According to the link, that WWS has been deleted by the owner.

Yeah I actually made an edit to my post a few minutes ago. I had neglected to attribute the water elemental's damage to our frost mage (I know, I know) and it bumped his dps into slightly less anemic territory. It should be working properly now.

Easily. For Gurtogg I actually put to use my [Eye of Diminution] (25% at level 70) that I got in Naxx last week and it helped me do pretty good dps+healing all the way through the fight, only in the last 5% was I starting to approach aggro issues. I was able to use it 3 times during bloodboil phases, always using it right after my group took a boil.

Here's our Gurtogg: Wow Web Stats
Here's our Teron: Wow Web Stats
Here's our Naj'entus: Wow Web Stats

Naj'entus our healing is extremely solid so it's not quite so much an issue these days, but check out the first 2 parses and see how many regular healers I was ahead of. Combine that with my non-trivial DPS and it's easy to see how threat accumulates quickly.

Shahraz... it's currently not an issue. We can only DPS half the time, and it's also highly dependant on how your FA's are going anyways.

After raiding for awhile, I've noticed a trend for our casters (Mages, Shadow Priests, Warlocks) to almost always be low on DPS compared to our melee and hunters. Currently, our composition supports our melee class quite well (Enhancement Shaman/Feral Druid/Warrior party buffs), compared to our casters, who (usually) only get a Shadow Priest. Still, our Hunters do extremely well without much support at all, and do alot better (which is really surprising since we play in a high lag environment).

Here are a few reports (from different raid nights where casters lived most of the fight):
Leo
Lurker
Lurker 2
Mag (melee don't do any clicking)
Hydross

Does anything about our casters leap out at anyone? Or have I been misled by WWSs of Manly/Stion/etc?

Im mainly interrested in the tanking here. Are the warriors taking too many crushing blows?

Hydross, Lurker & Morogrim
Maulgar, Gruul & Magtheridon

If Hecate is going to be demonology, s/he needs to use a felguard (unless it was parsed out?). Either that or respec affliction or destruction for raiding. As 7/43/11, there's roughly 7 points in demo that are a direct dps increase for the warlock (without using their pet as dps, that is).

Snaily - in an eleven minute lurker kill, he had roughly four minutes of uptime on UA and *less* on his other dots. Get him A: a dot timer, B: a set of /stopcasting macros, and C: some no-doze, because it looks like he's asleep behind the wheel. (B may not be necessary, depends on his latency)

Deathealer/Labiana: both could do with a little more VT/SW:P uptime (kinda hard to tell on Lurker because it depends how fast you clear out his adds). What is with them both not being tailors? o.0 (although they're kinda past the progression point where tailoring seems to be a must-have, although frozen shadowweave boots are currently the best boots for a SP anywhere through BT.) Also, they could probably stand to be a little bit more aggressive about the use of SW and MB. Side note, they have 13 and 8 ticks of fire damage from scalding water respectively - they keep playing with fire like that they're gunna get burned. Also, given that lurker is threat-free for range, they could quite easily just hop in the water full-time and dps from there.

Hurriy and Krystalmage are both frost, they seem to be doing pretty well (aside from the whole dying thing). Shiven *seriously* needs some more hit (and it looks like he could benefit from some /stopcasting macro goodness too).

Thanks for that. Hec does have a Felguard, but I think he respecced so it had a different name so it wasn't assigned in the WWS.

Moro will crush more than a typical raid boss, because tidal wave eats shield block charges. This is the reason many guilds (ours included) said "screw it" to warrior tanking when we got there with warriors in T4, and just put a druid in there. Yes, he gets crushed a *lot* (25% of the time, +/- a bit), but his AC mitigates most of the spike, and we find him quite easy to heal.

Celestrial - WWS
50.3% missed attacks.
13% crushed attacks (works out to 27% of all hits taken are crushing blows)
36% regular melee attacks

Key thing to note over a warrior: average crushing blow was 5312, and max was 7155.

Compare to EJ's kill in August with Paches tanking, with a warrior in T6 gear:
Paches - WWS
68% missed attacks
3% crushed attacks
31% regular melee attacks

Crushing: 6172 average, max of 6943.

Obviously when your warrior gets to the point where he directly mitigates more hits than a druid, he's the smarter choice for the role. Despite this, guilds like ours that learned with a druid, probably stick with the druid. It's just easier to do what you know.

I bet you wish you'd rolled Night Elf priest now huh?

STARSHARDDSSSSS

Interesting bug, not sure if it has happened to anyone else:

Rufus - WWS

Rufus here did more damage than the total damage report if you look at the breakdown, for Miko it is the opposite, the total damage is higher than the damage he ended up doing if you breakdown the spells.

Any clue what brings this?

Help our DPS.

Our guild is comprised of a strange mixture of old raiders (i.e. Pre-BC, had done MC - Naxx) and people entirely new to raiding. We've been working the Gruul fight for about a month, and our DPS just isn't close to where it needs to be. We have amazingly good warlocks and a couple of decent rogues, but the rest of our dps tends to suck, partially it seems cause they don't know what they're doing. We've tried assessing people, and working with them individually. But we are somewhat limited by our own class knowledge.

They hunters seem to be clueless when it comes to shot rotations, and aren't using their pets. I think some our mages are just slow reactors and are probably mouse clicking.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Here's our parse from last night, Maulgar one shotted then 6 attemps on Gruul. Our best attempt we got him to about 22%. Last Night

And here is a parse of some prior Gruul attempts, when our best is about 40%. Old Gruul

I've said some of these things to my guild leaders. They don't always listen. As a prot warrior and owner of a mage, my own knowledge is limited. I understand the mechanics of a lot of classes, but don't have the experience using any of them. I know our mages just aren't casting enough. My guess is they're running out for the ground slam way too early even though with our positioning, they really don't have far to run.

Most of your rogues seem to be doing alright overall, but Danicka needs to (a) switch to combat daggers given his weapons, and (b) be using rupture, not mutilate, as his primary finisher. He could also def. use more hit rating and could use either Helm of the Claw, Stealther's helmet of second sight, or go get the 2-piece waste walker bonus (including the helm in this case) to help a bunch. Also, other than Vorzz, your rogues don't seem to be using Blade Flurry as soon as possible all the time. Using it right away is a big dps increase unless they're threat capped by the second tank.

Danicka is one of those I'd say just doesn't know what she's doing. We've had Vorzz talk with her, and she refuses to respec to Combat Daggers or stop using mutilate.

Threat shouldn't be an issue if they're using feint and vanish properly, but Vorzz seems to be the only one doing so.

I appreciate the input, as a couple of us are trying to help those who aren't where they should be, but my own knowledge is limited and I'm only starting to get a better grasp on classes I have never played before.

Vessyra,

You have 1 mage with unsocketted gear and an unenchanted weapon. Your other mages seem to like solid stars of elune and the +8 crit rating dawnstone, which are never the right choices for PvE. Breaking the spellfire set for items like T4 gloves or the Inferno waist cord doesn't seem ideal either. So your mages have huge issues before the zone into the instance.

Getting them to get their tailored gear, spellstrike, socket and enchant it properly and then try to push up their spell hit rating would be a huge step in the right direction.

Yes, I'm aware of that problem as well. The one mage in question literally got his gear 2 days ago, and should have socketed it by now, but I think he's unsure of which way to go. I'll make sure that gets rememdied tonight. I'll take a look at the other stuff as well.

I guess the question is... do you care?

Either your guild gives people performance goals (match the DPS of other rogues) to reach with penalties for not reaching them (get benched for a rogue that specs combat) or they don't. If her feelings matter more than her raid DPS, then that's not necessarily a bad choice for your guild's objectives, but it is a bad choice for killing bosses, and you'll have to live with the consequences.

I don't think someone spec'd mutilate is killing you, get them to properly Rupture, not use Envenom and keep up SnD and they'll do fine, not great, but at least 550 DPS which is okay for Gruul.

Unfortunately, it's everyone else that is having problems, except for three people, the DPS up time isn't very good (looking at attempt Gruul attempt 5). Speaking as a Rogue, there is no way a Rogue should be below 95% on Gruul with both Rupture and Deadly Poison.

It all comes down to what people want in this game, if the members of your guild want to proceed past Gruul, some changes will have to be made. It's not about forcing spec, it's more about making sure the people are getting the most out of the specs they chose, and beyond a few people, that just doesn't seem to be the case here.

In our guild we found showing the WWS reports from our first ever Gruul raid got some people really interested in fixing their DPS. Seeing it right there on the screen that someone in greens was beating someone in Epics in damage can be a real eye opener.

Good luck on your next attempts!

Edit: Random word was missing.

Only comment about your hunters that i can give: They seriously need to l2p. Tell them to visit the EJ boards and read the BM hunter thread on the Class Mechanics subboard. They are doing so many things wrong, i won't even bother to start just one word: Aimed Shot...

I had to.

WWS from last nights gruul: Wow Web Stats

I'm a bit worried about the priest Chocoma's healing done and I'm wonder if anyone can tell me what he's doing wrong.

He cast 39 smites, 6 GHeals and 7 Flashes. That might have something to do with it.