I thought that windfury is going to be nerfed in the next patch. Is it still going to be a necessity for melee groups?

We normally run with 1 elemental shaman who drops totems for the caster group.

Windfury is already nerfed, and if I understand the math in the windfury thread correctly, an elemental shaman dropping windfury for the melee will still generate more damage than wrath in the caster group. That's how good it is after the nerf. Image what it was like before.

Ironically I was in the enahnce shaman group so I will have to chat with him about where the Totem went. Thanks for the advice, I will work on the stuff you suggested.

Rafaedrin feinted 8 times but never vanished on the killshot. That's an enormous waste. 9 sword spec procs in 5ish minutes is nuts too. What was he doing? 6 wf hits? He's about 300 dps behind his gear so I really have no clue what he was doing.

Bloodwynd feinted and never vanished either. Feint takes energy and gcd, vanish is free. That's a silly tradeoff. He could use a faster offhand and needs to stop using eviscerate.

I know you asked for lock help but your rogues are so out of whack I had to say something.

Rafe had 28 parries.

Blood had 6.

Each attack that Gruul parries cuts his next-swing timer in half, resulting in more damage to the tank and potentially burst damage that the healers aren't expecting. Not to mention that, obviously, parries are wasted damage.

Try to get Rafe to learn where 'behind Gruul' is. Blood has an acceptable number of parries for Gruul turning to hit the OT or while repositioning from a Cave In, etc, though fewer is always better.

Thank you again for the rapid fire responses. My tank has asked that if you all have time, could you critique him as well?

Your mages--barring Weezle--are underperforming, even given a generally low gear level. It's actually impressive that you managed to kill Gruul with some people rocking 500 spell damage (I don't mean that as a knock on you).

Moonsilver casts scorch WAY too much. As a fire mage, you want to roughly shoot for an 8 or 9 fireball to one scorch rotation. I find myself casting extra scorches on Gruul to keep the debuff up through silence/slam/etc, but he's using it as his primary nuke which is atrocious DPS. Some guilds have one mage on "scorch bitch" duty to keep the debuff up, but several other of your mages are casting tons of scorches too, so I assume it's not that. To top it off, his spec is weird. 10/48/3 doesn't mean "take random talents until you get these numbers". For example, he skipped Burning Soul, which is basically required for any fire mage. It might not be hurting him now because his +damage is so low, but as he gears up he'll find himself at the threat cap in a hurry. Get him to cast Fireball, spec more like this, and into some (enchanted/gemmed) Karazhan gear and he should shoot up the charts.

Aruceid has a ton of wasted points in arcane. If he's serious about doing raid DPS, have him copy the spec I linked just above. He also casts scorch far too much.

Despite being in the upper half of the mages, I wouldn't be surprised if Flunkie and Littlehoss benefitted from a respec. Even if they insist on staying frost, their specs are not optimal (and Flunkie's arcane blasts are wasting his tasty FSW gear). Arctic Winds and Water Elemental are pretty key to frost's viability.

Any of your scryer mages should get a [Scryer's Bloodgem]. Until you are hit-capped, it's about the best trinket outside of the Black Temple. And I don't see any of them at the cap.

Can a warrior out there tell me why my warrior here on prince can barely sustain 450 TPS? I had salvation and was having to stop casting and just stand there.

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Errr... MT executes?
15 shield slams is low.
Way too many Heroic Strikes... well not "too many".. 0 revenges. Revenge is 2 rage. No reason to ever not use it. Revenge on every cooldown. Shield Slam is tons of threat, damage, etc. I'm not understanding the executes though... Did the other warrior take over for the last small %? It doesn't look like he died and was BR'd or anything...
30 Devastates? Personally, I would spam this while maintaining rage for Shield Block.

Not a warrior, but just casually looking at that, not nearly enough revenges and shield slams.

On the kill your shaman only dropped Windfury Totem twice, Given that you only had 5 windfury procs the entire fight, I'm going to guess that he was dropping it pretty far from the center of the room, or that he just failed to drop it at all until late in the fight.

Shield wall, switch to zerker stance, execute. Warriors do it all the time.

I rarely ever have to tank on my warrior, but when I need to it's just something I prefer not to do.

It's not a bad move for Prince. Phase 3 is a fairly pressing DPS race to kill him before you are overwhelmed by the infernals. Prince doesn't do much damage in phase 3 either, so switching out of defensive stance is okay. In this particular case, his TPS would have actually increased (more than the 450 TPS that was quoted earlier).

Well I appreciate the information. I'll keep it in mind next time I'm tanking something that isn't capable of radical burst damage.

Yeah, I don't know why he's so hung up on Thunderfury. He uses Kings Defender on most stuff, though, including prince. Also there were 18 revenges, not 0.

The executes *may* have been because we got bad infernals at 5% and a bunch of us died so we were just trying to kill him. I have heard him talk about using execute before though, so I don't know.

Thanks for the input, I had a feeling it was related to revenge/shield slam.

I have read through this thread quite a bit and have noticed a lot of helpful replies. I am posting a recent Magtheridon WWS Report and would appreciate your most constructive criticism. We are a casual raiding guild with no raid attendance policy and do quite well all things considered. We are currently working on Hydross and haven't reached the point where we can honestly blame DPS for not downing him. We have a difficult enough time with the phase transitions. Even though I am at the top of the meters on this fight I feel as though I can DPS harder (even with cube clicking duties)! If you're an expert at your respective class please share your thoughts and criticisms w/ me. Thank you for your input!


WWS Magtheridon Report

Did you guys seriously 21 man Magtheridon? If not, the accuracy of that parse seems kind of suspect. If so, wow Particularly with 2 locks.

On a more constructive note, I'd encourage your mages to find a way to get a lot more hit. They're already doing nice DPS, but it'd be a hell of a lot higher if they weren't missing 10%+ of their Fireballs.

There's also a few guys (Norra, Stellaris, Blingshot) running around with arcane specs. This is becoming a broken record, but until you have 2 piece T5, arcane is just going to lose to fire under normal circumstances. Particularly since all of them are using Fireball as their main nuke, why would you not want to maximize that spell? Not having Elemental Precision is hurting them a lot, too. In that same vein, get Eviel to shift 2 points from Imp Fire Blast to Molten Fury. MF is an amazing talent, and how often do you find yourself spamming Fire Blast in a raid?

There's only 21 actors that parse; it's probably not that accurate. Also, your entire post is in bold, you may want to fix that before the mods see it.

Apparently the parse is inaccurate. Which is strange considering I use loggerhead and have my combatlog range extended to 200 yards. TY for pointing that out; somehow it completely skipped my mind (lol). However, lucky the only actors missing from the parse are 3 healers and 1 dps druid. I appreciate your comments regarding our mages they have been a weak point as of late and any additional comments for any class would be welcome. However due to the inaccuracy of the parse please ignore this post unless you are simply commenting on spec and such. TY and sorry about the parse. :(

Loggerhead isn't your problem, it's how you uploaded the log via WWS. Check the actor list, the auto-update isn't 100% accurate, so find the 4 people that have been classified as mobs, and manually select their class.

TYVM! Apparently the Parse it accurate but 4 show up as mobs. I'll pay more attention in the future!