stats change, the weights change. What we have been doing is reverse engineering the stat weights we use based on Best in Slot gear configurations. Between item level 346 and 372, stats just don't change that much. So, the weights still work well at all the gear levels, but the site becomes more and more accurate the better your gear gets. We allow for the "major" discontinuities such as soft and hard caps, but we ignore the small, gradual shifts. When I say that the stat weights that SimC creates don't always look right - that is because sometimes the weights would lead me to make changes that the simulator itself is telling me are less optimal.

Kaejin: We're going to put out an update later tonight. Our code that enforces the DMC: Hurricane as BiS for DW Frost DKs needs to be re-implemented. That will be in the update. As far as your example of an "optimization" that slightly reduces your total EP value - it looks like you just happen to have very optimal reforges on your gear already. The drop in EP value of 32.53 is about a 0.17% change, which would be within in the margin of error on our approximate method. (Keep in mind that about 12 of that is because of the run speed enchant being put on your boots reducing your mastery by 15.) That change in value can basically be seen as negligible. I'd say, upgrade your enchants, and leave your reforges where they are!

I was actually less concerned with the total statValue pts available then the relative distribution of various stats. It would be nice to be able to input ( InitialStat, StatWeight ) pairs, where your goodness function becomes a sum of StatWeight*(Stat-InitialStat) for each stat.

Pretty much the same here, as it wants me to plug in 4 JC gems.

I think I see the problem. Here is the results pane that I see in my browser:



I take it the blank sections in green should have actual text in them?

This behavior is 100% reproducible for me in Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, and Chrome.

MatsT is correct. Perhaps we should consider putting some text like "removed" to be more clear.

Several of the bugs found yesterday have been fixed, including the issue with using too many jewelcrafter gems. Here's a link to the full list of changes:

Change Log

I looked at the thread on how trinkets are calculated and I believe that DMC:V is calculated incorrectly because the INT gained from the proc does not improve your mana (only your max mana) the value of the INT from proc is not equal to the true value of INT.

Rather it is equivalent to the spellpower and crit gained from the proc:

INT*(value of spellpower)+INT/(int to crit%)*(crit rating to crit %)*(value of crit)

The second part of the formula just converts INT->Crit Rating.

I would agree that the portion of the intellect stat weight which accounts for increased mana pool should not be considered.

We used a sort of rough estimate for DMC: Volcano right now because everything I've read seems to unanimously agree it is the BiS trinket for damage casters. It's just that good. Over-estimating it slightly at this point won't actually make a difference in gear selection. I actually prefer it being over-estimated for now because I want it to always be selected.

Retribution has the same issue; secondary stat enchants are rated below the AP enchants from WotLK. The default stat weightings Mr. Robot uses for Ret agree that

• Enchant Bracer - Greater Critical Strike (+65 crit) < Enchant Bracers - Greater Assault (+50 AP)
• Enchant Boots - Mastery < Enchant Boots - Haste < Enchant Boots - Precision < Enchant Boots - Greater Assault

The WotLK enchants are not recommended when appropriate: example.