our second try day on Lurker (should have been down, but ...): http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...s=6298-11330&m (sorry, I'm giving a custom split in order to avoid trash killing, and apologies for the french version log too).

It was Trolca, Latifa, Mortatitool, Limkiss's first night.
Is there something blatantly wrong with how Meurpa is healing?
How can we get better? Is this kind of raid setup ok? Do we have enough dps power to beat all the adds down?
We tried different strategies tonight, some involving sheeping adds with ou without tanks building aggro before.
Since it didn't work, I'd like to konw if dps'ing them down every time would be advised?

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=hp5p4meqydhza
nothing special beside SSC/Eye logs.

shows that melee shamans and hunters CAN dps very well even with decent gear.

Here is a WWS of a night on tries on Morogrim. DPS was really fine after a few early attempts, and AoE'ers were mostly staying alive. The healing was split like this: Peach was protection trying to gather up the adds, Manlo was holy, but on back up on gathering up the adds, for the first few attempts wearing tanking gear, later on wearing full healing gear in charge of topping up the raid after the EarthQuake.

Dorag was in charge of healing the paladins, Gehha was in charge of healing water tombed people, Riendra was in charge of the AoE. Most of the deaths seemed to occur when a few healers got graved and the remaining healers didn't instinctively compensate for each other in their raid roles.

My performance was atrocious, but unfortunately I had to really hold my DPS because I kept pulling aggro on murlocks with VE healing, which I will obviously stop using, unfortunately it is horrendously ingrained for me to keep using it.

I think we might have to drop a feral druid and go for a 8 healers + a protection paladin, as our healing was obviously woefully insufficient. Our tree druid also lost people to the graves a few times, expecially mages. Any suggestion for mages on this fight? Should they wear more HP gear?

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=j1t6dbs3k1hn1

We run a Pally Tank strat and I had the same problem until we put a Shaman in my group for Tranq Air. Given the sick amount of raid dmg taken with that approach and hence healing you can contribute I think it's worth it.

You can use VE just fine, simply fade each time as the first murloc pack comes lumbering down the hall. I haven't had a problem yet. Remember that fade is a direct aggro reduction off all 12 murlocs + Morogrim, while the healing aggro you accumulate from VE is split 13 ways amongst them.

When you use the feature "search WWS for this boss" on any given report, he will give you the highest dps recorded for that particular boss. I've been using this for comparison purposes.

I did try that, and I had tranquil air, but I still reliably pulled aggro on all the murlocks and got gibbed. Maybe our paladin tanks are not building enough threat, but even with shaman totems for minus threat and fading I reliably got gibbed.

You aren't Mind Blasting or SWDing once Murlocs get spawned, right? I can survive just fine with DoTs and Mind Flay going, but things got really, really dicey if I would accidentally nuke Morogrim before AoE started.

Yeah of course not. I think what might be causing it is that the murlock packs reach the raids at different times, so if I fade the first pack, I still pull aggro from the second pack.

WWS now has the paid accounts system in place.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/doc-accounts.jsp

Free account, User account $2/month, Guild account $5/month, Unlimited account $9/month.

Here's a wws report from my guild's hydross attempts last nite. 20% at enrage on best attempt and managed to burn him down to about 8% but still not a kill

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=xraqbfez1562e

Wondering what the casters can do to pick up their dps if anyone has any suggestions any help is appreciated

A Priest can always fade off the aggro from Murlocs. Keep your VE up, as it will help the raid healers tremendously.

Probably the one issue that I question the most is why you have a Druid, where his strength lies in HOTs and slow heals, healing the Watery Grave which is notorious for it's emergency healing?

I'd suggest reconsidering your healing assignments to play on the strengths of classes. Think about which classes are best suited to heal up a raid right after an earthquake, yet can still handle the aggro (in one way or another).

Also, our guild found it helpful to really focus on what in particular was communicated regarding Watery Graves. Who is it important to know about...and who do we really not care about?
- MT Healers
- Anyone that will die if the Grave Breaks and they're not healed up.
- Paladin Tank

Here's a WWS from attempts on Gruul last night.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=d3uby6bwrh3r3

We have been stuck at this 50% point for 3 weeks now, and I just discovered WWS, so this is the first time I have used it. I believe I set everything up right (200 yds on combatlog, AutoCL worked, etc) but one of our members (a mage) is missing from these reports... I might need to check my config.wtf file when I get home, as I run SWStats, and it could be resetting the combatlog range.

However, this still shows me some problems in the raid. The problems as I see them so far...

1) people still dying from Shatter/Cave Ins. People need to learn to move.
2) Shamans need to Chain Heal more since we have a pretty melee friendly raid.
3) One of the hunters needs to lrn2play. Aimed/Multi/Auto rotations no longer work.
4) Some healers are underperforming. I can't tell if this is due to gear, dying, or what...

I was wondering if there was anything else yall could see that I am oblivious to?

I spec'd PvP later on that day, was prot for this, but the reason we took the same damage I am willing to bet is we used Curse of Recklessness to speed to the kill up. Not to flex my epeen, but there was no way he was going to kill me with or without the curse, figured we might as well use it.

Paches was prot for this run -- he's our main tank. You probably caught him PvP specced. We had CoR on Malchezaar for the entire fight though since we had 2 rogues, a DPS warrior, and a hunter.

^^^^ Dammit.

Second Gruul kill for us, it was nice to go back in and one-shot him this week. 13 Growths isn't bad either.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...&m&s=3066-3489

Raid DPS went from 6942 to 8376, I'm sure it'll continue to improve as the DPS classes get more and more comfortable with the fight (and continue to take raid specs, and continue to work on hit rating, etc). Was definitely nice to see our Mages up there, Nyvolich is a die-hard Frost spec, but we finally have a 10/48/3 Fire Mage doing well as well (both were in the group with an Elemental Shaman and Shadow Priest).

My computer rebooted right near the end, so I missed the final stages of the fight.

Edit: One thing I'm going to have to investigate is the number of misses I had. I just recently hit 308 hit rating, with Precision and Weapon Expertise, so I should be at the cap according to discussions on these forums. However, that parse shows me missing 27 times, or 5.2% of my white attacks. Something doesn't seem right about that.

Shatter damage?

No. That damage is not included in the totals.

http://www.partyjouren.se/wow/wws-20...155/index.html

Our First Vashj kill last night. Seems its quite unusual for a rogue to top those charts but hey what can I say, I did it!

Solarian first night, first kill

Top 3 RDPS according to WWS Server. (2 add phases)
http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...xu&s=4195-4479

First: BM hunter
Second: Affl Lock
Third: SV Hunter(me)

(lower presence on me due to watching out for stray adds that went for 2 AR tanks, and trapping - i suspect earthshield/mending aggro on AR tanks)

Eyo

I m looking for a tool that can get Swstats data and display it on web, I tryed months ago WWS but if u are the only 1 using it, it suxx, loose a lot of data from other ppl that are 30 yard from me etc. While swstats its synched with all other ppl and thats kinda nice.


Any suggestion ?

First start is to set your combat log range to 200 (max), and then persuade 1-2 more to log with you for much better spreading of the logging. (1 healer, 1 ranged, 1 melee).

THat should get you settled for at start atleast.