Saber lash seems to have a 7 (maybe 6) second cooldown after which shahraz can use it at any given time.
I usually shift out to heal myself with 2p nordrassil or to barkskin/rebirth/innervate. As long as people wait for my call take the combat rez its 100% safe. You can even move out out a couple steps and get a rez off if its slightly out of range but its risky and I wouldn't recommend it unless that person is key or too many healers are down.

Our feral druid combat rezzes all the time. Even if you are slow, a double split saber lash is only 10-11k anyway and you survive it 90% of the time. So you can gamble.

We just bring an extra feral so they can switch out for double the innervate / battle rez fun.

Ok so first things first. Wow what a hard fucking fight. If it wasn't us being noobs we'd get ported into walls fountains couches, other random shit. Port on the tanks while saber lash happens spiking the offtanks to death etc... you name it and it probably happened to us.

So the reason I'm posting this is our 2nd offtank had no internet tonight so we got creative.

WWS

Notice Pheonixfury our brave paladins who ate saber lashes, healed his ass off, and kept up judgement of light for all our beloved melee. Yeah pretty stacked group but thats what we had online, shadow priest and feral druid healing ftw.

So to answer a few posts up. Yep you could have a paladin in there!

Has anyone tasted her 10 min enrage? We are hopefully ready for a kill today, but our mobilization of melee power leaves something to be desired; Is her enrage in the Vashj-end of the spectrum, or more in the Naj'entus/Archimonde end?

It's a non-factor because you'll never see it unless so many people are dead you've either already wiped or decided to reset. Because it's so unlikely to see I'd guess that it's an insta-gib type of enrage.

One more note about the paladin eating Saber Lashes.

The silence is shadow resist base, during the fight out paladin averaged about 80% resists with 250 SR, and imp conc aura lowered the duration from 8 to 6 secs which negates it pretty nicely. Also gained 23k mana from eating the damage.

Looks like JoL did 171.5k healing total for the fight as well which is pretty huge to keep that up.

We killed Mother Shahraz yesterday first time and used 2 holy paladins as offtanks. They had max SR gear (no epic legs, some green items like ring) and around 14k Hp fully buffed. Trying before with druids and warriors as offtank I have to say paladins are much better atleast before parry mechanics are changed.

Silence was not a big problem, but cant say how often they where silenced. Their job was to heal each other and MT. Both healed >150k in than fight, more than other MT healers mainly cause mana returned from heals they received. One resto druid was enough with aid of random chain heals to keep them up.

It basicly turns 23 man fight what most guilds are doing atm to 25 man.

Wow, it's not like we haven't thought about it before, only that we never thought it possible with non-prot paladin HP levels.

Did they have any points in prot and/or had prot gear on?

Our paladin was just holy with mostly healing + SR gear and maybe a COUPLE pieces of tankish gear. I think after full buffs he had 15.5k life

Actually last week I was a full 41 point prot, with 20 points holy. Wore 2 pieces of tank gear (T5 pants/belt) plus SR boots, back, neck, and bracers. Buffed HP was around 14.7k

This week I’m specing into a 34 holy 27 prot, spell warding and 6% stamina are definitely handy for this. The only thing I'm slightly nervous about is lack of argent defender, but a quick finger on DS/pot should be able to compensate unless we have a string of horrid luck.

I've tanked our 2 kills so far. I have 367 SR, and 15.3k HP buffed with the standard 41holy/20prot. I still have about 1400 healing with this as well. Most Saber lashes would hit me for somewhere between 8.8k and 10k. Occasionally getting a half damage hit because of Blessed Life. I've survived a few times now during a port on us tanking by using divine shield, and clicking it off before the next saber lash. I spam the MT, and keep the other OT, a druid topped, though the druid doesn't require all that much healing.

Ardent Defender would actually be quite nice as it would mitigate a lot of damage when you need it most, which is a port on top of the tanks right after a saber lash.

Has anyone had success using a feral druid to MT her? We used one this evening in our first round of attempts since our warrior MT wasn't online and I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Our best try was around 50%, and while most of our problems were due to people learning how to deal with FA, our druid tank would often get gibbed whenever anyone got ported near him even if they ran away quickly. Wearing SR gear really hurt his mitigation to her physical attempts, but dropping SR gear resulted in quick deaths if anyone got ported near him. It seems to me that wearing SR gear has less of a mitigation impact for a warrior than it does for a druid (due to the difference of tanking stats valued by the two classes), along with the obvious benefits of [imp] defensive stance.

I like the idea of going from 23 people to 25, it makes sense. Having 2 useless OTs is a pain in the ass.

We usually use a druid to tank (although this last week we used a warrior) and the healers say the prefer the more 'consistent' damage. As far as ports near the tank, we pretty much just reset whenever that happens because, yes, it usually results in the tank getting destroyed.

Same here as far as consistency. We originally had our MT prot warrior doing it but he would fall over dead on way too many occasions. When we originally learned the fight we did the fight with fewer healers than most other guilds call for, we had 8. We only had 2 paladins on MT heals and it wasn't working. Switching over to a feral druid significantly reduced the damage as he has a lot more armor in SR than our warriors do.

As far as ports on the tanks, it's not necessarily a wipe for us. It's definitely not good but we've been able to heal through it more often than not.

So what is the primary purpose of the MT and OTs wearing SR, to mitigate FA damage or prevent beam damage/knockups? It seems to me that the beams are not a problem with the saber lash immunity, especially if you tank under a couch or up against the slanted wall. From our limited experience, even when the MT was wearing partial SR he would die if there was a port near him, so maybe it would just be better to wear none.

Mostly to prevent FA damage when (not if, it seems) FA targets get ported on top of the melee.

We got her for the first time last night after changing our positioning many times and seeing just about every bad port you can get for each of them. No idea how much testing went into this fight, but it definitely wasn't enough.

Btw, i dont know if its said already. if so i apologise for reviving an old thread. but keep your Totems up and Snake traps. Why? They are counted as players and will result in more 1 or 2 man Fatal Attrections.

Which I believe to be poor design.
Totems have only been in the game for how long?
You'd think they'd know by now to verify if random selection ability Y is finding more eligible targets than expected.

It's being fixed in the patch.

It used to be the only reason you'd bring a hunter to heroic arc!

Totems and pets of all kinds (including non-combat ones on occasion) have been valid targets for everything. I suppose its an accepted design at this point considering we've seen this behavior since release.