• DeeNogger

Its my understanding that Arms can no longer compete in a raid dps setting since the change to WF totem. Respecing to fury could produce a massive increase in performance.







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panny

Why, hello Mediic.

Thanks for the tips. Snaily is a pretty new recruit, so i'm sure he'd be willing to work at his DPS more. He did alot better next raid: Loading...

I'm not sure if the difference between our mages can be explained just with spec. Shiven is the cookie-cutter raid fire spec, and still can be fairly low on damage. Also, I think our strat for Lurker differs from yours. We keep two Guardians sheeped and only kill one each phase. It's not until Lurker is dead that we finish off the other two. Consequently, alot of our mages are focused on keeping their add sheeped.

We used to have one Hunter that would be decent damage-wise, but once I linked them to Hunter Shot Rotation Illustrated thread they started their own discussions and are now almost always the top 5.

P.S. How's Mariomario doing? ;D

 

UnholY_Prince

Well, his DPS was like this even before the WF change, though he had slightly worse gear at the time. His gear upgrades have been trivial though, I feel there's a larger problem here than just his Arms choice, given the raid buffs he receives.

 

Mishdan

Hello EJ,
After stagnating for a while recently due to lack of attendance etc, our raid finally downed VR last weekend. I was just wondering if anyone could possibly give me some advice to relay about any aspect of our kill, be it DPS/healing or tanking.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

Sephira VR WWS

 

Bliss

Browsing the combat log, he is not using slam correctly at all, and he is using hamstring way more than he should. Many of his slams are coming 2+ seconds after a white swing, which is what will cause his huge rage starvation and low dps. He needs to get a swing timer mod and slam immediately after a white swing. Using a rotation like

White Slam MS, White Slam WW, White Slam MS, White Slam X, repeat

Where the x is Battle/Demo Shout, maybe Overpower depending on current rage.

EDIT: Also, his trinkets are horrible. He really needs to get Hourglass and try for Bloodlust Brooch. His leg enchant is horrible for dps, and should be replaced by the ap/crit one. The gem in his helm should be replaced, both of them. Both of the hit/agi gems in his chest should be replaced along with the +150hp enchant.(+6 all stats) The gem in the red slot in his bracers should be 8str. His neck is pretty bad for dps. And he needs Aldor exalted.

 

UnholY_Prince

Thank you, exactly the critique I was looking for. I think he's still trying to have a bastardized hybrid PVP/PVE spec, either that or he simply doesn't know what the best stats for maximizing himself are.

I'll push him towards downloading Quartz, and regeming and enchanting his gear, along with upgrading his trinkets, and of course looking at his rotation. Thanks a bunch.

 

snarl

Another arms dps warrior here. I would appreciate if anyone could offer any advice on boosting my dps as I've read about players sporting 33/28 Blood frenzy/flurry builds surpassing 1k dps with proper buffs and 800 dps without windfury, but I can't seem to get anywhere near that. I follow the "White Slam MS, White Slam WW" rotation as closely as possible, with a Demo shout here and there. Am I doing something wrong or is it my gear? I only have Gorehowl/Stormherald to choose between and I am using at least 3 pieces of arena gear

Without enhance+feral
Lurker: Wow Web Stats
Leo: Wow Web Stats

With enhance+feral
Solarian: Wow Web Stats
Vashj: Wow Web Stats

Btw the other dps warrior in the reports is 2h Fury, and we are about the same gear wise, except of course the huge AP difference rampage+Imp berserker stance provides. He is doing the type of dps I thought 2h arms would be capable of.

 

dhegin

Mordicai is using shiv spam to dps.......... He's spec'd for daggers, no points in Oppurtunity or Imp. Backstab, so it's safe to say he is "Shiv Spec'd" for raiding. Don't know if he is testing the spec, but it's probably a good start to use a real raiding spec.

Avaro just wasn't hitting Void Reaver, seems like he was doing the step-in/step-out thing, which is really detrimental to overall dps on this fight. I can tell from damage recieved that Mordicai was eating the poundings, any reason why Avaro wasn't? Also, there are about 4-5 talent points Avaro could move around to boost his raid dps.(5/5 Opp, 3/3 Imp Backstab, 2/2 Weapon Expertise)

From the buffs recieved from the melee classes, I'm going to assume the Melee group makeup was Arms Warrior, 2xComat rogues, Feral, Enh Shaman. Where's the windfury?
-Sidenote: Darkranger is listed as a warrior on WWS for some reasion...

Being in a melee group that is so stacked for your rogues(Enh Shaman, Battleshout, Lotp) 850+ DPS is a VERY attainable goal for their gear level.

 

Mishdan

Thanks for the reply Dhegin.

Will ask why Mordi was using a shiv spec, especially on a poison immune mob.

Thanks for picking that up about Avaro, running in/out was not our strat, melee were told to stay in for poundings (hence the CoH priest >.>).

Also, from looking at buffs received, the melee group had TA down instead of WF, so I assume some/all of them were having trouble staying under our 3 tanks.

And yes, I'd noticed Dark was down as a warr, not sure how that happened, not my log :P

 

• giansm

We have found that rather than tranquil air, it helps to give DPS warriors windfury totem and a soulstone on Void Reaver. For an example look at Labone on this WWS, the first time we tried it: WWS. He pulls aggro and dies about halfway through but resses himself and keeps on going.

 

menglor

Hey guys, I am looking for some info from smarter people then I, and I am told they all hang out here.

I am trying to understand the definition of the "presense" in left Column.

Wow Web Stats

As an example of what I am trying to understand.

But before everyone goes off and gives me the text book answer, I should point out.

1 - This log file is from the user Pairewinkle.
2 - His is the ONLY log file thats being parsed.

3 - His presense is 61%.

4 - I have been told over and over, that presense isnt a reflection of being Dead.


So my question is, if your the one providing the log, and your the only one, shouldnt your presense represent 100%?



Maybe I am missing something,

 

vyedma

Presence is the % of the fight that you were alive. Whoever told you otherwise needs to check their facts.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

 

dhegin

No problem @ Mishdan, and yes, I apparently overlooked Tranquil Air.

As a guild we're fairly new to SSC encounters and I'm looking for advice/critiques (if neccesary) for anything tanking/dps/healing wise. We've had 3 Lurker kills, and the last two weeks have been one shots, again, just looking for any advice if possible.

Lurker - Wow Web Stats
Tidewalker - Wow Web Stats (I had 5 graves /wrist)

Melee group was 3xRogue, War, MM hunter. Caster group was 3xMage, SPriest, Destro lock.

Thanks in advance.

 

Grymm

Snarl: I looked at your lurker kill as I just did Lurker last night. Other than Felsteel Battle Helm and a Talon of Azshara, I have no post-Gruul DPS drops. I'm specced cookie-cutter 17/44 fury. Our raid DPS is higher than yours (most of my guild outgears me for DPS some significantly) so our fight was shorter. Over our fight (and I died during execute phase to running back in after a whirl faster than the tank), I averaged 120 more DPS than you. Some of it isn't your fault. You don't have windfury which is fairly essential for a 2hand arms warrior. I didn't armory you, but you don't have deathwish? You also did not have a feral druid. My max white crit using a one hander was 1870 while yours was 1840. PVP gear is nice, but equal ilvl PVE gear will beat it. WWS isn't giving me an armory icon for you and I am lazy.

 

Telemont

Bleh, I confused myself between Presence and DPS Time. A deletion would be welcome.

 

Lenala

Thanks for the feedback, one of the rogues I believe you're talking about is a fresh recruit with a few pieces of Kara loot and some blues/greens so it is to be expected. Although I believe the other rogue you're talking about on VR recently got [Dragonspine Trophy], surprising to me that he's still behind by that much.

Would like more input about our casters/tanks/healers, thank you.

 

righ

There are out tonight ssc kills:
Lurker
Leo
Fathom
Morogrim
Few unnecessary wipes thought. I'd love to see someone smart check few players for me: Xeri, Sachmet, Kirkegård. Their dps looks rather bad on some kills. Anyother feedback much apprenticed. Thanks in advance.

 

Iro

Well Xeri got boned on Lurker. He sat in Scalding water for a long time, I assume for a spout then copped a geyser and died on the way back. His DPS on Morogrim is pretty respectable for not having WF totem but I am not sure on the merits of Anasthetic Poison on a Boss like Morogrim. Is it possible he forgot to change his poison application from Karathress?

Kirkegard is also frost. Not having armory links and my lack of ability to do those funny characters means I can't check his gear but he would probably have a better result switching to the commonly popular 10/48/3 spec as discussed everywhere.

 

snarl

Yeah we are about the same gear wise. I do have deathwish so I must have forgotten to use it on some of the fights. Aside from Deathwish is there anything else I can do to improve? I think if I had WF+SoE+UR+LotP I would be able to cover that 120dps difference between us. I'm really looking to see what the 33/28 warrs breaking 1k dps are doing differently.

 

Kronos

We did VR early as people tend to get distracted later on in the evening.
This was our 3rd Kill ever.
Wow Web Stats

Rogues had windfury for portions of the fight.

There were only 2 tanks so rogues were threat capped, even with constant misdirections.

We do OK, but I know we can do much better.

I actually wasn't wearing my hit gear for some dumb reason that fight, not that it really would have mattered, because I was threat capped, but still. I Normally have hit capped.

 

Nekrataal

Could you please give us some advice, i always have the feeling, that our dps could be much better than it actually is. And when i compare our stats with kills from other guilds dps is usually much higher than ours. So here are two actual Kills.

Solarian
Void Reaver

Things worth to mention: Obafemi tried a Mace-spec this night, he is usually better.

Thanks in advance

 

Kronos

First thing that pops out of my head, is why did the shaman put down flametongue, he should always use windfury.
Looks like Obafemi is spec'd for partial pvp maces or something as you said. I'm sure he'd do better, even with maces, if he spec'd out of Master of Deception. He should also shoot for more hit rating, 219 is pretty low.

Agonie had terrible dps time, his hit is low, he just needs to cast more I'd guess. I don't know much about warlocks though.

 

Stosh

We're mostly a small, family type guild that likes to raid with dreams of eventually doing 25man encounters in the near future. Right now, we're still doing Kara, and I'm going to link last night's Prince win to see if there are any glaring things that might make us better.

Wow Web Stats

Thank you.

 

Docjowles

Your two frost mages are going to be artificially low on damage (though not by a *huge* amount) because you can't attribute the water elemental to them.

Triksie has some lame/cheap enchants; spellpower on bracers and either spellpower or the +hit enchant on her gloves would be much better. She needs much more +hit; [Scryer's Bloodgem] would be a good trinket to buy, and the blue quality +hit gems are pretty affordable on the AH. The biggest problem, though, is that she doesn't seem to have spent that much time DPSing. Magusrex got off 13 more Frostbolts in the same amount of time.

Syridia is doing a great job, but could try to fit more casts in too. To be fair, he has the added burden of keeping Imp Scorch up by himself. Make sure they all use /stopcasting macros, and fire blast when running from an orb to maximize damage.

 

Iro

I am going to focus on your two weakest performers.

Your shadow priest REALLY needs to look at his spell rotations. Only 5 mindflay ticks is really odd and probably because he over estimated the dangers of Shadow Nova. He can still get in MF casts and run away if he is enfeebled. There really isn't any reason he should be forsaking Mindflay for personal safety on this fight as the dangers are negligible if you are careful about running in and out.

Arlian is also a really Oddball spec, looking like a mix of PVP and what not. He should probably be looking at speccing BM this early into raiding and making use of its strengths. His shot rotation is also really suffering by using Aimed shot which is resetting the auto shot cooldown and killing his DPS. I am not sure if he had his buttons confused but only having 2 steady shots for 5 minutes of DPS is a glaring fault. There are many Hunter theorycrafting threads on these forums he should be directed too.