Hello all,

I was doing Netherspite with my guild last night and a gnome warlock kept complaining that he couldn't get in the beams and that they went straight over his head (i.e. too short). Now I couldn't believe this and asked a few friends in a more progressed guilds who told me "no way". But then others in my guild said they saw it going over his head. My immediate thought was that he had the debuff but that was not the case either. Has anyone else experienced anything like this or are they just going crazy and some latency or odd issue is happening. Do any of you other gnomes out there have problems getting in the beams?

Thanks in advance.

We've had our gnomes in beams everytime we've killed Netherspite. Unless something has changed since 2.1 (we didn't have any gnomes with us on Sunday) then he probably just had the debuff.

Try jumping into the air, that should grab it. It's fairly restrictive with getting it, but it's somewhat flexible on keeping it.

And playing Horde so wouldn't know about gnomes.

We consistently have gnomes tank beams. Your gnome is in the wrong spot. The best places to tank the beam are either right next to the portal (far from Netherspite) or right next to Netherspite. If you try to stand in the middle of the beam, it can go over or around many different races. There is really no need to stay away from Netherspite during the beam phase, and standing close to him ensures you will get hit by the beam.

Also, this may not need a separate thread. The reason we have a monster KZ mega-thread is to avoid cluttering the forum with tons of specific questions. You may want to ask a mod to heap this and repost in the "Karazhan, already?" thread.

Good luck with finishing Netherspite.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will let the my whole guild know that they need to tank beams either close to the portal or close to Netherspite.

Best to just have people stand up near Netherspite. Eliminates healing range issues. The beam can actually go over the head of Humans if you're standing in exactly the wrong spot on that ledge.

On an amusing note, we had a Gnome spawn fish at Morogrim a few days ago.

On this thread, people will read the question and click on the thread if they care. In the megathread, the information is simply lost forever.

Hell, we've had the beam land on people, not touching Netherspite, and no debuff was ever on the person.

Beam mechanics will always elude me.

This is caused by characters bugging out from certain skills like Vanish. I even had a Vanish on Shade of Aran bug me out on Netherspite. Simple solution? Log out then back in right before fighting Netherspite.

double posts are no fun

What? Why would you WANT to fix it unless it's a tank that's having the issue?

Multiple times we've had our blue and green beam holders get bugged and not get the debuff OR the buff. We just have them sit in the beam the entire fight and no one else has to bother with it.


Also, quick question: did they fix the green beam returning all your mana to you upon getting the debuff? It didn't seem to work for me Sunday when I tried it.

Because the buffs are incredibly benefitial? Why wouldn't you want to fix it?

1. Like I said, we don't have to bother with any sort of rotation then.

2. Blue sucks to heal when it starts stacking up. We'd rather just not have any damage amplification for the person in it even if it means sacrificing the damage they'll be outputting.

We usually let Warlocks sit in the Blue beam, I can absorb an entire rotations by myself with a minimum amount of healing through Siphon and Drain Life (which tick at silly amounts).

But, yeah, it is usually a boon when the beams don't place a debuff.

If you are still having trouble grabbing the beams with gnomes you can always try Deviate Delights or Noggenfogger.

I find it silly when, as a destruction lock (with no DL-boosting talents) that drain life does almost half my damage on that encounter. I'd be surprised if affliction locks even need heals.

Noggenfogger can make you even smaller!

The new Netherspite is so nerfed, I dont see how healing the Blue Beam is tough. Blue Beam healing has gone from #1 Priority to a meshed into the rest of the damage type of thing.

Anyone got any tips for a guild transitioning from exploiting LOS in the banish phases to doing it 'properly', now Netherspite has DIY'd up a massive door? We made a deliberate choice to learn him the easy way for the ~3 weeks we've been killing him, but last night after our first ever Illhoof and Nightbane kills (yay!) we spent an hour or so wiping on Netherspite with no real joy.

On a side note, it's pretty annoying you can't reset him any more. It's always much easier to accept learning wipes when most of the group makes it out alive, and you can get back on your feet so much quicker. When we lost people learning it the easy way, we'd just hang on to the next banish phase then leggit to the consortium guys room to reset, saved loads of repair costs that way.

As to specific questions, do melee need to back off and just stand around in banish phase? It's a bit odd to just stand there feeling useless while ranged are still going at him on. Also, our main problem seemed to be the new red-beam tank picking him up after banish but before the beam hit - is there a threat wipe at some point?

(we have the luxury of 2 locks, so we use 1 to tank each blue beam for an entire phase - as long as they don't get a void zone spawned under them with a huge buff stack, they are self-sustaining from what I gather)

The information you seek (plus all the other info you could ever want regarding Netherspite) is cleverly concealed in the previous Netherspite thread, highlighting one reason the OP could have done well to post there.

Ironically enough, the thread title is even "Netherspite Bugs"

Saw him last night for the first time and downed him 4th pull so hopefully this'll be of some use

During banish melee can DPS fine, healers just need to be aware he may tag one of them every now and again with a single melee hit which as hes hitting at 100% again is survivable by all melee. They just have to top people up quick to account for a melee followed a netherbreath. Similarly, don't go back in after a netherbreath till your back at full health.

From his behaviour last night it looks as if he clears his threat totally after each banish phase - we had problems with DPS continuing to DPS after the banish with no break and drawing aggro. After telling them to stop until the beams come out me and druid tank could easily pick him up with some saved rage from the banish phase until the beams came out.