The author of Outfitter and I are trying to design a script that can automatically switch weapons based on whether or not one is in the 5 second rule.
Yes, I know this incurs a global cooldown.
Previously, we'd been using the event PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, but that is health regen, not mana. Is there a similar API call that uses mana regen, and fires when you're inside and outside the 5sr?

You are absolutely right Polleke, thank you.

May I please have a mod move this into the Mods section?
Thank you.

Nope, theres no event for detecting the 5 second rule, as was said above you have to use a combination of events + timer to detect it.

Sorry if I derail a bit, but when exactly do the mana regeneration ticks happen?

Is it like energy for rogues, who get their energy ticks on a global timer?
(I.e. if you cast a spell that costs mana, you get your first tick 5-7s after your cast, depending on when your cast happens in the gloal timer.)
Or is it on a timer that ticks after spending mana?
(I.e. after you cast your spell, you always get your next tick of mana 7s (or 5s) after your cast, indepependant of exact timing.)

I'm still trying to figure that one out for evocation and weapon swapping.

Edit: Thanks for the replies that it's a global timer when all your mana regens ticks.

I'm pretty sure it behaves just like the regular energy ticks that rogues deal with. I'm not sure how often the energy ticks are, but for mana they happen every 2.5 seconds, which can easily be seen if you use Scrolling Combat Text and enable it to show all power gains(you'll see roughly half the mp5 listed on your character screen pop up every 2.5 seconds)

Regen ticks are every 2 seconds. Also confirmed ... somewhat, by having in combat regen % and seeing what the char screen says for your class regen formula. And as far as I saw from my druid it's a global tick, like energy.

I do not think you can automatically change the weapon, to be honest with you I think making a plugin which adds the 5 second rule to SCT would be something you can look for, though I could be wrong and it is possible, considering Wardrobe 2 looks for the combat flag to drop before switching items if you try midcombat

Thanks for all the thoughts everyone,

Currently, we're writing a script using Chronos's timers and the UNIT_MANA event that should accomplish what we're looking for. I'm testing it tonight, and will provide updates tomorrow.

I was stupid yesterday. Closetgnome_Switcher actually changes gear out on events, like evocate..... You might want to try and use this as a base mod, borrowing most of the code, and just changing the 'trigger'.

I wrote some early 5sr mods. IIRC, the only way to know if 5sr begins is when UNIT_MANA ("player") goes down at the same time as a SPELL_STOP_CASTING. IIRC, he only other check you have to do is for channeling--regen disabled the entire channel time. I can't remember if it resumes immediately after channel ends (assuming you channeled 5+ seconds) or if it tacks on another 5 sec at the end.

I'll add a bit of info: the Pitbull power bar is for lack of better words, wrong. It's mainly a guide to help along. Spirit (and Energy) tick every 2 seconds:

0:00 Spirit tick. Oh shit tank needs a heal.
0:01 Start casting a 1.5 second spell.
0:02 Spirit tick. Still casting.
0:03 Spell finishes casting at 2.5 seconds.
0:04 Spirit tick but no gain due to 5sr.
0:05 Nothing.
0:06 Spirit tick but no gain due to 5sr.
0:07 Nothing.
0:08 Spirit tick outside of 5sr.
0:09 Nothing.
0:10 Spirit tick outside of 5sr.


Basically the heal casted at 2.5 seconds will put you inside the 5sr until the 8 seconds mark, not the 7.5 second. What would be really helpful is a mod that tracks every spirit tick (kinda like energy watch mods) and tracks the time of the last spell that landed the caster inside the 5sr until the next full spirit tick.



Edit: For the disbelievers, simply play a Warlock and use Life Drain. You'll see that it sometimes takes "a while" to get the first spirit tick after the spell finishes.