One more note about Lurker, you cannot attack the Guardians for a good 5 seconds longer then before. Before you could jump em coming outta the water, now they move up onto the platform and inwards a bit then sit there for a second before you can swing at them.

Had issues opening many default ui pages in combat today (Friends/Who/Guild/Raid), only thing I could imagine is a skinner issue....

And yeah, my chat channel 1 is completely unavailable and I'm yet to find a way to free it up.

Ignite is rolling for Fire Mages. Invisibility breaks when you start casting a spell, instead of when you finish casting it (means we can't have 2-second aggro wipe anymore, and have to spend the full 5-6 seonds not DPSing).

Edit: Wasn't attentive enough to the damage numbers. Ignite didn't change. Sorry.

Chat channel issues appear to be related to Blizzard reserving a chat channel number for the LookingForGroup channel.

Could you elaborate? Still some time untill the EU servers are up but this is certainly news to me, I specifically tested this on PTR some time ago and it was still borked with DMG not stacking correctly.

sry if its spam, i only quoted the pve bugs/changes (how ever you want to call it xD)
and summed them up ...

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Gruul, of course, has been reported to be Hurtful Striking the third aggro target, rather than the second.
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Lurker changes we noticed:

1.) He comes up early, maybe 10-20 seconds earlier.

2.) Adds in the middle are no longer MCable.

3.) The damage from Geyser can hit anyone in the raid including people on platforms, but the knocback ALWAYS hits his primary target (tank) causing your tank to be knocked back 50% of the time or so, making threat generation very difficult.

4.) Can't confirm this, but spout seems to be going faster.

5.) The adds no longer despawn, but in cases where they would respawn they move to their original spawn location.
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Leotheras:

1.) Human phase is 15 seconds shorter. He still can whirlwind twice though which means he very often does demon transition while whirlwinding.

2.) The cooldown for insidious whispers does not seem to have been adjusted to account for the human phase being shorter. The result is he will cast 15 seconds later than he would have, which means at the outside edge he can cast it late enough that you have inner demonds up 15 seconds into the human phase. This can be VERY problematic.

3.) You cannot LOS Insidious Whispers at all.
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Hydross's HPs seemed the same (3.6 mil) but the pets went down twice as fast for us, we fried him at like the 8 minute mark effortlessly.

Hydross transitions are more variable and his hitbox appears to have changed. Moving from Poison to Frost then back to Poison in less than a second during transitions.
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Engaging solarian aggro's all the packs in her room. It turned out to not be so bad as those trash packs are really easy and we got 3 nether vortex's from clearing the room.

Solarian's AM seem to be like aran now and will target anyone.

Happen to me at least twice tonight, no clue why.

I threw a fit about the channel problem, figured out (some of it anyway) was the new LFG channel, you have to join bliz's LFG locator, THEN you can manually /leave lookingforgroup, which will open up that 'invisible' channel. I had some problems as well with the worlddefense channel randomly taking over a few channels. Extremely irritating to say the least.

Whoa, are we talking Nax-era rolling ignites?

Yeah, I paid 23g with nothing yellow tonight

Regarding Gruul:

Did I misunderstand the patch change? I understand HS is now apparently hitting 3rd on aggro, or randomly, whatever. But I thought his difficulty (otherwise) wasn't supposed to go up - it seems like in addition to changed cast probabilities, (I know, insert deep breath joke here), the frequency or delays are down. Instead of it feeling like "Cave in less, others filling the gap", it felt like "Everything more."

Noticed that warlock pets have their mana/health adjusted everytime after getting resummoned when dismounting... meaning you can dark pact it to zero, mount, dismount and it will return with full mana. I know they fixed dark pacting before the stat adjustment in this patch, although it seems you can still do that if you time it perfectly as well.

Murlocs on Morogrim definitely seemed like hp was lower. His hp was unchanged.

Karathress is unchanged.

Hydross appears to be a lot more stable on his tripline.

The Watery Globules on Morogrim definitely freeze you now if you get sloppy.


Can anyone elaborate on lurker? Is it doable or clearly bugged out the wazoo? (Not that it wasn't before, but those were good bugs)

Is ranged agro still irrelevant on this fight?