Chiquihuite

Nerf Paladins :O

I'm glad to FINALLY see new caster flasks implemented, but I'm just now looking at Arcanist Xorith in the Scryer bank and he's not offering to trade me either of these new updated flasks for Mark of the Illidari :/

Also, on a more cosmetic note, the names seem kind of...lame.

"They're Dragon Kill Points; not Dragon Feed Points"

 

Opioid

Oh man, a handful of shitty trinkets requiring (sometimes multiple) rare gems to craft, only one or two of which will be useful to any one class, and some cute little robots that are equivalent to a weak HOT at level 70.

Damn those gemcutters, always privy to the sweetest plums!

 

◊ Repeek

So does this mean they took the Arcane and Shadow resist flasks out of the game?

 

• Chicken

Yes, they did. However the Violet Eye has a new flask recipe available at Exalted reputation, which gives 35 to all resistances and increases all stats by 10.

 

Nightshroud

Volley still does the same damage against 20 mobs as it does against 1. Just tested in Deadmines on PTR.

There may still be an AoE damage cap farther along. Considering how low damage Volley is compared to other AoE and Hunter direct damage, it's a good thing we can at least hit up to twenty without penalty.

Priest Guide
Hunter Guide

 

Valjean

They added ALL of the AQ20/AQ40 enchants as vendor trainable. But the mats are different. My belief is that if you had the enchants already, the mats will be changed to the new ones, vs having two versions of the same enchant.

 

Groat

They only added some of the AQ20/40 enchants - they didn't add any of the spell damage to gloves ones (specialized).

 

Shawn

Anyone tested if Ignite is affected by the new resilience-change? Or does it only impact "real" DoTs like SW:P and Corruption?

 

Tiiki

I would imagine it's all DoT effects (incl. Rupture, Deep Wounds, Ignite, etc.)...

 

Valjean

My apologizes, you're right. The + 20fire/shadow/etc ones weren't added.

 

Groat

But yes, you were correct about your enchants being retrofitted - I had Enchant Cloak Subtlety and it was changed to the new mats when I loaded up the PTR (I liked the old ones because it was one of the cheapest to do - it takes Black Diamonds, 6 Large Brilliants, and a couple Nexus Crystals - Black Diamonds are a joke and you can solo bosses in Stratholme for the Brilliants - I came into the expansion with around 60-80 nexus crystals).

 

Ngita

Thats a shame, +15 agility to gloves has been a very steady income earner for me and with essences dropping in outlands the materials were dirt cheap.

 

Hate Monkey

Not to nitpick or anything, but the enchants and everything about them was discussed 3 pages ago, page 8 post 177 if you're interested in learning something before posting.

Don't see how that would be a problem as it is only a 10 damage difference between the new flasks and Supreme Power.

Don't doubt that Blizzard will put them on the vendors, eventually...

 

Sapp

Has anyone pulled Solarian on test yet? Still curious here.

 

Valjean

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm one of the few enchanters left on my server with all of the AQ20/40 enchants.

I think Blizzard is doing the right thing by making the enchants more readily accessible, but I'm going to miss the cashflow. It's been harder for me to make as much gold post-TBC from enchanting.

 

Ezzy

Just like Engineers should be able to dismantle anything much like an enchanter disenchanting stuff, but instead would get engineering supplies.

 

Eylirria

That's interesting, and I'm sure it's been brought up at least a couple hundred times, but, I always thought it would be nice if Blacksmiths were able to smelt down armor to get partial materials back.

 

Tiiki

It makes more sense for Blacksmiths + Engineers - though things like Primals would presumably always be lost -- recutting a gem doesn't at all though.

By its very nature a cut gem is a certain carat from a certain uncut gem. Recutting it would just involve it getting smaller and smaller :P

 

Groat

Yeah, this would definitely make it very interesting as there would then be a lot more demand for greens by everyone - problem being this would likely drive up the costs of enchanting mats.

I still hope for the day that they finally decide that enchants can be sold at auction via scrolls or runestones or whatever (it might take until expansion IV or something), but it would just make the entire system so much less painful AND it would help out the little guys - they'd be able to sell cheapy +3 stamina enchants or things like that at auction and actually have buyers. This would also help people get enchants on all their gear who don't like to have to struggle through the process of finding an enchanter to do something and gather up the mats - just buy your enchant and go.

But that's been brought up a ton of times and allegedly they like how it is currently working (even though it is a terrible system - I don't want to have to deal with these people and spamming in Org and fighting for a tip - just let me make enchants, sell 'em at auction, and I'm good to go.)

 

TheDooft

Looking at Thotbott test data it seems that :
New wrath of astromancer is a debuff, after 6s you explode making 5400-6600 arcane dmg on a 10y radius, then launching you and giving slow fall.
light of solarian looks like a 2280-2520 arcane dmg AoE

 

Docjowles

Just speculating, but to me it seems that it should not impact Ignite since it would essentially be penalized twice. Ignite damage is a percentage of the spell that proc'ed it. Fireball, Scorch, etc. are already modified by resilience, and therefore do less Ignite damage than they would be on a target with zero resilience. As I understand it, the reasoning behind the DoT change is that they will always be the same damage no matter how much resilience you stack. It's not needed for Ignite because your PvP gear already does reduce the damage, albeit indirectly.

Edit: And I agree that "what makes sense" and "what Blizzard will actually implement" do not always overlap Just posting my 2 cents on why it's not obvious that the change should blanket cover all DoTs.

 

talzar

Removed my post, it was OT

 

Riallatar

It wouldn't be the first time they've had procced effects be hit with double-bonus or double-penalties, though.

Remember how Ignite worked way back?

 

• Haphnet

I completely agree with this logic. However, the question remains will blizzard make different dots behave differently under the effects of resilience? In other words, is there something fundamentally different about the mechanics of the Ignite dot versus something like Corruption that would allow it to bypass resilience?

 

TheCutlery

They could just flag certain DOT's to be ignored by resilience...Deep wounds and Ignite would be the 2 main offenders.