Windfury Internal Cooldown and according Group Setup

Harkonnen · 06/02/07, 6:57 AM

After going through some posts here and some others on Blizzard Forums I don't have a clear understanding of the internal cooldown of Windfury. Posts are ranging from 3 seconds up to 40 seconds.
From a Dagger Rogue perspective I also would like to better understand the mechanics of GoA versus Windfury when having an Enhancement Shaman in my group. From my experience during 10 and 25man raids I gained more sustained dps through GoA Totem than through Windfury (measured through SWS Stats 2.1.1).

I would be very thankful if experienced 25man Raiders could help out on my questions.

Harkonnen
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Exewut · 06/02/07, 7:07 AM

The Change to Windfury and You! (does not apply to warriors)

Or do you mean windfury totem resetting the swing? I've heard anecdotal evidence about this, but I doubt it's true.

Harkonnen · 06/02/07, 7:30 AM

Yes I'm talking about the Windfury Reset of the swing.

Example:
1st Windfury proc
... Time that has to pass ... = x Seconds
2nd Windfury proc

From a Rogue PoV. I know that this is different for from Shaman PoV with staggering and/or same WF.

panny · 06/02/07, 10:24 AM

As far as I'm aware, WF totem works exactly like the old Sword Spec talent.

Igniter · 06/02/07, 1:25 PM

A dagger rogue should not have an enh shaman anyways, unless theres no other melee to put in the group. Even then, the rogue should look at respecing (for maxing his potential).

Nitz · 06/02/07, 1:29 PM

What exactly is a "dagger rogue" ? Are you talking about an Assassination or a Combat specced dagger rogue ?

Malan · 06/02/07, 3:27 PM

WF totem does not incur a cooldown its only the shaman weapon enchant that does so.

Harkonnen · 06/03/07, 7:33 AM

With Dagger Rogue during raids I mean a 15-41-5 build.

Igniter:
[quote}dagger rogue should not have an enh shaman anyways, unless theres no other melee to put in the group. Even then, the rogue should look at respecing (for maxing his potential).[/quote]

I am talking of a setup Enhancement Shaman, Feral Druid, 3 Rogues in one group. Respecc from what to what? Could you elaborate that more please?

Harkonnen · 06/03/07, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

WF totem does not incur a cooldown its only the shaman weapon enchant that does so.

Do you have a source for this or is this personal experience?

Ghando · 06/03/07, 1:15 PM

I've had back-to-back WF procs with a 1.80 weapon, using only my totem. No internal cooldown. It behaves exactly like Sword Spec, down to SCT announcing "Extra Attack!" instead of "Windfury!" The damage also shows up as white, and can glance.

As for sources...uhh, I've played a Shaman since November 2004? It's not like there are guys with PhDs publishing papers on this stuff :P

Emily · 06/03/07, 1:45 PM

Source = the big page on WF enchantment on the Class Mechanics forum. It's shaman's self-cast WF weapon enchant only, not the totem, that incurs the 3 sec cooldown on WF re-proccing.

bondy · 06/03/07, 5:35 PM

Told you hark

Igniter · 06/03/07, 6:44 PM

Originally Posted by Harkonnen

With Dagger Rogue during raids I mean a 15-41-5 build.

Igniter:

dagger rogue should not have an enh shaman anyways, unless theres no other melee to put in the group. Even then, the rogue should look at respecing (for maxing his potential).

I am talking of a setup Enhancement Shaman, Feral Druid, 3 Rogues in one group. Respecc from what to what? Could you elaborate that more please?

From daggers to a 41 combat slow mainhand build, which seems to be the best for such a stacked group. (although you'd be better off with a dps warrior for one of the rogues)

Malan · 06/03/07, 6:45 PM

It doesn't matter, he made the post under the flawed assumption that the totem had a 3 sec cooldown and should probably rename the thread before it causes widespread panic among warriors.

Harkonnen · 06/04/07, 5:56 AM

Alright. Thanks for your help guys.