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Old 07/14/07, 5:23 AM   #1
Sunchips
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New Flasks on PTR

Two new flasks were added on the PTR.

World of Raids :: Index

Flask of Pure Death - A shadow, fire, and frost spell damage flask

Flask of Blinding Light - An arcane, holy, and nature damage flask


I have yet to have success copying my character over. I'm just curious as to whether anyone knows the new mats or not, and if anyone knows if the latter flask will add to +healing as well.

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Old 07/14/07, 5:26 AM   #2
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Really awesome new flasks.
It was pretty annoying to have all new flasks but no new caster flask.
If someone knows the materials to brew these, please let us know.

I guess the holy flask will add +healing.

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Old 07/14/07, 5:33 AM   #3
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Yes, it would be fair to assume that it will. But one can never be too sure; it could easily be another of Blizzard's sour oversights.

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Old 07/14/07, 5:48 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by surrender View Post
Really awesome new flasks.
It was pretty annoying to have all new flasks but no new caster flask.
If someone knows the materials to brew these, please let us know.

I guess the holy flask will add +healing.
Its almost guaranteed it won't add +healing, just like +nature damage on any items doesn't add healing for druids/shamans.

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Old 07/14/07, 5:57 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Sunchips View Post
Two new flasks were added on the PTR.

World of Raids :: Index

Flask of Pure Death - A shadow, fire, and frost spell damage flask

Flask of Blinding Light - An arcane, holy, and nature damage flask


I have yet to have success copying my character over. I'm just curious as to whether anyone knows the new mats or not, and if anyone knows if the latter flask will add to +healing as well.
That's good news, do you know if they are world drops, rep based, mats, etc? Anybody?


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Old 07/14/07, 5:58 AM   #6
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the mats are:

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Old 07/14/07, 6:13 AM   #7
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Obviously these were introduced to use only Outlands herbs, so that's cool. But I'm confused why they'd cut down the damage on a flask like Supreme Power, and then put out flasks like these, which have a higher amount of damage. Though to be honest, I guess it's balanced by just having the damage in a couple damage type subsets.

For Affliction locks it looks like Pure Death will be great, so I'm jazzed. Gotta start saving up those fel lotuses and mana thistles now. Too bad it uses so much nightmare vine - those tree elites in Skettis don't drop that when you skin them, so it looks like actually hunting in Shadowmoon Valley is back in my herb run.

But really, they could have avoided all this by just changing the Supreme Power recipe, so why not do that? Change black lotus to 2 Fel Lotuses and you're done.

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Old 07/14/07, 6:19 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by clavarnway View Post
That's good news, do you know if they are world drops, rep based, mats, etc? Anybody?
They just replaced the Shadow/Arcane Fortification flasks with these two.

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Old 07/14/07, 6:28 AM   #9
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The few +holy damage effects currently in game don't add healing of any kind, don't think this will be an exception. "Healing" is an entirely different school of magic even if the spell effect is treated as holy or nature depending on the class casting the spell. Otherwise items that add to +healing only wouldn't be universal for all classes.

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Old 07/14/07, 6:30 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Sunchips View Post
Flask of Pure Death - A shadow, fire, and frost spell damage flask

Flask of Blinding Light - An arcane, holy, and nature damage flask
Someone forgot that there exist Arcane/Fire mages it seems
What a shame, since its really nice raiding build

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Old 07/14/07, 6:33 AM   #11
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I'm sure it's the same people who forgot that the majority of warlocks use both fire and shadow, immolate being around 15%-17% of your dps in most of the standard builds, which devalues the 54 damage from soulfrost a fair bit (it's equivalent to about 48 +dmg, if I'm remembering right) not to mention the entire shadoweaving set and shadow power pots (adept's isn't good for an affliction lock due to the crit.)

However, the +70 flasks are still available, and the mats should go down in price. I have about 50 stockpiled (got a bunch of lotus for cheap) and I don't feel like I'll be missing much using them rather than the +80's. I'm definitely going to offer them in trade to any of our mages who want, however, because I know how they feel.

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Old 07/14/07, 12:22 PM   #12
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Is it just me... or is one flask going to be in much higher demand?

Pure Death -> Mages, Warlocks, Shadow Priests (around 7 people in my raids)
Pure Light -> Ele Shammies, Moonkins (around 1-2 people)

Gotta stock up on Nightmare Vine!

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Old 07/14/07, 12:41 PM   #13
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You don't have any Arcane mages?

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Old 07/14/07, 1:56 PM   #14
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We have one mage that does arcane dps. However, he does AB x 2 or 3, arcane missiles, scorch rotation. So while he loses a little damage on the scorch going with a new flask, it wouldn't be as big as an arcane mage that does AB, AB , fireball, scorch or something to that effect.

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Old 07/14/07, 3:45 PM   #15
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Going by the usual pattern, first patch, Binding light will only affect offensive spells.

Then in the next patch, Blizz will fix it to also do healing spells, just like every other spell damage enchant/buff in the history of the game. (Especially seeing how it contains nature and holy which is the two healing categories in the game)


EDIT: And of course at only +80 healing, most would argue, Flask of Restoration is still >2x better for most healers in the game.

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