2.1.2 Patch Notes and discussion - Page 2

Igniter · 06/19/07, 8:31 PM

Sad to see the vashj trinket forgotten

Russta · 06/19/07, 8:42 PM

Didn't they say there were fixing the incredibly annoying inability to target things through walls that popped up last patch? I'm sure I read that on blue tracker recently...

Either way, assuming I'm not crazy, it's not fixed. I'm standing here in SSC unable to target any mobs or people through the flags at the start area.

And here I was, hoping I wouldn't have to worry about Mind Vision or "camera exploits" to mark up that Crimsonhand Battle Mage in the first pack leading to Kael'thas!

Mikari · 06/19/07, 8:59 PM

Originally Posted by Russta

I've honestly never worked with a .tga file but I'm not really sure anything could be worse than .jpeg as a medium for a fresh file to work with.

If you're aware of how to enforce this change in the game, let me know and I'll give it a whirl.

Tga is lossless like png so it's much better than jpg to work with. To make WoW output screenshots in tga format just add the following to your config.wtf

SET screenshotFormat "tga"
SET screenshotQuality "10"

Kuai · 06/19/07, 9:51 PM

New ring from Hydross

Band of Vile Agression
37stam
25 resilience 50 AP

"omg pve to get pvp gear hurr".

HaklePrime · 06/19/07, 9:52 PM

Originally Posted by Kuai

New ring from Hydross

Band of Vile Agression
37stam
25 resilience 50 AP

"omg pve to get pvp gear hurr".

Yeah, we got that tonight as well. I'll be forwarding whatever other new drops I see to the wowhead guys. Anyone who uses that client should as well

tiberion02 · 06/19/07, 9:55 PM

Kinda depressing to see resilience rings dropping from Hydross, I'm sure we'll end up seeing more of this type of item in the next few days.

Also, Mark of the Illidari are now marked as Uncommon (green), making distribution easier since you cant use the poor item threshold script now.

Kytrarewn · 06/19/07, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Erongg

Did they...did they really make a change to the Devout set 6-piece bonus? So odd.

They also made a change to the level 52 Rogue-only Quest-reward helm from Ravenholdt Manor.

Still, though, it's nice to see Blizzard's still dedicating to rounding out and fixing their game at all levels.

Asheron's Call 2 had this problem on both ends. Toward the end of the game, Turbine spent massive amounts of effort helping out either the very peak of the end-game (levels 80-95), and the very earliest parts of the game (1-30), without doing much for the 65-80 grind that killed away most of its customers.

Not saying that WoW is on the verge of death as AC2 was (far from it), but it's nice to see that they're not ignoring the "not-yet 60/70" players/alts in their effort to make the game better.

Veng · 06/19/07, 10:31 PM

Undocumented changes that we've seen so far include the fact that Warlock's can no longer recast Banish to get it to break, and rogues can't Cloak out of Acid Geyser. Odd changes.

Tacitus · 06/19/07, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Veng

Undocumented changes that we've seen so far include the fact that Warlock's can no longer recast Banish to get it to break, and rogues can't Cloak out of Acid Geyser. Odd changes.

Such a shame, I just recently discovered that Banish trick and was enjoying it :/

Beliandra · 06/19/07, 10:57 PM

The code to make items from mail auto-merge with stacks in your backpack has returned. You know, the function that caused mass item loss and a hasty hotfix and reboot last patch?

Hope it works better now.

Inudemon · 06/19/07, 11:01 PM

Got it off Lurker tonight.

Vhad · 06/19/07, 11:05 PM

I realize I posted this in the other thread too, but I reckon it'll get heaped so I'll post here too.

Why on earth did they put pvp gear in SSC? This is just silly, they certainly didn't have to add more drops to the bosses loot tables, let alone pvp gear... Should've put those items on trash instead of wasting a possibly good loot spot on lurker/hydross.

RK · 06/19/07, 11:05 PM

I don't know that I'm thrilled about pure PVP items (as opposed to PVP-oriented items that are still quite useful in raids) dropping in raids, especially post-facto. Makes it that much slower for latecomers to catch up in gearing (the inverse of the change to T4/T5 tokens dropping).

It will also make pure PVPers unhappy that raiders get access to top PvP gear (which was a lasting complaint in 1.x). And is the inverse of the philosophy which saw arenas give gear with bonus armor, stamina and resilience while PvE tier sets are designed for PvE.

Decisions which are the reverse of not one but two of their previous design tenets are... surprising.

vorda · 06/19/07, 11:07 PM

Why on earth did they put pvp gear in SSC? This is just silly, they certainly didn't have to add more drops to the bosses loot tables, let alone pvp gear... Should've put those items on trash instead of wasting a possibly good loot spot on lurker/hydross.

I agree, pvp rings may have been an itemisation hole that had to be closed, but is adding more useless PvP trash to SSC really helping it any? Shouldv just been on honor PvP vendors.

edit: Anything changed about hydross and his rather 'creative' pulls and slow reaction time on shifts? (or even worse, not shifting at all)

♦ Oggie · 06/19/07, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Inudemon

Got it off Lurker tonight.

Pally tank ring!

Because I sure know a lot of pallies who aren't 490 defense...

Honestly, I have no idea. Maybe it was supposed to be defense? That would make it a very sexy ring for a stunningly narrow subset of people...and the AP one just baffles me because I can't quite come up for a valid reason for it.

Illundai · 06/19/07, 11:15 PM

It's part of the "Convert PvP'ers to PvE"-campaign.

vorda · 06/19/07, 11:20 PM

edit: nvm, turning too much in a WoW.com post.

Balkoth · 06/19/07, 11:28 PM

Like noted earlier, the Skettis Escort quest has been changed (for the worse). It is also 2 healing potions instead of 3 as it was pre-patch. I did not see any mention of this in the patch notes.

2 Volatile Healing Potion http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28100 or 2 Unstable Mana Potion http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28101 is the current reward, if I recall correctly from earlier today.

Zyla · 06/19/07, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Inudemon

Got it off Lurker tonight.

Beaneath indeed.

How do you report an item designer here?

Ariex · 06/19/07, 11:53 PM

Kind of weird to see a Buffy the Vampire Slayer reference.

for those wondering "From Beneath you it devours" was the initial description of the final "big bad" in the final season of the show and it's army came through the Seal of Danthzar.

I feel like such a dork for knowing that.

Painful · 06/20/07, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

Had there been any talk of Lurker Below being fixed for his spout issues and his other bugs?

This is something I was also hoping to see, having just killed Lurker for the second time last night, but dealing with a few buggy wipes in the process.

Ganon · 06/20/07, 12:32 AM

Band of the Vigilant off Morogrim tonight

Unique
Finger
+33 Sta
21 spell crit
21 resilience
46 +healing

I'm trying to come up with scenarios where this would be useful in raids

Kazanir · 06/20/07, 12:33 AM

It's clearly a boomkin pvp ring; we'll see a 5v5 all-moonkin team dominate the finals this season and they will all be wearing that ring

panny · 06/20/07, 12:36 AM

Fire Elemental Totem now cause guards to aggro them when dropped in neutral cities.

• sadris · 06/20/07, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Ganon

I'm trying to come up with scenarios where this would be useful in raids

They are trying to entice people who only PVP to go complete their content. Everyone says "PVE armor is worthless in PVP," and is correct, so no PVPers have a reason to do PVE content. Adding items such as these, *in addition to removing attunements* makes PVE content desirable and accessible to PVPers.