Personally I consider it to be pretty damn good news to know that the phoenix mount has a better drop chance than beron's mount. Pre-BC I think only 1 person on SR ever actually got that to drop.

Yes, I disagree that the rates are "complete rubbish" and agree that the armory has to be pulling something internal. Some of the results may be wrong or oversimplified but the peculiarities bear further examination, at least.

Consider a quest item like the Head of the Broodlord Lashlayer or the Essence of the Firelord. The Armory lists them both as High drop rate (50% - 99%). But these will only drop if someone in your raid has the quest. In the case of the former, that was 0% of the time until the AQ40 opening event, and for the latter, having the quest is a fairly rare occurrence- Thottbot and WoWHead list the droprate as 1%.

Hah. And confirming what every mage already knew, the ToEP is listed as 3-14% drop rate.

Went to go grab a screenie this morning, and he's back at the original location. Decidedly strange.

Demo Roar rank 6 (347 ap) stacks with rank 7 Curse of Weakness (257 ap).

So does Demo Shout rank 7 (300 unimproved) with rank 7 CoW.

It seems that the shout has to be up first. Is this a new phenomenon?

Regarding some of those posted patch 'bugs' I thought Bliz said that Blazing Speed working while mounted was a bug, and removed it in a smaller patch. Or did I read that wrong, and it's procing while mounted again?

Another change I have found is one with the Warbringer Battle-Helm, in which the socket-bonus used to be 4 resilience only, but now an additional 4 hit bonus has been added. I checked the tier 4 vendor and the bonus is only 4 hit, so it looks like you get both bonuses, if you socketed the item pre-patch, otherwise you just get 4 resil.

A lot of the bugs on Al'ar are fixed. The hitbox one was already mentioned - but the explosions killing people too close to the walls was adjusted (not a bug, but annoying even if it was controllable). He also doesn't behave nearly as erratically in phase 1 or 2 for us. I can't really put my finger on it beyond that :o

Yes. Also curses target them. His doomfire doesn't spawn in front of him now always. I never saw him before today though, so it's what I gather from videos/these threads.

So is doomfire still the lotto ball that determines if loot is going to drop on this fight? I mean does it specifically behave differently? Or can it still venture off into nowhere...
It really frustrates me that you can have two back to back pulls of archimonde - one where he is trivial, another where he is nearly impossible. I guess that's the fight though.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hilarious that Orc Shoulders won't be able to be fixed until the next major patch? Everyone on Mal'ganis is continuously whining about it.

Fires can spawn behind him now, he seems to spawn more, but they also seem to despawn quicker, we had one try with everyone behind him like normal but there was way too much fire damage from the extra fires, changed positions around the next try and he went down just as easily as before.

As far as I know it has always been like that, you had to demo shout first.
Well the orc shoulder thingy is the worst bug that could have ever occurred to those who picked orcs just for the badass look like me.And waiting till next major patch is just hilarious.

The mana wyrms in the trash packs before Curator were significantly nerfed in HP.

That happened in 2.1 didn't it, or was that just the similar packs after him?

It happened in 2.1, and to the dude who mentioned the spyglass trinket isn't usable in bearform it wasn't usable in bearform before the patch either (much to the dismay of one of our bears who picked one up a couple of weeks back)

Protip: Try looking at the screen after you've typed to make sure all the words made it out there.

Is it a multiplicative buff with the speed you have while mounted (100% mounted + 50% Blazing Speed = xxx% movement speed? Or does it dismount you automatically?

On each attempt since 2.1 we have had Al'ar get "stuck" (for lack of a better word) on position 1 if he is allowed to quill twice. After he lands at position 1 after his quill, he would still spawn adds, but he would just sit at position 1 and not shift unless allowed to quill again. Not that this was a bad thing, but on our kill last night he actually moved as advertised for the first time for us since 2.1.

I havn't tested it this patch (been out of town) but originally it would just proc, remove snares and you could keep running on your mount. You wouldn't actually move any faster.

On our kill last night he got stuck on position 1, just like he almost always ended up doing before.

It really felt like to me at Al'ar's max hitbox you could outrange melt armor, but this may be false. I could have just gotten lucky but we only had 1 melt armor in all of phase 2 on Tuesday.



This is definitely the case, scalding water now hits for 500 * .84 = 420/421 range on the tank, it no longer gets an additional 10% reduction from counting as "Damage towards yourself". I am curious if any other affects that the 10% damage dealt in defensive stance no longer applies to as well.

One more thing we noticed with lurker is that pre-patch his spout usually went 360-400+ degrees on rotation. Last night it always ended at EXACTLY 360 degrees.