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Old 05/16/07, 4:10 PM   #46
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The new BOE epics that require nether vortices should help out guild funds greatly imo.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:21 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Anias View Post
Another way to think about it is in total deaths per hour. I doubt any character in wow dies more per hour than the avg for an active raid during learning.
PvP comes close. But then, PvP has durability costs waived, and consumable farming costs waived too. For the same gear progression level.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:26 PM   #48
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I can't wait for guild banks, as long as they implement them in an easy to use, non-exploitable fashion then all should be well!

As far as VOIP goes, meh this feature isn't really for us raiderish types who already use VOIP it is just to appeal to the mass of people that don't already use it, IMHO. I seriously doubt that (m)any raiding guilds will give up their dedicated ventrilo servers, unless the implementation of WoW VOIP is superb.

On a slightly related note, I definitely agree that guild bank income after 2.1 will be a lot nicer. I forsee the selling of BOE crafted items from SSC/TK/Hyjal/BT will be very lucrative sales. Not to mention if the drop rate on purple gems is high (and it seems to be) then eventually we'll have a surplus of gems to sell off as well.

Lets just hope patch 2.2 doesn't take another 4 months

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Old 05/16/07, 4:33 PM   #49
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Don't forget the new epic gems, specifically from BT (I don't recall if they were in Hyjal as well). Depending on the drop rate, I could see guilds turning a pretty decent profit from selling those off.

Also there's the consumables tokens, again obviously dependent on the drop rate, but if you're pulling in more than you're using, there'll probably be a decent market for selling those to lower tiered guilds.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:37 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by XI- View Post
I might be playing devil's advocate here, but I'm going to be honest. I'm looking forward to VOIP so that I can tell people all the things I think of them during battlegrounds that have treated me to numerous interactions with the Blizzard staff in the past.
I know I'm succumbing to the lowest level here, but yeah I can't wait to let lose a string of expletives in a battleground the likes of which any mother in earshot of her child playing wow will cut his credit card usage and destroy the computer.
Seriously I will be swearing so much I'll have to learn 3 new languages, and start mashing words together for greater efficiency.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:47 PM   #51
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I seem to be behind the times. I've tried a couple vent/TS overlay programs to tell me who was speaking when they broadcast over vent, but none of them worked particularly well (or at least consistently).

Am I missing some very basic program that displays the "who's speaking" on my screen? If not, I would want to use the built-in one Blizzard is developing for this reason alone.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...6766?page=3#41
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Old 05/16/07, 4:49 PM   #52
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With the VoIP situation, the only problem I would have would it being monitored which I would assume it could be. Not all guilds when in raids/parties have the cleanest language. I know for a fact half our guild would be banned if we had "typed" what we said and they have seen it. The nice thing about ventrillo is, hey to bad you screwed up listen to the gm curse you out for sucking and you can't do anything, whereas with VoIP they could possibly report?

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I seem to be behind the times. I've tried a couple vent/TS overlay programs to tell me who was speaking when they broadcast over vent, but none of them worked particularly well (or at least consistently).

Am I missing some very basic program that displays the "who's speaking" on my screen? If not, I would want to use the built-in one Blizzard is developing for this reason alone.
I use voice overlay, shows who is talking in vent on the screen in warcraft.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:51 PM   #53
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Am I missing some very basic program that displays the "who's speaking" on my screen?
Not very basic, but http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-96759...9348188&sr=8-1 pretty much takes care of it.

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Old 05/16/07, 4:56 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by Crazytrucker View Post
I use voice overlay, shows who is talking in vent on the screen in warcraft.
For the record, do you mean this VoiceOverlay? I'm a little paranoid about downloading random WoW-related binaries in this age of keyloggers--as I hope everyone here is.

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Old 05/16/07, 5:14 PM   #55
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http://www.teamspeakoverlay.com/ works quite well for TS.

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Old 05/16/07, 5:17 PM   #56
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In game VOIP is going to open a whole new world of griefing people which blizzard won't be able to do anything about. Ever had to password your raid channel in vent when you got spammed or some random came online broadcasting static etc... good times.

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Old 05/16/07, 5:31 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by Buiden View Post
Lets just hope patch 2.2 doesn't take another 4 months
Just remember that in Blizzardspeak, 'after patch 2.1' could as easily mean patch 2.4 or 12.0.

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Old 05/16/07, 5:33 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
In game VOIP is going to open a whole new world of griefing people which blizzard won't be able to do anything about. Ever had to password your raid channel in vent when you got spammed or some random came online broadcasting static etc... good times.
Uh, how? You just kick them out of your group/raid. Or you turn off the in-game voice chat.

The more interesting question is how the TOS will be applied or enforced (how?) in this setting. If someone is using profanity or whatever in chat channels, they can get reported and sanctioned based on the chat logs. If someone in my PUG is throwing around racial slurs left and right, what can people do except ignore him?

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Old 05/16/07, 5:45 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
Uh, how? You just kick them out of your group/raid. Or you turn off the in-game voice chat.

The more interesting question is how the TOS will be applied or enforced (how?) in this setting. If someone is using profanity or whatever in chat channels, they can get reported and sanctioned based on the chat logs. If someone in my PUG is throwing around racial slurs left and right, what can people do except ignore him?
I imagine a /ignore will work to filter out the VOIP comments from people as well as chat. If not, that should become a quickly requested feature.

Depending on the storage resources they have at thier disposal it could be possible to cache all traffic for a set period of time, so they can be reviewed by GMs. Knowledge of this ability may be enough to curb the majority of complete assholes.


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Old 05/16/07, 5:46 PM   #60
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In game VOIP will certainly add another facet to the "omg ur a girl1!?!?!?!11" experience. Especially for those of us who find it difficult to keep their mouth shut.

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