Patch 2.1.3 Undocumented changes - Page 4

Sarutobi · 07/11/07, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by snape

One could query a Warglaive of Azzinoth for a "comparison".

Tier set tokens could also work since their drop rates are significantly higher than 14%. Would check myself but it's blocked from work.

Sarutobi · 07/11/07, 1:05 PM

EDIT: double posted somehow.

Alandriel · 07/11/07, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

too bad you can't equip a Binding to see what the drop rate really was.

On the US site I was able to search for item "windseeker" and pull up both halves, but both showed up as 3-14% drop rates.

Malan · 07/11/07, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sarutobi

Tier set tokens could also work since their drop rates are significantly higher than 14%. Would check myself but it's blocked from work.

Tiered tokens can't be seen in the armory though, only the resulting vendor bought epic can be equipped. And if you check your armory all the token based items say "Vendor" at the bottom, no drop rate info given.

pinchet · 07/11/07, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by Conier

It is very possible this was the case before and I was just too dense to realize it, but did anyone else notice Morogrim's Watery Grave not setting off Prayer of Mending last night? I know the fall damage never triggered the heal, but the frost explosion always did, I thought. Not a major concern, just a mild irritant of course.

Unless I am just dumb, which is quite possible, I believe the frost damage never did set it off before. I had first tried it when we were learning Morogrim and I didn't think it worked then so I hadn't tried since.

Valkyrus · 07/11/07, 1:29 PM

Any of the people who have done Archimonde post patch, can you tell me if pets are still affected by doomfire?

Buiden · 07/11/07, 1:59 PM

Mentioned briefly earlier, but previously phase 5 kael the birds would just despawn during gravity lapse, now they do not. They definitely still spawn in phase 5 I think we got 1 or 2, people just kill him so fast you don't really notice them I guess

The al'ar hitbox change is HUGE. Basically turned the most annoying to tank fight into one of the more fun fights for myself (and all the melee). You can actually spread out and avoid flame patches and when he charges off taunt him quickly so he doesn't flame buffet 800 times while you get back to his 1 yard hitbox.

Deris · 07/11/07, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by Valkyrus

Any of the people who have done Archimonde post patch, can you tell me if pets are still affected by doomfire?

Yes, AggroCrag and Sean died in a magficient blaze of glory last night.

I really hate pets.

xani · 07/11/07, 2:09 PM

Bug list as posted by blue via MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Guides and Raid Strategies

General

* Shoulder armor is significantly smaller on Orc Males than previously.
* Male Night Elf Off-Hand Weapons are not properly aligned with the hand.
* Dwarven Female off-hand equipped items are universally over sized.
* Bloodelf male's legs clip into all chairs in the game.

Environment

* There is a chair in Sunfury Spire which is displaying internal information upon mouseover.
* Adamantite Bound Chests and Heavy Fel Iron Chests contain improper loot.

Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* Critical strike damage reduction percentage gained from resilience rating increases as the attacking player gains more +critical strike damage bonus talents.
* The abilities Blazing Speed and Retaliation do not work correctly when you are attacked while on a mount.
* Cyclone can prevent a player from receiving battleground marks when the battleground ends.
* If a character with immunity (ice block, divine protection) resists a mass dispel, the immunity effect is still removed.

Quests

* The Stealth ability of the coaxed marmots in the Blade's Edge quest "The Smallest Creatures" is immediately deactivating upon cast.
* Discarding the Darkrune from "Banishing the Demons" can prevent player from continuing the chain permanently.
* Turning in the Deathwing Brood Cloak with full inventory results in no reward.
* Obsidia, as well as other Blade's Edge Dragons, will not always answer when summoned.
* Multiple Resonating Skulls can be obtained from a single Fetid Skull for the Eastern Plaguelands quest Marauders of Darrowshire.
* The quest, “Becoming a Spellfire Tailor" summons two Furious Nether-wraiths instead of one.

Items

* The Chance on Hit effect for the two-handed mace "World Breaker" fades before the +crit it provides can be utilized.
* Two piece Warlock "Corruptor" set bonus does not work in conjunction with heal over time spells.
* The item "Spyglass of The Hidden Fleet" is unable to be used while in druid shapeshift form.
* Unstable Talasite does not satisfy Red gem socket requirements despite tooltip.
* Sul'thraze the Lasher is not showing the unholy effect nor any other enchant effect.
* The trinket, Figurine of the Colossus, is being put on a global cooldown when casting spells.
* Figurine of the Colossus becomes grayed-out on the action bar when a character has no mana.
* There is an inconsistency in the Strength attribute for the Paladin PvP items Veteran's Scaled Greaves and Veteran's Scaled Belt.
* The Merciless Gladiator's Legguards does not match the rest of the set items.
* There is an inconsistency on the critical strike rating on Gladiator's Leather Spaulders.
* There is an inconsistency with the Warbringer Armor two-piece set bonus description.
* Using Mr. Pinchy when your inventory is full results in a "Inventory is full" error and uses a charge but does not grant an item.
* Some Guardian Elixirs do not stack to 20.
* The item level for Shuriken of Negation is not consistent with the other items from Gruul.
* Runed Ornate Ruby and Bold Ornate Ruby are marked Unique-Equipped but only one can be in the players inventory.
* Some spells do not trigger the Enlightenment buff given by using the item, Pendant of the Violet Eye.
* The cooldown for the Gnomish Poultryizer is triggered even if the item cannot be used due to a Silence effect.
* Crossbow and gun animations are not stopping once a player has fired the weapon.
* Crystalline Crossbow is held in the character's hands improperly.
* Shooting while under the effects of Time-Lost Figurine displays no Shoot Animation.
* Edgewalker Longboots have an inconsistent armor value.
* When arrows are pulled back on The Black Bow of the Betrayer they stick straight up.
* The Merciless Gladiator's Plate Helm does not disable facial hair.
* Facial hair shows through the Merciless Gladiator's Mooncloth Hood.
* Players facial hair clips through the helm Merciless Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover.
* Hair clips through the back of the Crown of the Sun.
* The Merciless Gladiator's Mail Helm clips player hair.
* The Merciless Gladiator's Mooncloth Hood and Merciless Gladiator's Satin Hood clips player hair.
* The Merciless Gladiator's Ringmail Helm clips player hair.
* Crown of Empowered Fate is removing hair when equipped.
* Player facial hair clips through some Hood of Primal Life and Windscale Hood.
* The heal proc from the Battlemaster enchant knocks partied characters out of stealth.
* Masquerade Gown procs on non-spell casts.

User Interface

* The Pet info window will re-open whenever dismounting if the character info window is closed while the pet info tab is active.
* Hunter Pets with more then 12 skills can not access the second page of the spellbook.
* Players in cross-server battlegrounds can't use the target function in the Who List UI on players from different servers.

Monsters and NPCs

* Some major city guards ignore both Feign Death and Vanish.
* Player pets spawn in mid-air when the dragonmaw illusion is applied.
* Pets who are currently desummoned from mounting when a battleground ends will be lost after leaving the battleground.
* Dragonmaw Peons have improper pickpocket loot..
* Ahab Wheathoof is appearing when Track Beasts is enabled.

Druid
Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* The Healing Aura from Tree of Life is not being applied party members at full range.
* Druid talent Mangle's duration icon isn't being refreshed properly on reapplication.
* The Druid talent Force of Nature causes stealthed party members to lose their stealth.
* Druids are able to learn Dire Bear form before learning Bear form.

Hunter
Spells, Talents & Abilities

* Hunter's Mark does not properly update itself when re-applied.
* Pets dismissed when a hunter mounts do not have their buffs decay in real time.

Paladin
Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* A stunned paladin can cast Blessing of Protection on another player.
* A sapped paladin can cast Blessing of Protection on another player.
* Blessing of Kings and Greater Blessing of Kings have different animations.

Priest
Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* Undead Priest ability Touch of Weakness interrupts wand shooting.
* Pain Suppression is not properly affecting the chance to resist dispel mechanics.
* Pain Suppression is not gaining the benefit of Silent resolve or it's own 65% chance to resist dispel.
* The Priest talent proc Surge of Light is consuming mana and can crit when used.
* The spellsurge enchant does not proc when casting dispel or purge.
* Priest talent Pain Suppression is not properly affecting the chance to resist dispel mechanics.

Rogue
Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* Gnome male animation for "Mutilate" causes the main hand dagger to stick through the gnome's shoulder.
* A rogue who uses sap on another player on PvE server will not be flagged for PvP.

Shaman
Spells, Talents, & Abilities

* Weapons appear on the model when shamans attack in ghost wolf form.

Sarutobi · 07/11/07, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Tiered tokens can't be seen in the armory though, only the resulting vendor bought epic can be equipped. And if you check your armory all the token based items say "Vendor" at the bottom, no drop rate info given.

If you're looking at the set items equipped on a character, that's correct. However, if you go to the page for the boss (eg. Prince Malchezaar) the set tokens are shown as a drop from the boss with (on the EU armory since I can't get to the US one from work) a drop rate. For Prince they show up as having a 'medium' chance to drop.

Sekkyo · 07/11/07, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by Faerun

"Fixed a crash bug triggered by many unit frame addons."

I love you Blizzard. Too bad this is right after AV weekend!

Is this the bug that resulted in people crashing when reconnecting while being in SSC/TK, unless all addons were disabled, followed by a successful logout, and enabling all addons?

snape · 07/11/07, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by Sarutobi

If you're looking at the set items equipped on a character, that's correct. However, if you go to the page for the boss (eg. Prince Malchezaar) the set tokens are shown as a drop from the boss with (on the EU armory since I can't get to the US one from work) a drop rate. For Prince they show up as having a 'medium' chance to drop.

Can you do this with notoriously unlikely drops? Like...Baron Rivendare's Mount? Or the Phoenix from Kael'Thas? Or only for ultimately equippable items? If so, the Eye of Sulfuras could be a good candidate (although not technically a token).

Sarutobi · 07/11/07, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by snape

Can you do this with notoriously unlikely drops? Like...Baron Rivendare's Mount? Or the Phoenix from Kael'Thas? Or only for ultimately equippable items? If so, the Eye of Sulfuras could be a good candidate (although not technically a token).

It can be done for anything as far as I know. I believe the only condition is that it has to have either dropped for someone, or been in someone's inventory/equipped at some point in time. (after the armory went live?)

Deathcharger's Reins

Eye of Sulfuras shows up as well with a drop rate of 'low'.

ayb · 07/11/07, 2:39 PM

Kinda funny seeing my weapons in my little puppy paws

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groktar · 07/11/07, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by Sekkyo

Is this the bug that resulted in people crashing when reconnecting while being in SSC/TK, unless all addons were disabled, followed by a successful logout, and enabling all addons?

It seems to be since we didn't have any problems like that last night. It was easier to just boot them from the raid before they logged in though.

Bryne · 07/11/07, 4:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sekkyo

Is this the bug that resulted in people crashing when reconnecting while being in SSC/TK, unless all addons were disabled, followed by a successful logout, and enabling all addons?

It's the bug that caused some users of unitframes with 3D portraits to crash due to some mob models not having default camera angle data, mostly Mac users, as I understand it.

• Fogbug · 07/11/07, 4:38 PM

* Ahab Wheathoof is appearing when Track Beasts is enabled.

huh, does this mean that ahab wheathoof shows up as a beast on the tracking map, or did they get spell effects crossed again and make it so trying to use "track beasts" summons ahab wheathoof?

Faerun · 07/11/07, 4:41 PM

Originally Posted by bryne

It's the bug that caused some users of unitframes with 3D portraits to crash due to some mob models not having default camera angle data, mostly Mac users, as I understand it.

I was under the impression it was with any unitframes you used, whether they used 3D portraits or not. It definitely happened to me using PitBull where I had 3D portraits disabled.

• Vykromond · 07/11/07, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by snape

Can you do this with notoriously unlikely drops? Like...Baron Rivendare's Mount? Or the Phoenix from Kael'Thas? Or only for ultimately equippable items? If so, the Eye of Sulfuras could be a good candidate (although not technically a token).

Deathcharger's Reins (Rivendare mount): Extremely Low (1% - 2%) (Runeblade of Baron Rivendare is also listed as Extremely Low)
Ashes of Al'ar (Phoenix mount): Very Low (3% - 14%)
Eye of Sulfuras: Very Low (3% - 14%)
Both Bindings of the Windseeker: Very Low (3% - 14%)

Interestingly, the Talisman of Binding Shard also shows up, although without a drop listing. So does Essence of the Firelord DEPRECATED. Consequently, it seems that this isn't just stuff equipped/inventoried by people since the Armory started but since ever.

wikberget · 07/11/07, 4:51 PM

Originally Posted by snape

Can you do this with notoriously unlikely drops? Like...Baron Rivendare's Mount? Or the Phoenix from Kael'Thas? Or only for ultimately equippable items? If so, the Eye of Sulfuras could be a good candidate (although not technically a token).

Baron's Mount, Extremely low (1-2%)
The Phoenix mount, Very low (3-14%)
Bindings + Eye of Sulfuras, Very low drop rate

EDIT: Bah, Vykromond was faster.

Bender · 07/11/07, 5:01 PM

Originally Posted by wikberget

Baron's Mount, Extremely low (1-2%)
The Phoenix mount, Very low (3-14%)
Bindings + Eye of Sulfuras, Very low drop rate

EDIT: Bah, Vykromond was faster.

Seeing this leads me to belive the drop rates on the armory is completely rubbish, there is no way in goddamn hell that Deathcharger's reins is between 1-2%.

snape · 07/11/07, 5:03 PM

Well, at least it's the lowest of the percentages listed. (Small comfort, I know.) Ok, actually, it's no comfort.

Stoic · 07/11/07, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by Fogbug

huh, does this mean that ahab wheathoof shows up as a beast on the tracking map, or did they get spell effects crossed again and make it so trying to use "track beasts" summons ahab wheathoof?

The former. A dot corresponding to Ahab Wheathoof appears on your minimap when Track Beasts is active.

Marroc · 07/11/07, 5:07 PM

Originally Posted by Vykromond

...Interestingly, the Talisman of Binding Shard also shows up...

That is odd indeed... I didn't think the person who had that still played (account isn't active). If that is the case then the armory is pulling it's information from someplace other than simply "how often has this been seen by all characters," and if that is true then sites like wowhead have a whole new pool of information open to them (rather than having to do all of the drop rate calculations themselves).

Darksong · 07/11/07, 5:16 PM

Weapons in a male orc's offhand are smaller than they should be.

I first suspected this with Boggspine knuckles, and I've confirmed it as much as I can through lots of dressing room use.