2.2 PTR Patch notes available - Page 9

Northerner · 07/14/07, 3:50 AM

The need for the two flasks baffles me frankly. Perhaps I'm just a little muddled here but the only specs I see getting hurt is arc/fire or arc/frost Mages.

Oh well, c'est la guerre and all that.

Sepp · 07/14/07, 4:10 AM

Mats for the "new" Flasks:
Flask of Pure Death: 1 Fel Lotus 3 Mana Thistle 7 Nightmare Vine
Flask of Pure Light: 1 Fel Lotus 3 Mana Thistle 7 Netherbloom

The same as Shadow/Arcane Fortification are now.

Jameseh · 07/14/07, 4:14 AM

I'm absolutely delighted about the new flasks for casters. Acquiring black lotus for supreme power at the moment is exceedingly hard, either spend 25-30g on one, look for the spawn points in an overfarmed Azeroth or hope you get lucky and farm them in Outland.

Having said that, arcane/fire mages who use both arcane blast and scorch are not going to be best pleased about this.

mek · 07/14/07, 5:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Having said that, arcane/fire mages who use both arcane blast and scorch are not going to be best pleased about this.

Admitted there's one spec exactly that will prefer the old flask; but this will reduce the demand for black lotus massively, and therefore hopefully lower the price significantly.

Osse · 07/14/07, 7:18 AM

120 attack power versus 80 spell damage.

360 attack power versus 150 spell damage.

Very well balanced for the physical dps..

marloz · 07/14/07, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by Ujay

In regards to the glove enchants, Now that they have had their materials updated to match BC materials, why are essence of X still dropping off of BC elementals?

I believe they where supposed to drop Primal Water/Fire/Etc., not the old-world Essences, it was stated some patches ago. But it seems some programmer made a spelling mistake and made them drop the old-world Essences instead of the Outland-Primals.

• Chicken · 07/14/07, 8:06 AM

Originally Posted by marloz

I believe they where supposed to drop Primal Water/Fire/Etc., not the old-world Essences, it was stated some patches ago. But it seems some programmer made a spelling mistake and made them drop the old-world motes instead of the Outland-Primals.

Originally Posted by 2.1.0 Patch Notes

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p10.html
Essences (Earth, Fire, Air, Water, Living) have had their drop rates significantly increased. Also Outland creatures that dropped motes will now have a chance of dropping essences as well.

So no, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

As for why... Presumably Blizzard wanted to keep the enchants in their original shape before, but decided that in the end that wasn't viable.

Fugazor · 07/14/07, 8:49 AM

Originally Posted by Osse

120 attack power versus 80 spell damage.
360 attack power versus 150 spell damage.

RANGED DPS REIGN SUPREME

(yes yes minus hunters)

But it is nice to see some TBC flasks for casters at least. And also old enchants with TBC mats.

Also I really don't mind if casters get too much, it is always free buff to raid. Melee always had it hard and probably will have (for example more skills like Leo WW DOT please!). Still hitting mob ass seems to be more fun than nuking from 35-41 range.

Cathela · 07/14/07, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by Osse

120 attack power versus 80 spell damage.

360 attack power versus 150 spell damage.

Very well balanced for the physical dps..

In terms of itemization cost, 1 AP = 0.6 spell damage. So 120AP:80dmg is fairly close to the nominal ratio (120:72 would be exact.)

• Chicken · 07/14/07, 9:44 AM

Thottbot has some new spell data up, random stuff of note:

- There are a ton of "Brewfest" spells added.
- There's also a spell added called Beer Goggles, probably related.
- As well as an Elekk Dispersion Ray spell, mentioning it is intended to get rid of "Pesky Pink Elekks".
- The Flying Broom mentions it's "Good for only one ride.", so it's most likely a halloween item. There's three different flavors of them, presumably for different mount speeds.
- There's a whole lot of "Headless Horseman" spells added as well.

Marroc · 07/14/07, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hate Monkey

Well you'd be surprised by how many Shadow Power enchants I still sell with the Spellpower enchant out there.

Also there seems to be a graphical bug in which anything that had an Orange, Red, or Purple hew to it, is now pink, and bright pink.

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The bug is also affecting many offhands for casters, Nightbanes is the noticeable as it it very bright.

That pink is a 'missing texture' color for WoW.

songster · 07/14/07, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Coriolis

As a healer I'd probably make a +26 healing gem and that's it, and many ppl would argue that a royal nightseye is still better.

Depends how many of the cuts are getting JC-specific versions. If there's a pure mp5 one, then instead of two royal nightseyes, you could put one pure healing and one pure mp5, eand get double the benetif from those two sockets.

Groat · 07/14/07, 11:19 AM

Well, I've been going around to the different trainers and NPCs (and checking the things I already had) - found the following changes:
New Icon for Disenchant

Griftah has been removed from the lower City (Peacekeeper Jadaar has evicted him)
I went hunting for him and found him right outside the city - just about right next to the Southeast gate. He has some new items for sale - "Fine Poking Stick" and "Terokkar Lilac" (4.5g and 9g with honored lower city)
"Wrought by nature's hands over hundreds of years!"
"Rare and exquisite... just like all the others."

Enchant Cloak - Subtlety changed from my prior cheap cost to the current: 4 Small Prismatic, 2 Greater Planar, 8 Primal Shadow (I liked the old price.

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Enchant Cloak - Stealth (3 Small Prismatic, 3 Greater Planar, 2 Fel Lotus)
Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility (+20) (8 Arcane Dust, 4 Greater Planars, 6 Large Prismatic, 2 Primal Air)

The two new Enchanting Abilities trainable from Grand Master Enchanters are called :
Nexus Transformation (1: 1 small Prismatic) 90 silver (honored)
Small Prismatic Shard (1 large: 3 small) 1.35 gold (honored)

The Zeppelin Masters between Undercity/Grom'gol/Orgrimmar now have a new gossip option of "Where is the zeppelin now?" - every time I tried it though it said "I'm not sure where the zeppelin is right now actually..." Well, until it arrived - then they blast a noise and do a yell emote through the area: "Snurk Bucksquick yells: The zeppelin to Grom'gol has just arrived! All aboard for Stranglethorn!" - at that point her dialogue stated that the zeppelin is in Orgrimmar.

Kaubel · 07/14/07, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Osse

120 attack power versus 80 spell damage.

360 attack power versus 150 spell damage.

Very well balanced for the physical dps..

Boo frikin' hoo. Did you copy-paste this to the Blizzard forums?

Xabu · 07/14/07, 12:13 PM

Enriched Terocone Juice is now 36 silver for 5 as opposed to the 36 copper it was before.

The exalted Sha'tari Skyguard trinkets are now a 50% chance to proc after killing blow as opposed to the 30% before.

New Arena Shields 1875 points.

Also I didn't see anyone else point it out nor mention it in this thread, but the distinct "click" noise of when you hit a spell as another is casting is now registering for every single click during the cast duration, as opposed to on live where it was somewhat delayed if you were truly "mashing" the button. Somewhat annoying, but I'm sure there's a workaround.

Osse · 07/14/07, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

Boo frikin' hoo. Did you copy-paste this to the Blizzard forums?

Nay.

Why do you bother commenting? Just out of interest.

Nausicca · 07/14/07, 1:03 PM

Probably because your comment wasnt consructive in any way, it was just a whine. Also because he is apparently 'King of the Impossible' and a forum Mod and he can comment on pretty much anything.

Osse · 07/14/07, 1:08 PM

So to not get commented I have to use a lot of advanced words and make sentences longer so it doesnt look like a whine, right?

I was reading MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Guides and Raid Strategies and found this:

Also, the change on the Blind skill was in the patch notes, but won't go live (and isn't even on the PTR it seems)

I guess thats about blind cd reduction?

Anias · 07/14/07, 1:09 PM

360 * .6 = 210

Previous flask was 360 ap, caster flask should have been 210 accordingly, but was never implemented so they used the old 150 one.

Flasks nerfed, new relentless assault is 120, 120*.6 = 72. Damage to a single school instead of "all schools" costs slightly less than a point per, so the 80 is correct.

I'd say the reason he commented was that your post showed a glaring inability to reason, and he was trying to be nice rather than infract you for it.

Kaubel · 07/14/07, 1:17 PM

Originally Posted by Osse

So to not get commented I have to use a lot of advanced words and make sentences longer so it doesnt look like a whine, right?

Well in three posts now, I still don't know if you like or dislike the comparison, so you tell me. To myself and several others, it was 'QQ' bullshit.

Originally Posted by Nausicca

he is apparently 'King of the Impossible'

You don't listen to Queen, do you? Shame!

Groat · 07/14/07, 1:29 PM

Okay, and for people who only like pictures, here, I took some screenshots:

New Icon for Disenchanting:

Griftah's new location:

New NPC that patrols inside Org back and forth between the Goblin Engineers way in the back and the Zeppelin tower (long long long patrol):

And the most interesting one of the bunch:

My mouse stumbled over this frame which is hidden except on rollover - it can be repositioned anywhere by dragging - looks like the name of the person speaking over the in game voice will show up on this frame.

Nausicca · 07/14/07, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

You don't listen to Queen, do you? Shame!

Oh ive just made the connection.

I love you Kaubel but we only have 3 forum posts to save the earth!

Stefan · 07/14/07, 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by Groat

And the most interesting one of the bunch:

My mouse stumbled over this frame which is hidden except on rollover - it can be repositioned anywhere by dragging - looks like the name of the person speaking over the in game voice will show up on this frame.

Very nice find, this makes me think they will introduce the guild banks as well.

Vhex · 07/14/07, 2:14 PM

Originally Posted by Opioid

You have just destroyed the warlock as PVP viable. It might be okay for other classes with escape spells or the toughness to survive, but Seduce/Fear is the backbone of the class.

Look at how quickly an undead warrior with Insignia will destroy us. Now pretend that EVERYONE gets the same sort of will-of-the-forsaken active prevention. Extremely poorly thought out idea.

You're right. It would be impossible to tweak as necessary. Let's just leave the system horribly broken where going up against a warlock is an exercise in futility. Trying to establish some sort of middle ground and go from there is clearly whacko jacko. I should be ashamed of myself for even suggesting that.

Here's an idea, sit yourself down and think about the whole thing rather then just picking out the one little part that has the potential to bring a class in line with everyone else and crying about it.

Anyways...

Those enchanting mats aren't ~too~ bad. I don't know anyone who doesn't have 300 primal shadow to begin with. Does disenchanting stuff auto-loot it now though? I've never been able to pin down why sometimes the mats go straight to my inventory and why sometimes I have to loot them.

Groat · 07/14/07, 2:20 PM

Oh, I also managed to blink through the Zul'aman gates and reach a horrible under construction world that I'm currently roaming through (logged a bug over the fact that you can blink through it).

Tor'watha has the same issue and also contains a swirling raid instance portal.