UI and Bars not updating when in combat - yes. If you have AutoBar update it - there was a taint issue reported
Pewsey has heard about tact and discretion, but tends to regard them much as children view vegetables.
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We had a clean Maulgar, no Krosh bugs. Gruul was sometimes hurtfulling #2 threat, and sometimes #3*. (*actually I shouldn't say that definitively, I was healing and not watching ktm) His cooldowns seem to be changed, we had the first shatter well before deadly boss mods said it should have been, and the same with several silences.
Major mageblood potions that had been crafted before the patch are not listed as "guardian", I didn't get a chance to see if they were stackable or not.
Shadowfiend seems to not always attack automatically, try adding a /petattack if it doesn't.
There are new animations on prayer of mending, fade, inner focus, mass dispel, and a new icon on mark of the wild. Shadow and moonkin forms use a different spellbar now? (I am not either of those, only heard about it)
Soulwells make the soul shard ding noise even if you can't pick up another stone.
People all over my guild had problems with chat channels, people had a channel number unavailable, kind of like when you're in /trade but outside of town...couldn't change it or anything though, and it throws all your normal channels off by one.
Raid icons (usually if not only the star) are appearing sometimes on one's target frame, but not on the target itself, even when outside a raid.
Last edited by drowsy : 05/25/07 at 1:42 PM.
Reason: It was too ugly, apparantly
One more note about Lurker, you cannot attack the Guardians for a good 5 seconds longer then before. Before you could jump em coming outta the water, now they move up onto the platform and inwards a bit then sit there for a second before you can swing at them.
Had issues opening many default ui pages in combat today (Friends/Who/Guild/Raid), only thing I could imagine is a skinner issue....
And yeah, my chat channel 1 is completely unavailable and I'm yet to find a way to free it up.
Just killed him with this mechanic. We had a rogue maintain 2nd on aggro and our normal HS target stay in 3rd. It took some creative aggro control by the rogue (Blessing of Salvation removal/reapplication, feint).
It also felt like he did cave-in *more*, and shatters hurt more...but I also think that's a "more deep breaths this patch" type of thing.
Ignite is rolling for Fire Mages. Invisibility breaks when you start casting a spell, instead of when you finish casting it (means we can't have 2-second aggro wipe anymore, and have to spend the full 5-6 seonds not DPSing).
Edit: Wasn't attentive enough to the damage numbers. Ignite didn't change. Sorry.
Last edited by Setia : 05/23/07 at 2:47 AM.
Reason: Really should learn to check my things twice before posting.
Could you elaborate? Still some time untill the EU servers are up but this is certainly news to me, I specifically tested this on PTR some time ago and it was still borked with DMG not stacking correctly.
Last edited by Vhad : 05/23/07 at 2:17 AM.
Reason: english > me
Engaging solarian aggro's all the packs in her room. It turned out to not be so bad as those trash packs are really easy and we got 3 nether vortex's from clearing the room.
Solarian's AM seem to be like aran now and will target anyone.
sry if its spam, i only quoted the pve bugs/changes (how ever you want to call it xD)
and summed them up ...
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Gruul, of course, has been reported to be Hurtful Striking the third aggro target, rather than the second.
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Lurker changes we noticed:
1.) He comes up early, maybe 10-20 seconds earlier.
2.) Adds in the middle are no longer MCable.
3.) The damage from Geyser can hit anyone in the raid including people on platforms, but the knocback ALWAYS hits his primary target (tank) causing your tank to be knocked back 50% of the time or so, making threat generation very difficult.
4.) Can't confirm this, but spout seems to be going faster.
5.) The adds no longer despawn, but in cases where they would respawn they move to their original spawn location.
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Leotheras:
1.) Human phase is 15 seconds shorter. He still can whirlwind twice though which means he very often does demon transition while whirlwinding.
2.) The cooldown for insidious whispers does not seem to have been adjusted to account for the human phase being shorter. The result is he will cast 15 seconds later than he would have, which means at the outside edge he can cast it late enough that you have inner demonds up 15 seconds into the human phase. This can be VERY problematic.
3.) You cannot LOS Insidious Whispers at all.
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Hydross's HPs seemed the same (3.6 mil) but the pets went down twice as fast for us, we fried him at like the 8 minute mark effortlessly.
Hydross transitions are more variable and his hitbox appears to have changed. Moving from Poison to Frost then back to Poison in less than a second during transitions.
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Engaging solarian aggro's all the packs in her room. It turned out to not be so bad as those trash packs are really easy and we got 3 nether vortex's from clearing the room.
Solarian's AM seem to be like aran now and will target anyone.
Is anyone else crashing to desktop while alt tabbing out, or tabbing back in? It seems whenever I alt tab back into the game now I have about a 25% chance of crashing to desktop, and sometimes I crash when I alt tab out as well. Extremely irritating.
Happen to me at least twice tonight, no clue why.
Originally Posted by drowsy
People all over my guild had problems with chat channels, people had a channel number unavailable, kind of like when you're in /trade but outside of town...couldn't change it or anything though, and it throws all your normal channels off by one.
I threw a fit about the channel problem, figured out (some of it anyway) was the new LFG channel, you have to join bliz's LFG locator, THEN you can manually /leave lookingforgroup, which will open up that 'invisible' channel. I had some problems as well with the worlddefense channel randomly taking over a few channels. Extremely irritating to say the least.
Originally Posted by Setia
Ignite is rolling for Fire Mages. Invisibility breaks when you start casting a spell, instead of when you finish casting it (means we can't have 2-second aggro wipe anymore, and have to spend the full 5-6 seonds not DPSing).
Whoa, are we talking Nax-era rolling ignites?
Originally Posted by Sebudai
Addons aren't a crutch, they're tools to be abused by skilled players to increase performance. Like a carpenter using a hammer, a fisherman using a lure, or Xi using curse words.
Did I misunderstand the patch change? I understand HS is now apparently hitting 3rd on aggro, or randomly, whatever. But I thought his difficulty (otherwise) wasn't supposed to go up - it seems like in addition to changed cast probabilities, (I know, insert deep breath joke here), the frequency or delays are down. Instead of it feeling like "Cave in less, others filling the gap", it felt like "Everything more."
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Noticed that warlock pets have their mana/health adjusted everytime after getting resummoned when dismounting... meaning you can dark pact it to zero, mount, dismount and it will return with full mana. I know they fixed dark pacting before the stat adjustment in this patch, although it seems you can still do that if you time it perfectly as well.
Hes very doable, use the spot I mentioned earlier as the MT and the geyser will keep you on the platform, you should be a step to the right of the water area by the column (So you don't get burned) and as close as possible to him without getting burned, he will knock you back and you will remain in range of him and on the platform as long as you immediately step forward.
Expect slightly more trouble with the adds, and make sure your healers are far enough up to heal the tank when hes knocked away. Make sure you have a second tank with solid aggro for a whirl + geyser combo, as that will knock you off.
Hes very doable, use the spot I mentioned earlier as the MT and the geyser will keep you on the platform, you should be a step to the right of the water area by the column (So you don't get burned) and as close as possible to him without getting burned, he will knock you back and you will remain in range of him and on the platform as long as you immediately step forward.
Expect slightly more trouble with the adds, and make sure your healers are far enough up to heal the tank when hes knocked away. Make sure you have a second tank with solid aggro for a whirl + geyser combo, as that will knock you off.
Is ranged agro still irrelevant on this fight?
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Hes very doable, use the spot I mentioned earlier as the MT and the geyser will keep you on the platform, you should be a step to the right of the water area by the column (So you don't get burned) and as close as possible to him without getting burned, he will knock you back and you will remain in range of him and on the platform as long as you immediately step forward.
Expect slightly more trouble with the adds, and make sure your healers are far enough up to heal the tank when hes knocked away. Make sure you have a second tank with solid aggro for a whirl + geyser combo, as that will knock you off.
Did you not get the instant-wipe bug? The constant knockbacks aren't a problem, but as soon as he resurfaces after the first wave of adds, his spout ability decides to completely bug out and start "targetting" people. He will just turn to someone and shoot spout as that person until he's dead, then move on to someone else. He never actually stops spouting - a 2nd wave of adds will come and he will still be sitting there spouting.
Did you not get the instant-wipe bug? The constant knockbacks aren't a problem, but as soon as he resurfaces after the first wave of adds, his spout ability decides to completely bug out and start "targetting" people. He will just turn to someone and shoot spout as that person until he's dead, then move on to someone else. He never actually stops spouting - a 2nd wave of adds will come and he will still be sitting there spouting.
this bug also existed before patch
after dive nobody has to do an offensive action on him, caus if someone does so, he can bug, and spouts threw the aggro list, so only start doing spells on him until he started spout
Could you elaborate? Still some time untill the EU servers are up but this is certainly news to me, I specifically tested this on PTR some time ago and it was still borked with DMG not stacking correctly.
My bad. Tested it more, and I was wrong. I apologize.
Can any Hunters or Warlocks report their pet findings on Gruul in 2.1? I'm hearing mixed things about how pets are affected now - some people report pets are now Shattering and causing damage, and others saying they are no longer affected by Gronn Lord's Grasp at all.
05/23/07, 1:54 AM
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