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Old 06/03/07, 3:51 PM   #1
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Hints of Future Content

If you pay attention while playing, you can spot at what seems to be hints of future content.

When Kael is killed, and the Verdant Sphere turned inm this message plays

-Silence descends upon Shattrath
-A'dal's thoughts invade your mind
-Kael'thas Sunstrider has been defeated by $N and (his/her) allies
-The time to strike at the remaining blood elves of Tempest Keep is now.
-Take arms and let A'dal's song of battle empower you!
-Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: Your monkeys failed to finish the job, naaru! Beaten but alive... The same mistake was not made when we took command of your vessel.
-Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: All for what? Trinkets? You are too late. The preparations have already begun. Soon the master will make his return.
-Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: And there is nothing you or that fool, Illidan, can do to stop me! You have both served me in your own right - unwittingly.


Scryer NPC in Netherstorm, Magister Theledorn, says Kael has entered into an Alliance with the Burning Legion, turned his back on Illidan etc.

"As you may have noticed, there are servants of the Burning Legion all over Manaforge Ara. Kael'thas has entered an alliance with the Burning Legion. He must've caught wind of Illidan's descent into insanity and switched paymasters accordingly. "

Is this Sargeras they're referring to? Shrug, this could be unrelated, and "the master" is a rather common term of fealty, but...

While doing Netherwing quests in Shadowmoon, you may notice a giant Black Dragon land in Dragonmaw, and begin to speak with Overlord Mog'hor, her name is Lady Sinestra.

-Lady Sinestra says: Overlord Mor'ghor, I presume... A pleasure to finally make your acquaintance. I am Lady Sinestra.
-Overlord Mor'ghor says: I will not drag this out any further than it needs, -Lady Sinestra. You have bent my ear, now tell me what it is that you want from the Dragonmaw.
-Lady Sinestra says: You have no doubt heard about Nefarian's failures on Azeroth... While he has fallen, the experiment continues. My master... He continues the work that his progeny began.
-Overlord Mor'ghor says: The... The master? He lives?
-Lady Sinestra nods.
-Lady Sinestra says: You were once a chief lieutenant, Mor'ghor. Your work in Grim Batol is not easily forgotten. Now... We need the eggs that you recovered. The Netherwing eggs. They are, after all, a product of the master. We will pay whatever price that you ask.
-Overlord Mor'ghor stammers.
-Overlord Mor'ghor says: Ye... Yes, yes... Of course. We need only the crystals and ore from this place. There is... We will need mounts.
-Lady Sinestra says: The master will be most pleased with this news. The Black Dragonflight will provide you all that you ask. You will be allowed to ride upon the backs of our drakes as needed. I thank you for your graciousness, Mor'ghor. I must now take my leave.


Now, she makes the same reference to her superior as "the master."They both share a name, Deathwing the Destroyer and Sargeras the Destroyer, although likely just coincidence. Am I just bored at work and seeing mountains in the place of molehills, shrug, I think we will be seeing more of these two in the next round of content.

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Old 06/03/07, 3:58 PM   #2
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It's more likely that the Master kael refers to is the current master of the legion... The 2nd general of saregas.. you had Arcimond.. and one more...

Kil'Jaedan or something aint it? Illidan fucked up and failed to kill arthas.. this pissed of kil jaeden thats why illidal hides in outlands... It would seem that Kael's master would be illidan...

The second does indeed sound like Deathwing

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Old 06/03/07, 4:11 PM   #3
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Yeah the first definitely sounds like it's referring to Kil'Jaedan which would be one hell of a fight

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Old 06/03/07, 4:16 PM   #4
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Well, in terms of Legion lineup, Kil'Jadean is below Sargeras, although it would likely be we would fight Kil'Jadean, which I didn;t even think of. The second is obviously Deathwing, although the intertwinement of the two is unknown, although could be possible.

While Alexstrasza may be keeping the Demon Soul under lock in Grim Batol, it is very unlikely now she is also holding Neltharion, as he is obviously back "in the game". No pun.

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Old 06/03/07, 4:50 PM   #5
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The article that mentioned guild banks also talked about future TBC content. Kil'Jaedan was mentioned as a boss for the next big raid dungeon.

It also mentioned that hero classes were dead and would probably never be implemented.

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Old 06/03/07, 4:56 PM   #6
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Well uh, there we go :P

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Old 06/03/07, 5:39 PM   #7
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Sargeras is dead for all intents and purposes. I don't personally think we'll <ever> fight him.

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Old 06/03/07, 5:41 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Sokkou View Post
Well, in terms of Legion lineup, Kil'Jadean is below Sargeras, although it would likely be we would fight Kil'Jadean, which I didn;t even think of. The second is obviously Deathwing, although the intertwinement of the two is unknown, although could be possible.

While Alexstrasza may be keeping the Demon Soul under lock in Grim Batol, it is very unlikely now she is also holding Neltharion, as he is obviously back "in the game". No pun.
AFAIK, Neltharion is the one who has (or at least very recently had) Alexstrasza imprisoned - he used her to mother the first dragons of the Black Dragonflight. The Demon Soul, is, I believe, still held by Neltharion too.

Edit: Scratch that, The Demon Soul was destroyed by Rhonin.

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Old 06/03/07, 5:44 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by snape View Post
Sargeras is dead for all intents and purposes. I don't personally think we'll <ever> fight him.
We said the same of Archimonde, yes? I don't think we can rule anything out

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Old 06/03/07, 5:50 PM   #10
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Ahh the joys of the caverns of time, they could make us fight nefarian and onyxia all over again if they wanted. Hah, they could even make us fight *with* onyxia and nefarian. The joys of being able to make content where time travel and split story lines are present. Bronze Dragonflight ftw.

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Old 06/03/07, 6:33 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
The article that mentioned guild banks also talked about future TBC content. Kil'Jaedan was mentioned as a boss for the next big raid dungeon.

It also mentioned that hero classes were dead and would probably never be implemented.
Would you happen to have a link to this article? I read one with a bit of info on guild banks, VOIP, and designing Zul'Aman as a 10-man, but lacking those other bits.

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Old 06/03/07, 9:01 PM   #12
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Grim Batol ?

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Old 06/03/07, 9:17 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by missiletoad View Post
Zul'Aman as a 10-man
Oh dear lord, I hope not.

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Old 06/03/07, 9:23 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Rinced View Post
Grim Batol ?
From WoWWiki:

During the Second War, Grim Batol was the center of all refining operations for the Horde's navy. It was also the main base of the Horde's dragon breeding program, where Alexstrasza the Red was kept captive and forced to produce Red Dragons to be used as mounts for Orc Dragonriders. Grim Batol remained in Orc hands long after the collapse of the Horde and the destruction of the Dark Portal, largely due to the power of their dragons. Eventually, thanks to the efforts of a band of unlikely heroes led by the mage Rhonin, Alexstrasza was freed. The Dragon queen immediately set about incinerating every Orc she could find, utterly destroying the power of the Dragonmaw Clan and killing its leader, the Orc Warlock Nekros. Currently, the abandoned ruins of Grim Batol have been turned into a hatchery by the Red Dragons. The ruins of the Orc caravan that tried to escape the fortress can still be seen strewn around the entrance.

His "work" in Grim Batol was likely related to the imprisonment of Alextrasza the Red and the taming of her Dragonflight.

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Old 06/03/07, 9:47 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
The article that mentioned guild banks also talked about future TBC content. Kil'Jaedan was mentioned as a boss for the next big raid dungeon.
Yea, gonna need a source for this. I'd say it's too soon to fight someone as powerful as Kil'Jaeden, but given the fact that you fight Archimonde.. I don't know. It would seem pretty silly if you managed to effectively dismember the Burning Legion, the great evil force of the universe.

However, I agree with the assessment that Kael is referring to Kil'Jaeden as his master and that Deathwing is the other master, although the Black Dragonflight and Burning Legion are probably allied.... but I can see a Deathwing instance being added before a Kil'Jaeden one.

Sargeras is dead for all intents and purposes. I don't personally think we'll <ever> fight him.
Dead? Nah... he's been banished to the Nether or something, but I can see his revival being a plot point in a future expansion, namely the Maelstrom one whenever that comes out. Will we fight him? Maybe in a nascent form, like C'Thun..

Grim Batol ?
The red dragonflight stronghold in Wetlands... it's on Blizzard's agenda, I guess.

Oh dear lord, I hope not.
It's been more or less confirmed that ZA will be 10-man, which is fine by me, since I think a casual UBRS-like 10-man is what's lacking in the game atm. However, ZA seems to be a little big to fill that role, so... who knows. In any case, it's not going to be a Tier 7 instance or whatever, I'm sure it'll be less than Tier 5.

But as for Blizzard's actual agenda... it seems like Zul'Aman is the main thing being worked on, and after that... who knows. I'm still looking forward to the Sunwell Plateau being added.

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