Oprahwinfury

I haven't been able to find a somewhat organized overview of all available Epic loot from heroics anywhere, so I made this list. Be aware that the drop rates shown here are only an estimate based on the assumption that there is a 100% chance to get at least one Epic item, gems aside. If you wish, you can browse a copy of this list that have mouseover links with item stats here.

I left out the Inferno sets deliberately, other than that let me know if you find any errors and I'll correct them.

• Weapons
  
  Daggers
  Feltooth Eviscerator ~25% Drop - Vazruden, Ramparts ilvl 110
  Searing Sunblade 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Vileblade of the Betrayer ~20% Drop - Harbinger Skyriss, The Arcatraz ilvl 105
  
  1-H
  The Bladefist ~25% Drop - Warchief Kargath Bladefist, Shattered Halls ilvl 105
  The Sun Eater ~25% Drop - Pathaleon the Calculator, Mechanar ilvl 105
  Shockwave Truncheon ~20% Drop - Murmur, Shadow Labyrinth ilvl 105
  
  2-H
  Quantum Blade ~25% Drop - Aeonus, Black Morass ilvl 105
  
  Staffs
  Feral Staff of Lashing ~25% Drop - Warp Splinter, Botanica ilvl 105
  Terokk's Shadowstaff ~25% Drop - Talon King Ikiss, Sethekk Halls ilvl 105
  
  Ranged
  Wrathtide Longbow ~25% Drop - Warlord Kalithresh, The Steamvault ilvl 105
  
  Wands
  The Black Stalk ~25% Drop - The Black Stalker, Underbog ilvl 110
  
  
  
• Armor
  
  Cloth
  Mana-Binders Cowl 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Bands of Negation ~20% Drop - Nexus-Prince Shaffar, Mana-Tombs ilvl 110
  Bands of Rarefied Magic ~25% Drop - Warchief Kargath Bladefist, Shattered Halls ilvl 110
  Belt of Depravity ? - Harbinger Skyriss or Murmur ilvl 110
  Sash of Arcane Visions ~33% Drop - Exarch Maladaar, Auchenai Crypts ilvl 110
  Breeches of the Occultist ~25% Drop - Aeonus, Black Morass ilvl 110
  Kirin Tor Master's Trousers ~20% Drop - Murmur, Shadow Labyrinth ilvl 110
  Boots of Blasphemy ~25% Drop - Quagmirran, Slave Pens ilvl 110
  Boots of Ethereal Manipulation ~25% Drop - Warp Splinter, Botanica ilvl 110
  
  Cowl of Naaru Blessings 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Bands of the Benevolent ~25% Drop - Talon King Ikiss, Sethekk Halls ilvl 110
  Cord of Sanctification ~20% Drop - Epoch Hunter, Old Hillsbrad ilvl 110
  Pontifex Kilt ~25% Drop - Warlord Kalithresh, The Steamvault ilvl 110
  Boots of the Pious ~25% Drop - Pathaleon the Calculator, Mechanar ilvl 110
  
  Leather
  Mask of the Deceiver 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Mantle of Shadowy Embrace ~25% Drop - Keli'dan the Breaker, Blood Furnace ilvl 110
  Nightfall Wristguards ~20% Drop - Epoch Hunter, Old Hillsbrad ilvl 110
  Master Thief's Gloves ~20% Drop - Murmur, Shadow Labyrinth ilvl 110
  Girdle of the Deathdealer ~25% Drop - Aeonus, Black Morass ilvl 110
  Midnight Legguards ~25% Drop - Quagmirran, Slave Pens ilvl 110
  Shadowstep Striders ~20% Drop - Harbinger Skyriss, The Arcatraz ilvl 110
  
  Cowl of Beastly Rage 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Forestheart Bracers ~25% Drop - Warchief Kargath Bladefist, Shattered Halls ilvl 110
  Tree-Mender's Belt ~25% Drop - Vazruden, Ramparts ilvl 110
  Forestwalker Kilt ~20% Drop - Nexus-Prince Shaffar, Mana-Tombs ilvl 110
  Barkchip Boots ~25% Drop - The Black Stalker, Underbog ilvl 110
  
  Mail
  Storm Master's Helmet 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Pauldrons of Wild Magic ~25% Drop - Quagmirran, Slave Pens ilvl 110
  Wave-Fury Vambraces ~25% Drop - Warlord Kalithresh, The Steamvault ilvl 110
  Wrath Infused Gauntlets ~25% Drop - Vazruden, Ramparts ilvl 110
  Wave-Song Girdle ~33% Drop - Exarch Maladaar, Auchenai Crypts ilvl 110
  Stormsong Kilt ~25% Drop - The Black Stalker, Underbog ilvl 110
  Wave-Crest Striders ~25% Drop - Keli'dan the Breaker, Blood Furnace ilvl 110
  
  Warpstalker Helm 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Bracers of the Hunt ~25% Drop - Talon King Ikiss, Sethekk Halls ilvl 110
  Handguards of the Steady ~25% Drop - Pathaleon the Calculator, Mechanar ilvl 110
  Girdle of Ferocity ~20% Drop - Murmur, Shadow Labyrinth ilvl 110
  Wyrmscale Greaves ? - Epoch Hunter or Harbinger Skyriss ilvl 110
  Boots of the Endless Hunt ~25% Drop - Warp Splinter, Botanica ilvl 110
  
  Plate
  Faceguard of Determination 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Spaulders of Dementia ~25% Drop - Talon King Ikiss, Sethekk Halls ilvl 110
  Amber Bands of the Aggressor ~25% Drop - Warlord Kalithresh, The Steamvault ilvl 110
  Gauntlets of Dissension ~25% Drop - Warp Splinter, Botanica ilvl 110
  Lion's Heart Girdle ~25% Drop - Vazruden, Ramparts ilvl 110
  Eaglecrest Warboots ~25% Drop - Keli'dan the Breaker, Blood Furnace ilvl 110
  
  Bracers of Dignity ? - Nexus-Prince Shaffar or Harbinger Skyriss ilvl 110
  Girdle of Valorous Deeds ~25% Drop - Aeonus, Black Morass ilvl 110
  Boots of the Righteous Path ? - Warchief Kargath Bladefist or Harbinger Skyriss ilvl 110
  
  Vanquisher's Legplates ~25% Drop - Pathaleon the Calculator, Mechanar ilvl 110
  Greaves of the Martyr ~20% Drop - Epoch Hunter, Old Hillsbrad ilvl 110
  Helmet of the Steadfast Champion 50 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Shields
  Mazthoril Honor Shield 33 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Azure-Shield of Coldarra 33 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  The Fel Barrier ~20% Drop - Nexus-Prince Shaffar, Mana-Tombs ilvl 110
  Light-Bearer's Faith Shield 33 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Cloaks
  Shawl of Shifting Probabilities 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Blood Knight War Cloak 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Farstrider Defender's Cloak 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Bishop's Cloak 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Light-Touched Stole of Altruism ~33% Drop - Exarch Maladaar, Auchenai Crypts ilvl 110
  
  Necklaces
  Manasurge Pendant 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Talisman of the Breaker ~25% Drop - Keli'dan the Breaker, Blood Furnace ilvl 110
  Adamantine Chain of the Unbroken ~25% Drop - Quagmirran, Slave Pens ilvl 110
  Choker of Vile Intent 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Necklace of the Juggernaut 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Necklace of Eternal Hope 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Rings
  Cobalt Band of Tyrigosa ~20% Drop - Nexus-Prince Shaffar, Mana-Tombs ilvl 110
  Yor's Revenge ? - Yor, Mana-Tombs ilvl 100
  Yor's Collapsing Band ? - Yor, Mana-Tombs ilvl 100
  Ring of Conflict Survival ? - Yor, Mana-Tombs ilvl 100
  Ring of Cryptic Dreams 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Eye of the Stalker ~25% Drop - The Black Stalker, Underbog ilvl 110
  Ring of Arathi Warlords 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Ring of Unyielding Force 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Band of Halos 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Trinkets
  Icon of the Silver Crescent 41 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Bloodlust Brooch 41 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Gnomeregan Auto-Blocker 600 41 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Essence of the Martyr 41 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Relics
  Totem of the Pulsing Earth 15 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Libram of Repentance 15 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Everbloom Idol 15 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Off-hands
  Khadgar's Knapsack 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Talisman of Kalecgos 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Flametongue Seal 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Sapphiron's Wing Bone 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Orb of the Soul-Eater 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  Tears of Heaven 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110
  
  Mounts
  Reins of the Raven Lord ? - Anzu, Sethekk Halls
  
  
  
• Gems
  
  Ilvl 70
  
  Caster-oriented
  Potent Fire Opal - Auchenai Crypts
  Shining Fire Opal - Mechanar
  Infused Fire Opal - The Steamvault
  Glowing Tanzanite - Black Morass
  Mysterious Fire Opal - Botanica
  Fluorescent Tanzanite - Blood Furnace
  Polished Chrysoprase - Shattered Halls
  Radiant Chrysoprase - Underbog
  Rune Covered Chrysoprase - Shadow Labyrinth
  Vivid Chrysoprase - Slave Pens
  Lambent Chrysoprase - Underbog
  
  DPS-oriented
  Glinting Fire Opal - Black Morass
  Pristine Fire Opal - Sethekk Halls
  Deadly Fire Opal - The Arcatraz
  Brutal Tanzanite - Botanica
  Jagged Chrysoprase - Blood Furnace
  Enscribed Fire Opal - Mana-Tombs
  Etched Fire Opal - Shadow Labyrinth
  Shifting Tanzanite - The Steamvault
  Sovereign Tanzanite - Shattered Halls
  Assassin's Fire Opal - Mechanar
  Sundered Chrysoprase - The Steamvault
  
  Tank-oriented
  Enduring Chrysoprase - Old Hillsbrad
  Regal Tanzanite - Shadow Labyrinth
  Defender's Tanzanite - Mechanar
  Stalwart Fire Opal - Sethekk Halls
  Glimmering Fire Opal - Black Morass
  Glistening Fire Opal - Mana-Tombs
  Champion's Fire Opal - Auchenai Crypts
  Nimble Fire Opal - The Arcatraz
  Effulgent Chrysoprase - Ramparts
  
  Healing-oriented
  Royal Tanzanite - Slave Pens
  Luminous Fire Opal - Shattered Halls
  Iridescent Fire Opal - Ramparts
  Blessed Tanzanite - Sethekk Halls
  Imperial Tanzanite - Botanica
  Dazzling Chrysoprase - Old Hillsbrad
  Timeless Chrysoprase - Mana-Tombs
  Seer's Chrysoprase - Auchenai Crypts
  
  PvP-oriented
  Steady Chrysoprase - Ramparts
  Empowered Fire Opal - Old Hillsbrad
  Resplendent Fire Opal - Slave Pens
  Splendid Fire Opal - Underbog
  Beaming Fire Opal - Blood Furnace
  Durable Fire Opal - The Arcatraz

Facts we've noticed:

All gems are 'hybrids' (Orange, Purple and Green with 2 different stats).
There are 7 PvP gems with Resilience in the game, 6 of those are boss loot from PvE instances.
There are 6 pieces of tank plate but only 1 piece of DPS plate.
There are 3 pieces of Paladin tank plate but only 1 piece of Holy and Retribution plate respectively.
There are 2 different kinds of (cloth) caster bracers, belts, pants and boots but no shoulders or gloves.
There are no chest pieces to be found.
There is no healing mail at all.
There is no healing or caster leather whatsoever.

This is from a grand total of 99 Epic items and 45 Epic gems that are available from heroics at this point, not counting the mount or the Inferno sets.

 

Boevis

http://www.thottbot.com/i27822 qualifies as a heroic only tanking ring

 

cenzor

Boevis, I guess a blue ring doesn't qualify for an epic-only list.

According to wowhead, Yor can drop an other epic ring, Yor's Revenge. It's a bit confusing that it doesn't show up in Yor's loot-table.

Add: Ring of Unyielding Force 25 x BoJ - G'eras ilvl 110

 

DecimusGarona

Does anyone else find it mildly disturbing that there isn't a single +healing item drop from a heroic that isn't cloth? Hello gaping itemization holes.

Looks like retribution paladins and moonkin got the middle finger from Blizzard as well.

 

Murasame

I've always thought heroic epics were alternative gear ups. Loot for speccs not seen that much in raiding.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com.nyud....28585cNbLI.png

 

Zophos

You make it sound like Blizzard ever gave Retribution and Moonkin something else!

Nonetheless, with the simplification of many Heroics, some of these alternatives look more appealing finally. There has never been a particularly worthwhile waist piece for Affliction Warlocks and Shadow Priests outside of the Belt of Depravity (to my knowledge) - the Nethershard Girdle from Moroes had a wasted item budget in its Spirit, and the Girdle of Ruination and Malefic Girdle both had +spellcrit over +spellhit. At least now that Belt will be a bit easier to come by.

As a mage, I am still disappointed to see so few alternatives for the feet that are much more worthwhile than the Shattrath Jumpers. We've never seen the Boots of Foretelling drop from Maiden (though they weren't worthwhile until 2.1), and several blue pieces had their +spellcrit removed. Heck, I couldn't convince anyone to take the boots from Aran really, so I took them for an alt of mine. The same goes for the wrist piece and the Shattrath Wraps, unless you want to dip down to the crafted Bracers of Havok or are seeking higher stats.

Overall, I think the appeal from Heroics will probably come more from the new gems and the greater acccessibility. I myself am not counting on worthwhile loot from it at this juncture as an adequate and equal alternative even if it is in comparison to potentially poor luck on a longer timer (read: raiding). We'll see, though.

Guild Master - Epignosis

 

Jubling

There's 1 caster weapon and 7 non-caster weapons.

And no chestpieces, and almost no hats, cloaks, trinkets, rings, necklaces or offhands (except from the badge vendor).

So it's not really that much of an alternative to raiding Karazhan if you want to gear up in epics, unless you're a tailor.

 

Lavode

hats, cloaks, and necklaces would be a supreme waste of drop tables. if you are running heroics for gear, you will have badges to burn, and will be wearing the G'eras stuff, which is very good. One handed dps-caster weapons would also be wasted, as there are good reputation awards at exalted from lower city, and honour hold / trallmar.. which you will be exalted with very quickly via the herioc path.

Heroics gave me the bulk of my tank kit http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...+Ring&n=Lavode

Note that earthwarden was also earned via heroic mode - Its a rep reward, and I didnt really set foot in normal steamvaults except at wandpoint after getting revered, and auctioned nearly every armament I ever got.

Chestpieces are a real shortage, I'll grant.. but its one slot.
(and I so want magtheridon to die..)

 

◊ Zoid

What are you talking about:

Head: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27505 (Ruby Helm of the Just)
Shoulder: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27844 (Pauldrons of Swift Retribution)
Chest: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28337 (Breastplate of Righteous Fury)
Belt: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27755 (Girdle of Gallantry)
Legs: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27893 (Ornate Leggings of the Venerated)
Boots: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27884 (Ornate Boots of the Sanctified)
Bracers: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27447 (Bracers of Just Rewards)
Gloves: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27798 (Gauntlets of Vindication)

These are all excellent retribution Paladin gear. They're blues, but they are the best you can get pre-raid. Most of them are ilvl115 blues.

 

ninjastyle

maan, he was talking about epic items

 

Evalara

Pretty much my thoughts. The lack of caster weapons is more or less ok since you can get the HH exalted or LC exalted weapons. But why are there two wrists (both worse than Shattrath Wraps to boot), two belts, two boots, two legs, but no chest, no shoulders, and no hands? I would really like to have seen the needless duplication replaced by items for those missing slots, and maybe some of the more awful ones tweaked to be at least mildly desirable.

 

Cesar2000

Not a single leather healing piece either, relegated to cloth-gear as always :p

 

DecimusGarona

This is itemization that should have been available in regular level 70 5 man instances. I'm not a ret paladin, nor do I know a good retribution paladin. However, I think it is extremely unfair for Blizzard to ignore itemizing entire talent trees - at any level of progression.

There are other ridiculous itemization gaps in the expansion as well - for example, getting +healing bracers for a druid is almost impossible. The first ones you can get from PvE in the entire expansion are from the last boss in heroic mana tombs, and they are only a iLevel 115 blue. Before that, there isn't a single pair of leather +healing bracers available from any of the outlands instances or quests. After that, the next pair of bracers a resto druid gets are from the lurker below in SSC. The only alternatives are through crafting the windhawk BoP bracers, buying the PvP bracers, or downgrading to cloth. This is just for one class, I'm sure there are similar holes for other classes, I'm just not as familiar with them.

For reference on druid healing bracers:
http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&fi...rs=1:1;crv=0:0

 

sahamet

Speaking as a horde ret paladin most of these pieces are not very good. They'd be better for alliance but in general they're much too skimpy with actual melee stats, especially crit, to form a backbone for a solid ret set.

 

Randor

DPS warriors have it the worst, and no helm from badges either. Other than nethers for BS weapons and badges for some trinkets, Heroics are barely worth the trouble/time/gold for respecs.

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Jubling

Some alternatives to the "one size fits all" badge rewards would be nice, like healing items with spirit or spellpower items without crit. Which would fit well as drops, so the people who want them can go for the instance that drops it, while people who aren't fussed for more class specific drops can get the generic rewards.

 

Schneeb

Going from heroic blues to karazhan loot is often a sidegrade at best...

 

Tunch

If you think that, you either havent yet patched to 2.1, or value raw stats a lot less than you should. So many people get tunnel vision when looking at gear. Kara loot was great even before 2.1, it might not have increased your primary stat much, but all your secondary and tertiary stats got a huge boost (certain class/specs exempt due to specific poor itemization).

 

Dothorio

I'm not sure how you can sincerely mean that, considering all the epics that Attumen drops are ilvl 115 while the heroic blues from three of the easier heroics (Mechanar, Underbog, Slave Pens) are also ilvl 115.

Rare ilvl = ItemSlotValue * 1.6 + 1.84
Epic ilvl = ItemSlotValue * 1.3 + 1.30

J'adore quand un plan se déroule sans accroc

 

Crowl

Hats would only be a waste to have been newly added to drop tables, their omission prior to 2.1 was clearly so glaring they had to add a whole new section to the badge rewards themselves.

 

songster

There's a big problem with demanding more itemisation from boss drops: you can't increase the number of bosses without making more instances.

If you keep adding in more items for this spec or that, you end up with huge long loot tables where any one item has a 5% chance of dropping. Is that *really* what you're after?

 

PsiVen

How does the situation look when we include Karazhan? As I recall, there's still a lack of DPS plate, but a plethora of healing gear and chests.
I'd venture to say that much of the heroic gear aims to fill gaps in Kara/Gruul/Mag epics by assuming players will be doing these at roughly the same level.

 

Lumi

Looking at epics alone doesn't really give a complete picture. I mean how many times have shaman hunted for wavefury boots? The blues are often very strong in their slots and should be valued for their stats opposed to their color.

 

DecimusGarona

Personally what I would have liked to have seen is to have all heroic bosses dropping a single epic with a chance at a gem, and make sure all of the bosses are actually mildly challenging. For example, the first boss in slave pens is a total joke and would need to be modified. All that really would need to be done is take the current blue heroic items and convert them to iLvL 110 epics, and distribute them to various bosses so that each has a loot table of around 6 items. By a rough estimation of adding up bosses in outlands instances, there are approximately 50 bosses, or enough for 300 epics, which is plenty to make sure that there is something for everyone.

This would leave plenty of room for itemization for all classes and specs, and would have made heroic runs slightly more rewarding than just omgbadges and a wtfnether. Lockout timers on heroics would probably have to be longer than one day though, to prevent saturation of epics and void crystals - or just create more demand for void crystals through enchanting formulas dropped in heroic instances.

 

• Endahl

Belt of Depravity may have spellhit, but it starts out lower for +dmg than Ruination even before you take double runed living rubies into account. Or you can socket it with double spellhit gems if you really need to (though for shadow priests reaching the hit cap is a trivial affair), and it'll still be more raw +damage than Depravity. The fact that Ruination has crit on the item doesn't really matter when that crit is coming out of the base stat budget (lower int/sta) which hurts less than cutting back the +dmg.

Also agree with the above sentiments that the color of the item name really shouldn't be a metric for which specs the item designers are giving a proverbial middle finger to, since many heroic blues (heck, even normal mode blues) are perfectly raid-viable gear.