Sorry...that's what a 13 hour work day gets me. Yes, that was looking at Kathas.

A little about you then:

Saheera dropped WF totems, yet no rogue had the buff on. Did you have her in a melee group? If so, you didn't sharpen your main hand did you? That totem is a massive dps increase, and if you had it on the 2nd attempt and not this one, that would explain most of your dps loss.

Your gear is good for where you are at in raiding. You are using your CDs whenever they are up. And 1s/5r(e) is your most optimal rotation until you lose 2/4 T4. All good there.

Lack of WF totem is the only possible problem I can see.

I hope this one helps more than my last post.../facepalm

Edit** You had your shaman WF the tanks. While this would help them gain a little more rage, she would be more effective in a group with her, 3x rogues, and a fury warrior.

- Balmong of The Valiant
Silverhand

Don't sig. We can see who you are by the info to the left of your post.

Also, 5s/5e (snd cut) is a better DPS cycle than 1s/5e when rupture doesn't work (trash mobs, Void Reaver, Hydross). The one exception is *possibly* during Hydross adds if you're Blade Flurrying the adds on top of Hydross (evisc is a nice big hit that you can double with BF getting people back on track quicker).

Our latest Morogrim and Karathess guild, karathress being our third kill.

Morogrim:
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Karathress:
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I am mainly interested in an analasys of our ranged DPS, mostly of our warlocks though criticism of the others is of course welcome too. I feel that the DPS of our warlocks is usually rather low, they have been trying to improve it but I thought it would be a good idea to bring a few WWS parses here for better advice.

I already noticed I messed up a bit with some of the 'actors', spitfire totem labeled as a pet instead of a mob and a grounding totem labeled as a mob.

This is the WWS of our last SSC clear, its an instance we have heavily on farm now so its largely a chance for people to show there dps to its best as we know the fights and can largely do them without worry. The issue i have is that our Mages seem to really under perform compared to other classes and i cant work out why due to my complete indifference to cloth dps and general lack of knowledge with regards to it. The gear lvl is about the same throughout on 90% of the raiders and our Mages constantly being so outdpsd confuses me. Any help appreciated so i can pretend i know what im on about when i bring this up again.

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*edit*The overall dmg isn't v useful as we swapped ppl in etc so ignoring that if possible. *edit*

Agatio:
Look at the use of SoC and you see how one warlock so badly outpaced the other 2 (for Morogrim). He didn't even get a CoA/CoD. Mages and Warlocks on that fight really need to apply their efforts to doing a lot of AoE dmg.

On fathomlord, all 3 rogues used deadly/instant poison despite having an enhancement shaman. At least your warrior didn't sharpen his weapons.

Frich needs to use rupture more and Envenom/Evis less (Morogrim mostly)

Arbes is using incinerate and trying to be a firelock. Make him stop, it's embarassing. Get him to switch his crit gems to hit gems and hit cap, and switch to pretty much shadowbolt spam, and DS'ing a succubus. Swap in scryer's blood gem for xi'ri to help with hit capping. He should be good from there.

Exila seems undergeared. Her spec in the WWS is different than what she has in the armory, so I can't comment on that. Get her to make 2/2 Spellstrike and dump the voidheart crown/trial-fire browsers. Get her to hitcap. Her DoT uptime is a little weird, confirm she's using a DoTimer and is using stopcasting.

Juh seems undergeared too, moreso than Exila. Get him to make 2/2 spellstrike too. His DoT uptime is quite a bit better than Exila's. A lot of his lost DPS is to using drain life instead of shadowbolt. Guess he's not trusting your healers much. Get him do drop drain life in general and use shadowbolt at all times, the lost DPS isn't worth it and it's more than likely a trust issue with his healers that he's using it.

Confirm evreyone is using stopcasting too on their shadowbolts. In general, your warlocks are not a lost cause, but could use some proper guidance. There's a few other little problems here and there, but these are the major milestones.

I suppose its 'farm' content (though it took 3 tries), but your spriest can do alot more dps on tidewalker if he uses more than just 1 mana pot.

A quick glance at your parses shows quite a performance difference between your 3 warlocks. Sorhia and Pazzuzu have significantly lower damage than Kerena. Partly it's due to weaker gear I think (just going off the size of the average SB hit), but if you look at their spell usage, Kerena simply casts a *lot* more spells than the other two.

Usually this problem is an easy one to fix - point it out to the players and simply being aware of the difference often causes a significant improvement in dps.

As an example; on hydross Kerena cast 51 SB and 84 SoC, compared to Sorhia 42 SB, 49 SoC. Pazzuzu died so his numbers are obviously not comparable.
On Karathress you can see a similar difference in cast count.

Thanks for the catch. I'll point that out to 'em. Kerena's awesome at maximizing usage of the GCD and stuff - I'll see if he can give them any tips.

I looked over the two rogues, yourself and Wraith. Both of you could stand to use blade flurry more often. You seem to do well with rotations and stuff, Wraith needs some help. His rupture uptime is really bad.. likely due to using Envenom and Evis way too much. Also, I can't for the life of me figure out why his combat potency is so much lower than yours. He has excellent hit rating (yours seems to be low due to pvpish trinkets/gloves) and an identical offhand. The only difference is the speed of your MH which would skew the percentage of MH:OH swings in your "Melee hits".. but hardly at all.

In general you have a higher dps uptime (Leo is skewed a lot due to you throwing at him during whirls.. it cost you ~24k dmg taken :P), and a higher combat potency proc chance. This lack of energy would definitely cut back on Wraiths ability to Rupture.. hurt even further by Envenom/Evis usage. I noticed on Morogrim you got 3x WG, yet still get more hits in on Moro than Wraith.

Also on Vahsj.. that was some crappy luck :P. From what I can tell you got hit by the toxic spores as she moved away from you guys, spun and multi-shot you, then you had 2 ticks of spores. Sucky.

Oh, and on Fathomlord.. if you can get a shaman to shock, its a lot easier than having you kick. Difficult for a resto sham (but possible.. I've seen one solo heal the priest corner and shock), easiest for an ele sham. She got off 3 heals.. obviously your raid dps handled it fine, but its still annoying.

Heh, I logged out in my Strath farming gear last night after getting shards/orbs for my noobwar's crusaders. I use the DFT/DST and Deathmantle gloves, normally, so 259 hit + 15 weapon skill.

The extra hits/CP procs may be attributable to the fact that I tend to try to stack haste effects - blowing BF when Haste/Lighting Speed are up, for example. No other explaination beyond that. I do tend to save every other BF for Adrenaline Rush to coincide with the murlocs on Morogrim - getting the most for my money, as it were, so there's BF downtime there. Other targets, yeah, I should be using it more.

I'll make the resto shaman suggestion for Fathomlord - thanks for the tip.

And yeah, Vashj sucked ass. I got instagibbed.

Edit: I got my revenge though.

wooo, First Lurker Kill. We had 3 shadow priests and 0 warlocks was a very strange raid set up but we killed him so thats all that matters.

Any advice would be great as usual

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Thanks again

My guild is currently 5/6 SSC and 1/4 TK with Al'ar hopefully dying soon(best attempt was about 15-20%) I was hoping for some feedback on our last SSC raids, since we'll be starting Vashj soon.

Lurker, Tidewalker, Karathress

Hydross, Leo

Ignore the Hydross wipes, as a guild we hadn't done in in a while due to losing a resist tank and we also had a lot of new people in the raid.

Please help me. I am co-guild leader of Blue Moon of Ner'zhul and it is driving me nuts trying to figure out why my raids DPS is so low in comparison to other guilds I have come to notice (such as Alpha of Ysera).

I host the webstats myself and our entire guild history can be found here: Wow Web Stats
Specifically though, Teron seems to be a good baseline: Wow Web Stats
Alpha's kill for comparison: Wow Web Stats

If anyone is willing to take a look in there and let me know what we can improve on, I would greatly appreciate it. For a baseline, what started me on this quest was looking at a webstats of Alpha's kill on Teron Gorefiend compared to our own. They are only 1 boss ahead of us (RoS, hopefully will be down Sunday for us) however on their Teron kill they had 8 healers (compared to our 7) yet as a raid dealt 1300 more dps than our highest kill. Specifically, in that kill I was doing 1147 DPS, yet the mages in Alpha were outdpsing me by approx 250dps with nearly comparable gear (ie, Terlin and I are both hit capped, and he has .32% higher crit and 31 higher damage according to armory).

I was expecting discrepancies like these between the very top guilds and ours, but when I actually did the research, it was even more skewed than I imagined (ie multiple people sustained 1600-2k DPS). I've also recently heard of a theory from a mage claiming to do 1600 sustained DPS as fire (which I thought was rather impractical) that when your raid's DPS goes up, your individual DPS does as well. If someone could explain this to me, that would be great, because I don't quite get it. As far as I can tell, my DPS should be independent of the rest of the raid. The debuffs don't scale and while more overall DPS would get the mob to 20% quicker allowing molten fury to kick in, it would also be in the 20-0 range for less time too, so there must be something I'm missing if that is true.

Anyway, thanks for your time.
Raencloud

Looking for a critique for myself. Feel free to critique the others if you want, but I know a few of them need a lot of work.

Curator Kill

Mana and cooldowns.

First off, dont sign your posts.

Now, if we compare you with the other mage, what do we notice:
- Terlin used Combustion more, which defenitly helped to achieve his higher actual crit rate.
- You got bad luck with the RNG, resulting in a low crit rate.
- He managed to use Icon 3 times in the same timeframe as you (you just twice)
- He didnt have to use Evocation (which means that he could easily reach more dps if he used AB more I think?)
- Terlin defenitly has better gear aswell, his avg fireball is 400 dmg higher then you. (dont forget his Crusader trinket!)
- He had to cast less scroches to keep up the stack (they evenly divide it between the 3 mages whereas in your case it looks your the only one responsible for keeping it up)

Not sure how partial resists work, but you had a ton of them aswell.

edit: not sure how combustion is displayed in WWS actually, could be that you just got pure crit strings when you popped it or so?

The combustion thing is because of the crits thing. I know I used it twice and there's no way he could have used it more than twice considering their kill was >5 minutes.

As fire mages, AB would not be something we would use, but that evocation would allow him to cast nearly 3 more fireballs which would somewhat affect dps. The scorch thing also makes some sense.

The fireball thing was a big worry of me, and I did remember his trinket (I believe I added 80 onto the armory score I saw, putting him up to 1180ish). However, I didn't account for the fact that we had the entire raid use our shadow resist necklace and cloak, which lowered my dmg and crit. Yesterday I was able to sustain 1290 DPS even with the neck/cloak on the first attempt which we wiped and on the rest I ended up with ghosts which messed up my numbers.

It just appears like I have to be a little more consistent with my rotations to maximize my DPS.

My guild just entered the Black Temple. I wanted to get some feedback on our stats based on our SSC run this week.

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TIA

They killed him faster (4::56 v 5:34), yet he did significantly more damage than you. His average ball hit for 424 more than your average, which is more than 10%. His max crit is 1000 more than yours and his crit % is 9% higher than yours. Maybe your gear is quite equal but even with equal gear there will be variances on crit % on single parses.

He has the Darkmoon Card:Crusade, which is pretty much the best deep fire trinket once stacked up, and that +80 doesn't show on his armory. He used Icon three times in their kill, and you used it twice even though your kill took longer.

Did you wear T4 2 piece for the interrupt bonus? It can get quite hairy with interrupts at Teron. Basically it seems like he got off more spells than you in less time, and he had 9% more crit.

Combustion. You got 4 buffs, which means you can't have used it twice. If you had used it twice you'd have at least 6 buffs shown in the log. You cast it and gain combustion, 1, you cast a spell that crits, 2, another spell crits 3, last spell crits, gone. So it should be at least 6 if you used it twice.

Your shadow priest did not use Mindflay or SW: D the entire time. On a fight like Curator it is a good idea to have your Shadow priest as a bolt soaker so the group gets constant mana returns.

A simple respec could help Chubycheeks if they intend to stay Destruction but Affliction is probably more gear friendly at this stage of raiding. Also using Conflag is generally considered to cut your dps rather than extend it though if he was killing Curator adds an exception could be made.

Kryvin only has one application of Slice and Dice. Now it is possible (I think with the way WWS) that he never had it drop though unlikely. He should be keeping it up as often as possible.

Riannis seems to be having similar spec issues to Chuby. Though the plan is there he/she seems to have misplaced or avoided some key talents. Perhaps a chat with them about a BM respec as like Affliction it is generally easier to manage on introduction level gear.

As my raid sometime has more than 55% physical damages on bosses, I suggested to my raid-mates to use this Recklessness instead of Agony but we aren't decided yet. I tried to gather informations on EJ, but the latest thread I've read is on archive status and people didn't seem to agree to each other so I'm not sure Recklessness worth an Agony.

I tried to harmstring Hydross last time, with 5 sunders it hitted at 42, 5 sunders + CoR + Deathwish, 54. Unfortunately, I have no records of harmstring with 5 sunders+CoR-DW. 80% of 54 (ie without Deathwish) gives me 43.2 but I don't know how the game will round it. Let's use this result, the difference between the two harmstring is 2.8%. Applying to the total physical damages (1 898 596), it gives me a difference of 53160 where the Agony of the Warlock did 51939. Not such a big difference, especially considering that AP from the boss is raised.

Does anyone has more precise values ? (sorry if I post in the wrong thread...)