Katte:

I just looked at your best Gruul attempt (try 5) and there was a lot she is doing wrong:

Her gear is pretty good although lacking a bit in hit. Her gem choice is pretty horrible. I'd suggest Veiled Noble Topaz or whatever the straight hit gems are to get hit up. All the pure crit and any gem with spell penetration on should definitely be replaced.

Spec wise it's an odd choice. Assuming she wants to go 40/21 (I'd probably suggest 10/48/3 if she was going to change) she should get rid of Imp. Arcane Missile and put the points in Arcane Focus and also move the points from Imp. Fireblast into Incinerate or Imp. Scorch (not really sure which - it's not really a great build either way).

Assuming she stays with the spec her spell rotation should be something like ABx2, AM, Scorch repeat. More AB if mana allows and spamming it if/when mana isn't an issue. If she switches to 10/48/3 she should be doing scorching until it's stacked and then Fireball x 7/8, Scorch repeat. She should definitely not casting non Presence of Mind Pyroblasts ever and Fireballs aren't optimal with that build either especially with no Imp. Scorch debuff.

Over the entire night, Zandorpol did only 58 shield slams and ZERO revenges. He really should be using them every time they're up.

7 healers is probably too much. Try dropping one for another DPS'er if possible.

Tyrant didn't do a single mindblast or SW: D.

Heka is combat daggers, yet only has 2/3 imp BS and no Opportunity. On attempt 5, she did 40 SS (should be zero) and only 16 Backstabs.

On attempt 5, Gruul parried 255 attacks, and only 29 were from Zandorpol. Tell your melee classes to stay behind him.

Tyrant needs a lot of work.

In the fight where Gruul took the most damage, the fight was from 03:29 to 03:37, but tyrant didnt start casting until 03:30'26 to 03:37'22. Other dps were going in at 03:30'02. I can only really speak for myself, but I havent found the need to wait a full 30 seconds into a fight until I start dpsing at all. Ten seconds is plenty long enough time to wait before dpsing, and he was only doing 376 dps, so threat shouldnt have been an issue at all with salvation.

Combat for him starts from 30'26 to 03:37'22, which is 6 minutes, 56 seconds of dps time, but he only has 6 minutes 3 seconds worth of SW:P ticks, and 5 minutes 24 seconds worth of VT time. This is bad, very bad for a shadow priest, as our main benefit is mana restoration to our group, and he is not doing this up to his potential. SW:P should be much higher, no more than 3 seconds without on Gruul, it lasts longer and is an instant, so youll only rarely be silenced or stoned and unable to cast when it drops.

VT is a bit harder to keep up on this fight, but it should be over 6 minutes at the very least here. With VT being so low, mostly it can be contributed to negligence on his part in keeping it up. He needs to cast VT 1.5 seconds plus latency before the spell ends when not silenced or stunned. Do not wait until the spell has concluded before casting it again, this will result in over 6 seconds lost without VT up per minute. All damage from a shadow priest should be done under VT, so he needs to focus on keeping it up much more than he is currently.

Looking at his log, he had 69 mind flay dots up, good for 69 seconds worth of combat time, 121 dots of swp, good for 16 gcds, or 24 seconds of combat time, 108 dots of VT, good for 22 casts at 1.5 seconds, for 33 seconds of combat time 7 VEs for 10.5 seconds, and on shadow fiend for 1.5 seconds for a total of 138 seconds of actual cast time. On fights where you arent running around crazy like Voidreaver, you should have more individual Mind Flay ticks than your dot ticks, not the other way around, and thats using a full swd/mind blast rotation. He needs to up his actual combat cast time a good bit, use Mind Blast, as its the best dps spell you have of your three nukes, swd, mindflay, and mind blast.

Again, for spell rotations etc, he has 5/5 imp mind blast but didnt cast a single one. Cast them, its a great spell. SW on Gruul for the first few growths, healers can throw a renew/lifebloom etc on you when they dont have anything to do. Hes undead but didnt cast devouring plague, use the spell, its great coupled with inner focus. Best thing to do is get inner focus and make a inner focus->Devouring plague macro.

For talents, he needs to put another point in shadow focus. The hit cap for spells is 16% to hit. As shadow priests, we cast a lot of spells, it needs to be at max, and having 5/5 points into shadow focus are a must. Drop Imp Psychic Scream and Silence, they are 5 man dungeon and pvp talents, they will not help you in 25 man raids. Get Inner Focus. If you use it coupled with Devouring Plague on cooldown, thats 32 mana per five seconds. If you use it with SWP on cooldown, thats 17 mana per five seconds. He does not need Improved Vampiric Embrace, its more aggro that he does not need for a marginal bit of extra healing. use the extra talent points and fill in Shadow Focus, Inner Focus, and then put any extra talent points in Shadow Power, every little bit helps. Why 5/5 silent resolve? I dont know of any 25 man raid bosses that dispel your dots, and the only holy/disc spell he should be using at all is shield to help himself at on occasion.

Put Soulfrost on your staff, or better yet, get a one hander so you can get an Orb of the Soul Eater. Im not sure what hes got on in place of that riding crop, but whatever it is, he should not be using Xi'ris Gift. He needs to have a Scryers Blood Gem and an Icon of the Silver Crescent on. He really needs to get closer to the hit cap, and that should help him. But better yet, get the Handwraps of Flowing Thought for hit over T4 gloves, they really are crap. Put 6 mana per five seconds on your chest and then put 15 spell damage to bracers on his wrists, as well as Subtlety to cloak, its common now.

That should do it for him, and help improve his dps a good bit, he should be sitting on 600-650 dps at least for his gear level, and that will close the gap.

This is the WWS from my guild's first Magtheridon kill tonight.

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We've been working on him for a couple weeks, and tonight we one-shotted him. I just started keeping combat logs, so this is the first WWS report I've done.

I'd appreciate any feedback or tips for anybody in the raid. This was only the second time we got him into phase 3 (wiped at 18% on Sunday), which might explain a lot of the debris deaths - I was one of them (though I assume this will get better as I see the fight more). One thing to note - Crenton was on clicking duty, which explains his lower DPS.

Thanks a lot!

Neftali: your druid, Toilet, isn't using an optimal DPS cycle. Rake has no place on a raid boss. He's also not Shredding very often -- maybe he was threat capped, maybe he just wasn't using his energy efficiently.

Additionally, his gear (at least what's up in the armory now) is an odd combination of tanking and DPS gear, not optimized for either role. If it's a combination he put together for channelers, he probably doesn't need to. The first add can be tanked in DPS gear; I usually tank the second in DPS gear plus a few pieces of PvP gear and an Ironskin potion for crit immunity. Later adds really need the crit immunity he doesn't have (unless he's making up for it with consumables, but if he's going all out tanking gear, he should be clicking cubes so he's doing *something* worthwhile for the rest of the fight).

Point him in the direction of the new Feral Druid Megathread.

Looking for some suggestions as how to get more DPS out of our raid (hunters in particular) on Kael. I broke out our best attempt of Kael into phase 2, 3. At the beginning of phase 4 we had cap at 80%, Telo at 75% and the Ax at 30%. I know many guilds get their first kill from something similar to this, but looking at our DPS I see a lot of room for improvement.

Attempt 1, Phase 2
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Attempt 1, Phase 3
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Illumination can proc the gem as well. In other words, a critical heal has two shots of procing the gem.

Our 3rd Gruul clear, anything you guys see we can improve on?
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Also, we are starting VR soon, probably with a similar, but maybe with only 1 maybe 2 rogues and more ranged(mage) dps. Any tips for our 1st attempts next week

All your mages a severly under the hit cap. They NEED 16% in total. (13% from gear 3% can come from talents)

Some have little to no enchants. Most value crit more than is justified.
375 tailors should have spellstrike made. It is better 90% of the time than any gear until T5 level at least. (There are exceptions that prove the rule, but looking at spec/gear they will not be in the exception catagory)

I would go into more detail, but the (lack of) effort put into what the mages are wearing and speced makes it hard to optimize when just about everything is below the optimization point.

Bring at least two warlocks if you plan to stack more mages. CoE will certainly be justified.

If you are raid focused guild, most of your mages could do with a respec. (0/59/2, 40/x/x works in 10 mans, but with 25 mans comes more synergy and makes 10/48/3 shine)

At this point I would just tell them that +hit (until capped) > +dmg > +crit and 10/48/3 will do better raid dps unless they are under ~800 damage unbuffed. (Than 40/x/x works)

The above is not always true, but it is a starting point.

Awesome thanks for the quick response. We are more of a casual raiding guild and are only starting 25 mans 2x's a week next week.

I'll be talking to the mages about beefing up their +hit.

Do you think its possible for a make-up similar to this one with the exception of a few more caster dps in for melee dps to down VR? Just curious if our dps is about where it should be for that fight.

VR has 4,5 mil HP and you need to kill him in 10 min. So you need minimum 7500 RaidDPS. My guild is exactly like yours (raiding 2 days a week) and I believe we killed VR when we the first passed 8500 RaidDPS on Gruul (around 7800 on our first kill on Gruul).

Btw, tell your hunters to use thier pets. They cant do shatter damage on Gruul, but they can parry. They just need Avoidance, Arc resist and a Mend Pet now and then on VR though. And remember the trash before VR is harsh when your learning it.

Heres the WWS from last night.

I was wondering how I might improve my healing.

Getting beat by an IDS priest on najentus hurts :o.
Perhaps I'm using CoH too much and gimping my out-of-FSR regen?

Our archimonde attempt was pretty pathetic, we were just trying to survive and avoid fires.

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Hello! I'm not sure how long your phase 1 took, but I like to split that out, so I just looked at the first 90 seconds of the fight:

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Couple comments:
Weider is doing absolutely shameful damage.
Rasparator isn't hit capped but overall has decent gear and a solid spec.
You have 8 healers. In our experience, 7 was the max for us, and many guilds use 6. Drop your weakest healer for vashj. Get comfortable with stacking the raid for a while til you have her down.
Also along those lines, you have two dps druids. Conroe is pulling his weight, Grazza is not. I'm no boomkin expert but shouldn't he be spamming wrath?
Scyn needs to lern2 MB and SWD. His cast order seems to be dot, dot flayXforever. His damage blows accordingly.

I noticed rasparator had blood pact...was he stuck on imp duty? What are your groups set up like? Did weider have windfury? What is your caster group(s) like?

I support cutting down on melee dps for vashj, but dropping rogues arbitrarily because "they don't do enough damage" while having 500 dps spriests, boomkin, and like 300 dps warrior is what?

Here's a 90 second phase 1 split from last week for example:
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And yes I realize they are wipes...we one-shotted her the week before.
We'll get her again this week :P

I'll comment on your shadow priests:

Soira:
-DoT uptime isn't very good. SW:P's uptime was about 60%, VT about 40% of the fight duration. I don't know if Soira was avoiding DoTs during transitions but that still seems far too low for VT. Calculating VT uptime by comparing mana returned to shadow damage done, VT uptime for all damage was about 64%.
-Looking at damage done it looks like Soira was DPSing the adds. I'm not sure whether your strategy calls for shadow priests to do that, but generally priests would be better off DPSing Hydross full-time and just sticking a SW:P (can be rank 1 if mana is an issue) on all 4 adds to put up misery for the AoE, which also gives the tank on Hydross some time to build aggro if priests are keeping DoTs up full time on Hydross.
-It looks like Soira had a shaman, but only got two ticks of Mana Spring. I looked at Mozaith's WWS and it looks like Mana Spring was down pretty much the entire time, so I'll hedge a guess that Soira was not in range of the shaman, which may also mean Soira wasn't getting Wrath of Air or Totem of Wrath either.
-Gear-wise, the only major flaw I see is that Soira has no leg enchant.

Lucilea:
-DoT uptime for SW:P is better than Soira's. However, VT uptime again is fairly poor and comparable to Soira's.
-Why wasn't Lucilea using VE?
-Lucilea also spent time DPSing adds.
-Gear could definitely use improvement. No enchant on Spellstrike Hood - Lucilea needs to grind Sha'tar rep. Chest, Gloves, Legs and Boots have no enchants. Trinket-wise, both could use replacement, especially the Airman's Ribbon.

For your consideration our first VR attempts (and our first kill) and our first night of learning Al'ar.

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We had 9 people die on orbs on VR, so we definitely need to work on that. Any glaring things that stick out? We post the WWS's for our raids in our forums but they don't get much chatter, so I'm just curious what people of other classes notice when they see these.

Note: Darkcrescent (one of the mages) respecced to Frost that night for Al'ar but the other two did not if that matters in how you view things.

The majority of his output comes from in-group healing and that was a choice of spells (poh vs a mix of poh/coh) As poh has the higher hps output it's preferrable for your own group. His average poh heal was higher than yours too (2*trinket vs 1*trinket etc), and he had a fel armor lock in his group (20% extra healing received). Also, your SP healed your group for 158k more than his = reduced poh scope for you.

Same here. Disappointing service for the money paid. I would at least expect a note from the operator that there are problems.

Our first BT Raid

I would like to improve my dps, as Rogues always want

Any suggestions? ty and nice thread

I'm looking to tighten up my (Nuwen) peformance in higher end raid settings. I realize that I'm not hit capped, and this is the largest increase in dps per itemization point for me. I also get low raid fps (4-12); stopcasting macros are not realistic.

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My dps on Gorefiend was mediocre, despite not getting Mark of Death for the entire night. I am not threat capped. Advice?

Hello all, first time poster, long time fan of the site.

Took down Gruul for the first time last night, but looking to tighten our game a bit.

Here's the breakdown, subject to your constructive criticism.

I left in the 3 attempts prior to kill. This was our first night of attempts by the way.

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Thanks!

Your feral druid isn't using an optimal DPS cycle -- he's using Ferocious Bite instead of Rip, and he's hardly using Mangle at all. He would increase his DPS significantly by pushing buttons in a different order. Send him to the Feral Druid Megathread.

Hit rating. You can replace a lot of 8 agility with more 4 hit/4 agility and 8 hit gems, and get surefooted (cat's agility if you find yourself nearing the hit cap). You only need 2 blue gems for the RED - don't waste valuable slots! Right now, your biggest loss in dps is missed windfury opportunities with your offhand.

Moving a point from lethality into relentless strikes (3/3) will help alleviate the slow combo point generation that combat dagger specs suffer from.

Use your herbalism to farm up a dragon's nest of haste potions.

Try and use blade flurry at every opportunity. I've noticed that you wait until the middle of a fight to pop it (or forget it altogether, whoops).

Cloak of shadows can be used to mitigate Najentus' frost aoe.

Poke your paladins and ask one to keep wisdom judged. This won't boost your own dps, but it will help your raid.