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Old 08/03/07, 6:37 PM   #301
Kokolums
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Originally Posted by andastra View Post
I just can't get excited about the class. It doesn't seem that there is any niche that could possibly work in game that isn't already filled by some other class, especially in PvE.
Currently there are 4 healer classes but only 3 tank classes. DK fills that 4th tanking class.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:41 PM   #302
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF View Post
While speculation is mostly pointless currently, I do agree that having a Corpse explosion skill is something that's far overdue for WoW.
Wondering why people cite that ability instead of Death and Decay.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:41 PM   #303
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Transform your hero's look with new character-customization options, including new hairstyles and dances.
I'm really hoping they allow me to change the hair on my current character, I'd love to be able to change my hair not to clip through every headpiece I've found. New dances shall be...Interesting.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:42 PM   #304
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Are any of these streams going to be available for download/stream at a later time?

"Information is ammunition."

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Old 08/03/07, 6:43 PM   #305
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I always wanted to tank with a two-hander.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:44 PM   #306
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Ugh, this octoshape plugin keeps telling me "you cannot get this stream now, try again later".

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Old 08/03/07, 6:46 PM   #307
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Originally Posted by mek View Post
Yep, and Wikipedia's Death Knight article cites a Fiend Folio in 1981.

Tolkien should just rise from the grave and sue the crap out of everyone. Then fantasy would have to be *gasp* creative!
Except most of Tolkien's characters, races, and stories have roots in Celtic and Norse mythology. Those celts should just rise from their graves and sue the hell out of Tolkien.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:47 PM   #308
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Originally Posted by Instadeath View Post
With the updates to Emerald Dream stuff in the 2.2 patch I could see the Emerald Dream being the new 25 man CoT instance that is released before WotLK. It's just a hunch and doesn't really fit into the current storyline, but anything is possible. I just know they know that their player base wants it and it really wouldn't fit into WotLK. With the dwarf lore being delved into in WotLK I'd be willing to bet Grim Batol and Uldum are opened in it.
Whaaa...?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Uldum open with WotLK, since Ulduar will be in Northrend. Emerald Dream will probably get its own expansion, though.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:48 PM   #309
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Hmm. So another 10 levels. And all the healers/tanks will spec dps to make those levels and do the quests, then spec back.

Still no solution after all this time to the situation where essential specs are served with a dose of pure pain.

How about this: Put a talent - high up in the appropriate tree (eg Holy/Prot/Resto) - that significantly increases personal dps output *only* when ungrouped. Tanks and healers can then grind/quest effectively without any reflection onto the balance of pvp/instancing/raiding.

Given the number of complaints generally seen about the difficulty of finding tanks and healers, I am surprised something has not been done already.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:51 PM   #310
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Originally Posted by Arketh View Post
Hmm. So another 10 levels. And all the healers/tanks will spec dps to make those levels and do the quests, then spec back.

Still no solution after all this time to the situation where essential specs are served with a dose of pure pain.
You don't know that there isn't a solution. For all we know the 51 point talent for priests will be that one point of +healing gives +5000 spell damage against mobs.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:52 PM   #311
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Originally Posted by Arketh View Post
Given the number of complaints generally seen about the difficulty of finding tanks and healers, I am surprised something has not been done already.
The solution to this problem is talent stables. I am not sure why they have not implemented it yet.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:54 PM   #312
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Originally Posted by WoW Insider
1:28pm: Kirin Tor are setting up the final fight against the Dragonflight-- they're moving Dalaran to take a stand. It'll be the home city, and floating above the air, access it from the ground... or flying mounts. Very centrally located in Northrend-- we learned a lot from Shattrath, but build in a ton of lore and make it a really cool place.
So Dalaran is the new Shattrath, but they're fighting against the Dragonflight? ::boggle::

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Old 08/03/07, 6:56 PM   #313
andastra
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I really, really hope the pre-expansion zone doesn't kill off Kil'jaeden. If you think about it, he masterminded the invasion of Azeroth by corrupting Ner'zhul then Gul'dan. I believe he also masterminded the corruption of Queen Azshara. So almost everything that has happened so far, from Warcraft 1 to WoW, has been through his machinations. He's the uber-evil mastermind extraordinaire. Azshara, Illidan, Arthas, Ner'zhul, Kael, Vashj, etc. all used to be good guys before him. You need some dude that corrupts more people and creates more bad guys for the good guys to fight off. That's Kil'jaeden and I can't see him gone unless they bring Sargeras back from the dead or into the forefront from wherever he's hiding (if he's currently alive).

I just don't see the Lich King as the uber-evil masterminded. Wiping all life, maybe, but not creating a ton of other memorable bad guys.

Of course, Illidan said the hunter is nothing without the hunted. So maybe the next pre-expansion zone would have crazy Maiev as the last boss?

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Old 08/03/07, 6:56 PM   #314
Astrik
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Originally Posted by Hozz View Post
The solution to this problem is talent stables. I am not sure why they have not implemented it yet.
This is my #1 requested feature.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:58 PM   #315
Arketh
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF View Post
You don't know that there isn't a solution. For all we know the 51 point talent for priests will be that one point of +healing gives +5000 spell damage against mobs.
Entirely true. But Priests are not allowed to have usable talents at the top of the Holy tree. It would break the game.

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Old 08/03/07, 6:59 PM   #316
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Originally Posted by Nephros View Post
So Dalaran is the new Shattrath, but they're fighting against the Dragonflight? ::boggle::
It's completely in-theme for the Kirin Tor. To them magic is the only end, and anything that gets in the way is a nuisance. They're probably dying to get into the Nexus and are quite a bit responsible for Malygos' current anger and apparent hatred of magic, since they're so good at screwing with it.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:01 PM   #317
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Originally Posted by Nephros View Post
So Dalaran is the new Shattrath, but they're fighting against the Dragonflight? ::boggle::
They didn't say which Dragonflight though. Wasn't Deathwing (as Daval Prestor) the reason Dalaran was "destroyed"? Or am I mixing up previous lore...

So maybe they are fighting the Black Dragonflight.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:02 PM   #318
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Nope, its the Blue Dragonflight.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:02 PM   #319
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Originally Posted by Arketh View Post
Entirely true. But Priests are not allowed to have usable talents at the top of the Holy tree. It would break the game.
Don't do that. This is not the place to vent your complaints about the Priest Holy Tree.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:09 PM   #320
Jubling
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The class seminar mentions a Retribution buff in 2.3, Lightwell and Spirit of Redemption getting "tweaked", Circle of Healing beating Chain Heal, stunlock "not being a problem anymore", among other things.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:10 PM   #321
Thrawnseg
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Originally Posted by Hate Monkey View Post
Nope, its the Blue Dragonflight.
I thought the Blue flight was all but wiped out except for Malygos and maybe a few others? Or are they counting the eggs that were saved in the books.

Malygos as a boss...but he controls magic, no? So you can't kill him and still have magic, can you?

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Old 08/03/07, 7:14 PM   #322
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To starcraft we go.

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Old 08/03/07, 7:15 PM   #323
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BAH! Damn them. >_<

*loads up the wowinsider liveblog*

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Old 08/03/07, 7:18 PM   #324
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Originally Posted by Thrawnseg View Post
I thought the Blue flight was all but wiped out except for Malygos and maybe a few others? Or are they counting the eggs that were saved in the books.

Malygos as a boss...but he controls magic, no? So you can't kill him and still have magic, can you?
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Old 08/03/07, 7:19 PM   #325
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I am absolutely flabbergasted that he just said that warriors doing equal/superior damage to rogues in raids is balanced because rogues are better in the arenas.

I am absolutely speechless, and have never been closer to permanently shelving my rogue. In one panel, they've absolutely gutted my confidence in their ability to balance rogues and warriors.

Am I completely misinterpreting what he said, or is he as delusional as he seems?

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