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07/20/07, 1:50 PM
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Tichondrius
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Haste/Destruction/Heroism Potions - Are people using them?
Every few weeks, I glance at these potions again. The short duration (15 seconds) and using up my potion timer always convinces me that they aren't worth it for most fights. And well looking through WWS, I don't see the Destruction or Haste abilities gained by non-Dragonspine using players. They also are one of the few boosts that people can pick up outside of the standard food/flask/oil buffs.
However, I don't hear much talk of them in strategy discussions and I don't see them in WWS.. Is anyone out there using these potions on a regular basis, and if so how are they?
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07/20/07, 1:53 PM
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#2
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Piston Honda
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I know if I care about dps on a fight I am using my pot timer on super mana potions since I have a spec that consumes a great deal of mana.
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Noobing it up on Mal'Ganis since '06
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07/20/07, 1:54 PM
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Don Flamenco
Tauren Druid
Cenarion Circle
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If I have a shadow priest I bust destro pots out. They are a nice short dps boost. Over a 10 minute fight, if you can pop them every time, thats 1.25 minutes with extra crit and a nice chunk of spell dmg. They arent the end all be all, and I'm sure most people don't worry about them.
My GF is a fury warrior, she eats haste pots like candy.
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07/20/07, 1:55 PM
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#4
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Mike Tyson
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If I were a melee class, I'd have an unhealthy relationship with haste pots. Other classes, I think, are using their timers on mana pots and such during really important fights.
I can definitely see using Destruction pots on a fight like Reliquary, though, if you find yourself needing more DPS.
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07/20/07, 2:00 PM
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#5
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Don Flamenco
Troll Shaman
Al'Akir (EU)
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I use them on hard fights if my shadow priest is alive. Otherwise I need the cooldown for mana.
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07/20/07, 2:00 PM
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#6
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Piston Honda
Gnome Rogue
Shattered Hand
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I have an unhealthy addiction to haste potions. They're like orange tic-tacs. I try to resist using 'em on farm bosses because Terocone is a pain to get, but I pop 'em like cheap balloons when we're killing something new.
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"Existence has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
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07/20/07, 2:01 PM
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#7
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Don Flamenco
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Our melee love haste pots. Destro pots, not so much, since typically they are popping mana pots.
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07/20/07, 2:01 PM
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#8
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Great Tiger
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I certainly don't spam use Destruction potions. But on the off-chance that I'm not near OOM at the end of an encounter, and the "all-out" call comes across Vent - then I will be using a Destruction potion. I have about 5 on me at all raids - not the 15-20 SMP's I carry.
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07/20/07, 2:04 PM
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#9
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The man is a stock car legend.
Shifft
Draenei Shaman
No WoW Account
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I'm haste potting every timer on recently killed/progression fights. On older fights where we don't need the extra DPS boost I'll just use them when all of my other haste buffs are up to get absurdly low attack speeds.
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07/20/07, 2:05 PM
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sssssssssshhhhhhiiiiiiiit ttttttt
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I am addicted to Haste pots. Shabadu - WWS and look for "Haste" under the Buffs section. But as Praetorian said, I am often forced to save my pot timer for a health or mana or protection potion. I'd use them more frequently but making sure I stay alive is worth more DPS than 15 seconds of haste. Using them with drums and bloodlust up can lead to sub 1.0 attack speeds, which is pretty absurd, especially if I time it to come up with my other trinkets and Shamanistic Rage.
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07/20/07, 2:09 PM
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#11
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Piston Honda
Gnome Rogue
Shattered Hand
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Originally Posted by Shifft
I'm haste potting every timer on recently killed/progression fights. On older fights where we don't need the extra DPS boost I'll just use them when all of my other haste buffs are up to get absurdly low attack speeds.
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I time 'em with my Abacus/BF cooldowns, as I believe I saw some math here that said stacking haste was better than spreading it out.
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"Existence has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
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07/20/07, 2:09 PM
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#12
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Now you're thinking with portals!
Undead Rogue
Twisting Nether
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On progression content where I know I won't be taking serious damage, or have a health stone, I'll be chugging haste potions.
Having a .98 main hand sword and a .61 off hand sword fully hasted (SnD, Haste Pot, Bloodlust, Bladeflurry) does some seriously nutty damage during it's duration.
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07/20/07, 2:11 PM
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#13
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The man is a stock car legend.
Shifft
Draenei Shaman
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Spades
I time 'em with my Abacus/BF cooldowns, as I believe I saw some math here that said stacking haste was better than spreading it out.
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Yeah, luckily potion and BF timers are the same
I also try to save both until DST procs if at all possible.
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07/20/07, 2:11 PM
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#14
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Glass Joe
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Haste Pots are to my warrior, what wow is to me. Completely unhealthy, and the worst part is any fight that we wipe on becomes that much more expensive, its really quite frustrating. Fights like Kael for example, sigh, just thinking about that 20 minute event and how many haste pots I can eat through for one person to not get a buff up that wipes the raid is really tragic. But fights where everything goes right the DPS increase from chain chugging haste pots with an enhancement shaman, and battle drums is really a substantial dps increase.
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07/20/07, 2:15 PM
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#15
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Death Knight
Quel'dorei
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I'll admit that I have yet to raid a lot of the higher end bosses, but I have found destruction potions to be useful on Gruul mainly because I only use one super mana potion on average during the fight so I try to burn a destruction pot at 50% and at 20% to add some extra DPS.
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07/20/07, 2:20 PM
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#16
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Von Kaiser
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Being a fire Mage I chose to use Flamecap and chain chug mana potions over using my mana gems and Destruction potions, add this with a shadow priest and it becomes a very economical way to increase your damage over 1 minute vs the 15 seconds for a Destruction/Hast potion.
Destruction potion - 2% crit and +120 spell damage for 15 seconds
2 Nightmare Vine
1 Netherbloom
1 Imbued Vial
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Flamecap - +80 Fire damage for 1 minute
+ Super Mana potion
2 Dreaming Glory
1 Felweed
1 Imbued Vial
I could see using the Destruction potions if you were in need of some very quick burst damage, but it's still favoring the Flamecap simply due to cast time and cast time opportunity, as due to lag I'd see 4 Fireballs being effected by the potion unless I had a Shaman using Heroism.
For Melee that typically don't chain chug potions, it would be a nice item to use in order to up their DPS throughout a fight, or when burst damage is required, pricey it would indeed help out with DPS sensitive fights.
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Austin, 85 Mage - Austyn, 83 Death Knight - Austen, 85 Rogue - Talros, 85 Feral Druid
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07/20/07, 2:22 PM
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CAUTION:SHARP
Night Elf Rogue
Shattered Hand
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
If I were a melee class, I'd have an unhealthy relationship with haste pots. Other classes, I think, are using their timers on mana pots and such during really important fights.
I can definitely see using Destruction pots on a fight like Reliquary, though, if you find yourself needing more DPS.
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We moved in together a couple months ago. Unfortunately its a rare recipe on my server and i dont know of a pot master who actually has it atm.
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07/20/07, 2:42 PM
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#18
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Bald Bull
Orc Warrior
Burning Blade
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I would use Haste potions by the dozen on my rogue if I could get the recipe for it. The drop rate must be just way too low, because it's basically never on the auction hall, and instead there are like one or two guys who try to gouge for stacks of them.
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07/20/07, 2:46 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Our locks use destruction potions on the weapons phase on Kael which is what we killed last. I think it was good to use them in any sort of fight that needs burst dps at a specific point in time (and isn't a periodic phase).
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07/20/07, 2:51 PM
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Piston Honda
Gnome Warlock
Earthen Ring
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I'm torn between using Destruction potions and Super Manas on a lot of fights. While I like the concept of the destruction pot, it's too short-lived for what it costs.
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07/20/07, 2:55 PM
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Rogue
Burning Legion
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I turned the rest of the rogues in my guild onto haste potions a couple months back and now they all curse me because they are addicted. I generally don't use them on farm content and save them for new/recently killed bosses. For instance we just downed Leotheras and I would pop them almost every demon phase for that extra boost to get him down before the enrage timer. Really the only farmed boss I will use them on is Tidewalker just because the fight is a good dps benchmark and I want to see how high I can get.
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07/20/07, 2:56 PM
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#22
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lobstar!!
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Being a potion master with the Haste recipe I make them for the rogues and hunters in my guild all the time.
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07/20/07, 3:01 PM
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Thoroughly Inebriated
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We ran healer-light for a very long time, so I got in the habit of saving my potion timer for healing pots. Now that we've started to skew our raid composition towards the more traditional 7-8 healers, I'll have to look into them again.
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07/20/07, 3:04 PM
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Rogue
Malfurion
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Originally Posted by Wodin
We ran healer-light for a very long time, so I got in the habit of saving my potion timer for healing pots. Now that we've started to skew our raid composition towards the more traditional 7-8 healers, I'll have to look into them again.
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I was in the same boat most of the time. I use Haste potions on progress nights on fights where I don't think I'm likely to die. However, with most BT/Hyj fights, I don't want to risk it since I'm usually health potting at least once a fight.
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07/20/07, 3:04 PM
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Not a Super Macho Man
Blood Elf Priest
Mal'Ganis
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I can see why they'd be so addictive for melee classes. The shared cooldown with mana pots makes it far more situational for casters though. Oddly enough it might be something worth using at Shahraz since I don't usually struggle for mana there and can only DPS 15 seconds at a time. 
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