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Old 05/22/07, 11:30 PM   #1
 Arawethion
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2.1 bugs and unlisted changes

Concisely post any new bugs on live servers, or apparent game changes that weren't in the patch notes.

(No, I don't have any to contribute, but I'd like to have one condensed place to look for them, and I'm sure others would as well).

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 05/22/07, 11:33 PM   #2
Stefan
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I noticed something while putting stuff on the AH, blizz put in a nice feature where it will remeber the price of an item(i.e. I was putting up a ton of arcane dust and it kept remebering the original buyout and bid price).

edit- I didn't see this in the patch notes, but I may have overlooked it.
 
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Old 05/22/07, 11:36 PM   #3
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Mal'Ganis
Gruul, of course, has been reported to be Hurtful Striking the third aggro target, rather than the second.
 
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Old 05/22/07, 11:37 PM   #4
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Reposting this from the other thread:

Lurker changes we noticed:

1.) He comes up early, maybe 10-20 seconds earlier.

2.) Adds in the middle are no longer MCable.

3.) The damage from Geyser can hit anyone in the raid including people on platforms, but the knocback ALWAYS hits his primary target (tank) causing your tank to be knocked back 50% of the time or so, making threat generation very difficult.

4.) Can't confirm this, but spout seems to be going faster.

5.) The adds no longer despawn, but in cases where they would respawn they move to their original spawn location.

We've been mostly one shotting lurker for a while and he is significantly harder for us, enough that we moved on for the evening after three tries. Our dps was way off on the adds in the middle, we were getting one dead by the time he came back. Contrast this to how it was before, where everything would be dead with 10 seconds to spare.


Also just to note, Pattern: Belt of the Long Road dropped off trash around Leotheras.

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Old 05/22/07, 11:50 PM   #5
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Almost all of my gear is showing up as empty slots and kicking me off the server when I try to link it.

"Existence has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
 
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Old 05/22/07, 11:53 PM   #6
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Almost all of my gear is showing up as empty slots and kicking me off the server when I try to link it.
Disable addons?
 
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Old 05/22/07, 11:55 PM   #7
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Krosh in Gruuls isn't casting the fire shield for us.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:00 AM   #8
Cartina
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Gladiator Pants are now.. Shorts?

http://i8.tinypic.com/4p2m6wo.jpg

Originally Posted by Drysc
Actually this is a known bug and will be fixed in the next patch.
http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/devtr.../details/6625/
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:02 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
Disable addons?
No, delete WDB.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:15 AM   #10
 Acustar
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Shadow Word: Death is dealing damage twice if it's reflected. I tested before (final boss of SV etc) and don't remember it doing it this before.

Guess I should double check stupid changes, weird I can't delete the attached image
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Addons aren't a crutch, they're tools to be abused by skilled players to increase performance. Like a carpenter using a hammer, a fisherman using a lure, or Xi using curse words.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:16 AM   #11
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Acustar: they mentioned that in the patch notes.

edit: ah - under the priest notes "* Shadow Word: Death: Cooldown increased to 12 sec and will now properly damage the casting Priest when it is reflected."

Last edited by Thelyna : 05/23/07 at 12:17 AM. Reason: adding the line from the notes.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:17 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Acustar View Post
Shadow Word: Death is dealing damage twice if it's reflected. I tested before (final boss of SV etc) and don't remember it doing it this before.

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I think that was intentional, I could have sworn reading something about SWD damage being fixed on reflected spells, lemme see it I can find it

edit: beaten, but quote anyway
* Shadow Word: Death: Cooldown increased to 12 sec and will now properly damage the casting Priest when it is reflected.

You can't call a planet Bob!
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You were missing the () at the end of Feral Charge (Bear), this is necessary otherwise WoW thinks you're trying to cast Feral Charge Rank Bear.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:20 AM   #13
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Leotheras:

1.) Human phase is 15 seconds shorter. He still can whirlwind twice though which means he very often does demon transition while whirlwinding.

2.) The cooldown for insidious whispers does not seem to have been adjusted to account for the human phase being shorter. The result is he will cast 15 seconds later than he would have, which means at the outside edge he can cast it late enough that you have inner demonds up 15 seconds into the human phase. This can be VERY problematic.

3.) You cannot LOS Insidious Whispers at all.

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Old 05/23/07, 12:23 AM   #14
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The floating damage numbers now seem lower on the screen, making it easier to see when I'm tanking.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:26 AM   #15
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You will agro packs if you attempt to WW to tide (the one where you jump over to the main platform after the colossus.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:28 AM   #16
 frmorrison
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The new equip compare tooltip was bugged out for me, so I delete itemcache.mdb and now the tooltips are back to normal.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:31 AM   #17
Lybydose
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Lurker's first spout after resurfacing is targetting people based on aggro, wiping the raid within seconds.

Lurker's geyser ability will randomly hit a random person for frost damage (like normal), but the knockback effect will ALWAYS hit the primary aggro target.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 12:33 AM   #18
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Lurker is definitely geysering the person hes hitting now. If you stand by the normal tank spot, on the small shred of land just to the right of you as close to the inner circle as possible, he will geyser you and you will remain on the platform and if you run forward immediately you will keep getting hit and keep hitting him. Just make sure you have healers who can heal you when you're knocked back. Whirl + Geyser combo knocks you off, just intercept.

His spout did feel like it was moving alot faster, but that could be an "Onyxia Deep Breaths More" feeling. He was coming up about 5 seconds earlier for us, also the pets no longer bug out and despawn or don't attack, you get all the pets every submerge and they all attack.

No clue if lurker was targetting the highest aggro when he emerges, I always taunt him as soon as he comes up just in case anyways from a spot where whirl wont knock me off.

Hydross's HPs seemed the same (3.6 mil) but the pets went down twice as fast for us, we fried him at like the 8 minute mark effortlessly.

Rager hps are only 30k instead of 100k, aoe em down now. Acid Geyser seems to hit for twice as much damage now though?

Coilfang Priestesses are now sheepable.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:16 AM   #19
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Hunter's Mark consistantly stacks now if you have different ranks of improved hunter's mark (or any and none, as is more likely)
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:34 AM   #20
Trohck
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Hydross transitions are more variable and his hitbox appears to have changed. Moving from Poison to Frost then back to Poison in less than a second during transitions.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:36 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Igniter View Post
You will agro packs if you attempt to WW to tide (the one where you jump over to the main platform after the colossus.
You can avoid them, just pay more attention to their patrols. We did successfully tonight.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:36 AM   #22
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Is anyone else crashing to desktop while alt tabbing out, or tabbing back in? It seems whenever I alt tab back into the game now I have about a 25% chance of crashing to desktop, and sometimes I crash when I alt tab out as well. Extremely irritating.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:42 AM   #23
 Gwaihir
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Anyone getting numerous UI bugs?

Unit frame bugs, of the sort that getting put in to combat will not allow you to see a target, or focus target, or target of target if you did not have that specific UI window before entering target.

Also, raid icons are disapeering seemingly at random, either for the entire group, or only for a few people.
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:52 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Gwaihir View Post
Anyone getting numerous UI bugs?

Unit frame bugs, of the sort that getting put in to combat will not allow you to see a target, or focus target, or target of target if you did not have that specific UI window before entering target.

Also, raid icons are disapeering seemingly at random, either for the entire group, or only for a few people.
update your addons?
 
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Old 05/23/07, 1:52 AM   #25
Savos
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Weapon skill rating seems to be having a display issue or something, as for the moment 1 skill rating is equal to 1 weapon skill point, so with the tank mace off Lurker with 14 weapon skill rating, I'm running 364 weapon skill with maces.
 
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