Frigo

Our guild killed Karathress last night, so we're about to start on Leotheras. I will be the warlock tanking him in Demon Form.

I have my gear sorted out (got all heroic fire res gear, blue neck, blue ring, lots of stamina gear), but I'm wondering if I need any specific talents like Soul Link? I'm not worried about respeccing for first kill or even second, but I don't want to respec everytime we try this boss.

Any information would be much appreciated.

 

Mondragon

We killed him without a SL specced lock. Just heavy Fr/Stamina gear and lots of Searing Pain He also had Demonic Embrace

 

Stigmata

we use the same i believe.

 

Vigie

we do.

as far as i know our warlock tank is affliction specced, wearing high fr/stam gear. So unless you dont want to be affliction you dont have to respecc everytime.

 

dukes

Normally demo/destro(21/40) spec with a sacrificed imp for fire damage afaik (and another warlock in his group for imp). Flask of fort/Titans helps a lot to stop getting one shot later on in the demon phases (he has ~14.8k hp raid buffed afaik).

 

niska

it probably isn't necessary, but the 70 extra resist from felhunter MD and SL mitigation certainly wouldn't hurt. some warlocks respec weekly for the arena anyway.

 

Mondragon

well it means the Lock has to spend less on Fr to hit the resist cap, and healers have to focus on keeping the pet alive. Different sorts I guess.

 

Aranik

The "mitigation" is somewhat fake, though - don't get me wrong, it's useful to reduce the chance of a one-shot, but doesn't actually reduce the amount of damage that has to be covered; it just splits some of it to the pet, which will then require healing as well.

If the problem is gathering enough health to survive getting burned down in the time before your healers can react, then SL would useful but thankfully outgearable ('outgearable' consisting only of heavy stamina greens/blues).

 

Quixotic

I tank this spec in my PvP spec, 5/35/21 with capped FR. Soul link with demonic resilience is a small damage reduction, but not huge. The main benefit of soul link is you can wear 70 less FR which in turn allows you to wear more hit (if your CoD gets resisted aggro becomes an issue) and when he splits into demon if you had a stack on you it allows you to take an extra debuff before you get one shotted.

 

Frigo

Ok guys, thanks for the replies, one more question: How much damage can I expect per Bolt, and how many second cast time is it?

 

◊ Quigon

You should learn him and kill shot him with Soul Link. As you get better at the fight, you can go to other specs. I would think thats ideal... for your 50g.

 

◊ Praetorian

Yeah, you are going to flask your raid for Leotheras. If you're spending that much on flasks and consumables, a respec should be nothing. The guild should subsidize it. Find a warlock with suitable gear and ideally some skill, and pay him to respec to this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AZbxczIiz0xoZxx0tbhuG

Horrible spec for anything else, but pretty much optimal for a Leo tank!

 

• Chicken

I'd actually be careful with taking Nether Protection, while I can't speak from experience with Leo himself, I do know it causes the imps at Illhoof to temporarily ignore the Warlock, and I think I remember having one of our Warlocks having issues with the Caster Emperor at the Twin Emperors ignoring him when Nether Protection procced back before the expansion was released.

If this was tested to work you can obviously ignore my inexperienced view.

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Gumibear

Does Leotheras keep attacking through a Nether Protection proc? I would think he would ignore an immune target.

EDIT: Beaten.

I'm also fairly certain 2 points in Demonic Knowledge would be better for aggro purposes than 2 in Emberstorm.

 

◊ Praetorian

I actually don't know. We were going to do the above but grabbed a PvP-specced SL lock to do the tanking with no respec needed. Upon reflection, I suppose it'd actually be better to do something like 5/31/25 with Suppression to minimize CoD resists?

 

Ellere

yea, when the 41 pt talents came out @ lvl 60 back when we were still running AQ and we had our lock w/ nether prot tanking twin emps everytime it procced he would shadowbolt somebody else, had to keep right clicking off the nether prot; almost cost us a wipe :] I don't really see how leo would be any different but can't say for sure without testing it of course.

 

Natrozim

Well, unless you use 2/5 of T5, then your pet gets healed for 30% of the dmg you are healed, the only use atm I can find for that set bonus...

It's possible to have 2 pieces when you reach leo anyway, shoulders from void (where I can't even find a decent piece of FR for) and leggings from fathomlord (though, those take the spot of the nice epic FR legs)

 

kaib

SS or better DI + SS on that paladin solve the extra debuffs you might have when you reach 15%. We've done ith with an affliction/destro warlock just fine. Ofc demon spec makes it quite a bit easier.

We had a NP lock for our first kills and I'm fairly sure it doesn't even proc in the first place. It definitely doesn't switch aggro. Even if it did, that would be quite good. I managed once to randomly overaggro 10s before demon phase ended with some unlucky resists for the warlock and chain crits on blast/death for me. That's about the best that can happen. Any caster can easily take a few bolts and towards the end the warlock usually has a dangerous amount of debuff stacks. So if NP would make him switch target for 1-2 bolts, it would simplify the whole thing a lot actually.

 

HaklePrime

His Chaos Blast is a targetted AE. Nether Protection does not proc off of any form of AE.

However, you can duel in SSC . . . take that how you will . . .

It being an AE, however, gives a druid in high FR a slight advantage over a Warrior, if you don't use a Warlock, what with the AE avoidance talent.

 

Crepe

Heh. If the bug where standing in a camp fire proced NP still was around, you could have used that. ;-)

 

Dots

Not to get off-topic, but warriors in improved Defensive Stance take 15.6% less damage from spells.

 

◊ Quigon

Warlocks also don't have to stand in melee range, which means its working a bit more effectively right now without stacking or pulling melee out. Plus they can do reasonable dps meanwhile. Also, the pet taking 30% should help with spike damage.

Its not about the damage being taken anyway - so mitigation only helps the spike - overall, its about spike control and resistance.

 

niska

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=NZbxczIiz0tsxxx0xbhz would be best. 20% crit from talents is kinda hot.

 

Cel

Can't heal people who are dueling, eh?

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Trouble

Our experience with nether protection on the fight was...it didn't work. I don't know if there was some retardation or bugs or what, but if not I'm pretty sure it simply does not work. It didn't proc ever for our warlock. We switched him over to Soul Link after realizing it was doing nothing. Soul Link definitely is not a requirement but it increases the odds of survival if you get a bad streak of resists and you're heading up above 6-7 stacks of the debuff.