the thing triggers nether protection but he doesn't stop firing on you, IIRC. Our warlock tank only was specced for it like, once.

So i have around 320 Spell dmg as a priest around 6.7K HP, i normally only get 1 heal and i end up dead when the demons @ 50% any tips Thanks.

Wear more spell damage gear? We tipically put our priests in a group with a paladin for concentration aura, after that just swap to an enchanted +spell damage weapon, pop a trinket and destroy your demon with chain smites.

I never get a paladin in my group and how much + spell dmg should i have

Ask for a paladin in your group, 330 spell damage is fine with a one use trinket (the heroic one is great) - when you get a demon, switch to a +spell damage weapon, that should be at least an extra +200-250 damage, pop the trinket, and destroy the demons. The on use trinket is expecially important.

Well This is wat happens my Face gets owned 6.7K HP he hits me around for 2500~ and when he shadow bolts + hits me if im not on 100% since i have to keep smiting i die the only time i get a heal is a flash of light then thats it

i wish healers would Heal me but... isnt gonna happen ><

In that case your guild needs to work out a way of healing people that get inner demons.

What the Chicken said. Meanwhile, contrary to what I've read in some "official" guides, I'm fairly sure the demons have a set amount of health, no matter whom they are summoned on. That means any raider (other than the demon tank) will need to pull somewhere around 350 DPS on demand, under pushback, vs. a mob that is extra vulnerable to holy damage. I say "extra holy" to imply that a holy/disc priest has a decent chance with the gear they've picked up in raids by then, but in this case, you might want to just overgear for demons. Leo himself really doesn't hit that hard; you can afford to gimp your healing power.

And again, don't assume you should have to heal yourself. You won't do any healing dead, but you won't do any when mind controlled, either. Let the other healers / healthstone / LotP druids / shadow priests keep you up. (Rearrange groups if necessary.)

They do have a set amount of HP (about 10.000). Our tank tried it, there was no difference between 17k hp and 14k, the demon always had about 10k.

If this is the situation, you're not going to kill Leotheras. Have someone call out the people that have inner demons, have healers assigned to watching them, do something. Healers don't have time to heal themselves, other people don't have the ability. The only people who were consistently killing their demon without any heals during our last attempts were tanks. (Well, okay, the prot warriors had some trouble killing their demons, but not much trouble with dying.)

Healers who have problems with killing their demons should change the mainhand/offhand and ranged slot just before the insidious whisper hits, this global cooldown can make the difference. Using an on-use trinket ist very advisable.

Prot warris should dual-wield and get a windfury totem.

We finally downed Leo last night after a couple of nights of tries. One thing that appear different after patch 2.2 is the reaction of Inner Demons toward hunter pets.

Before patch I could park my boar pet a bit away; when I got the Inner Demon my pet could grab aggro with boar charge; I could throw a mend pet on him, move a bit away and just nuke the demon to 15% or so, put pet on passive just in case and then finish off the demon from range.

Tonight the demon seemed totally locked on me, and out of surprise I barely managed to axe it down with my Legacy..

Has any other hunter noticed this change?

This is a responce to the hunter above me:
I did not notice this myself because I rotated myself to reserve last week, But others noticed this.
If you did not allready. Just dropping a trap and concshot+kiting is the best option.
I believe this is blizzard's of fixing pet MC, A sloppy sollution IMO but better than nothing.

p.s. : Wich hunter doesnt like kiting

We found we needed to heal people through inner demons or we would have deaths during that phase.

I told people if they wanted to get a heal during demon phase they should be in range of the bulk of the healers who would gather on the lower flat area between the pillar and the ramp. If you were out of range.. no heals. Remember there is no requirement to spread out during demon phase so may as well get close for heals.

During Demon phase there is VERY little healing to do. 3-4 healers can keep the tank up so the rest have more than enough time to throw heals on people killing demons. I usually tell healers to do a little dps do the boss during this phase as there is virtually no raid healing to perform.

Our usual Leo tank (lock) is without internet for some reason today and I might be filling in. I have a few questions about gear that I was unable to find in this thread (admittingly, I've been skimming most of it .

The lock who usually tanks says I need 130 hit to be able to hold aggro on it. In my current gear I have 10.6k hp and 306 FR unbuffed but only 80 hit. Should I sacrifice some of my HP/FR to get more hit. I was just wondering since I couldnt find anyone discussing the importance of hit/dmg/crit for a lock tank.

I usually tank it with 100 hit, don't think 80 hit will make a huge difference. And FR > all, even more important than stamina.

Remove bos,
COD leo as soon as he gets unbanished
Don't involve in fights in human phases.
Spam searing pain in demon phase. When COD triggers, put recklesness
5 secs before transition, stop searing pain and put a COD on him.

If someone is nuking badly, let him/her die, he has to learn to play. Everyone has to watch some threat meter. Besides losing aggro from leo demon is quite a hard thing.

We've had our first night of tries on Leo last night and the whole fight went smooth until the sub 15% phase.

We either had people dying from pulling aggro or the dps being almost non-existant due to people being "too" careful. So we've had 2 1% wipes and a 5% wipe....disheartening.

Anyway, I'm kinda curious when he resets aggro. When he starts to whirlwind or when he stops? How do you treat the sub 15% phase? As normal phase 1?

Thanks for the answers.

Threat resets at the end of his Whirlwind - and continually throughout, far as I can tell - so dealing a bit of damage in one won't cause any problems. Regardless, I generally stress running to the walls when you see WW start rather than dpsing while waiting to see where he goes.

We treat P3 exactly as P1, with the exception that someone needs to heal the warlock. Just make sure you either time the transition to be when the FR tank has no debuffs or that you use DI to clear the debuffs if you have to transit late in or just after a demon phase. The FR tank will eventually die, just make sure to maximise the time until that happens and remain precise with the Leo dps. Range overaggroing after WW and dragging him off the tank is a big dps loss, so make sure everyone just stays calm, cool and collected.

The main problem with p3 is that ppl get excited and forgot to move in and out at wirlwinds. We usually tank the demon part around his platform and tank the human part away from the demon.

Wait for human-demon transition to push him to 15%, so you can dps him while he is doing that 10-15 sec emote. We usually stop dps when he is at 17% and wait for next human->demon transition and finish the last 2% within 5-10 seconds. So that:
Demon phase tank do not have debuffs stacked on him.
We can push him to 11% - 11% before he starts p3.
No whispers are announced just before he hits p3.

I had the same problem and eventually decided that I was doing far less healing for the raid when I died all the time.

So.. I put on every bit of DPS gear I could find and came out with +500 dam.

After that I was able to kill my demon easily (I insisted in conc aura too), and found I could still heal more than enough.

Leo is a very healing light fight. Ideally next to nobody will take damage from WW or in demon
phase. In fact the only healing I was doing was a brief burst of healing on people killing inner demons.

After killing leo a few times I now find I have so little healing to do I throw some dots ands smites on Leo

This is a good point. During the demon phase, the only person in the raid taking damage are the tank and the people killing inner demons. Assign 2-3 healers to the tank, and the rest of the healers should be healing those that are fighting demons.