I assumed it was a placeholder value, and that they'll probably end up using primal nether/nether vortex/sunmote equivalents or something. Of course, I might be completely off track.

The Wyrmscale leg armor is bop.

Yeah it seems they're happy with current alchemy, with new mana potions being so strong and armor potions still being 2mins/high armor. Pigmy oil though sounds all kinds of fun, probably replace deviate fishes, mini taurens looks awesome.

One thing I noticed on LW highest kit is it requires 410LW. Cap is 400, so I guess it's either a mistake, or you need new stuff to increase your tradeskills over the cap to be able to craft endgame stuff.

These... might make PVP ugly (or a lot more uglier than it already is).

I hope they add something for the spell power shaman/druid leatherworkers. I know this was tailor domain in TBC but it could be a bit annoying that a big advantage of being leatherworker is useless to you, especially with this item taking the wyrmscale name ;p.

Surely the cap should be 450? 75 per section, it was 300 in vanilla, 375 in TBC, should be 450 in Wrath (tradeskills scale differently to weapon skills, they're not just level * 5).

Well, no. We currently have [Ironshield Potion]s, but I don't see tanks forced to down them every 2 minutes. It comes down to how easy it is to get armour capped, and how important.

Sidebar: given the mats for Ironshields, would it be accurate to guess Crystallised Earth is the WOTLK equivalent of Mote of Earth? Or is it more like Essence of Earth?

Yeah, they really are.

They do in hard-hitting content. No one uses it to beat Murmur, true, but it's strongly recommended for warriors or paladins progressing on Gorefiend or Brutallus. Even as a druid I don't like the "pot on every cooldown" approach and hope they change it.

I'm more excited about the Resurgent Healing Potion. Seriously, alchemists have been BEGGING for a self-refilling pot for a while. Doesn't seem to be BoP... yet...

What content are you raiding? In any kind of progression encounter non-druid tanks are absolutely forced to down an ironshield potion every 2 minutes (Kalecgos, Brutallus, Felmyst, Eredar Twins, and M'uru all being examples).

Latest trend for druids is to put on a DPS staff for massive agility and pot these to cover up the armor loss and maintain the cap.

Or, on Brutallus, wear a tanking weapon w/ armor AND chug Ironshields on top of it for stomp.

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For the profession caps, it's very likely that they haven't finalized the recipes for 426-450, which is probably why only certain professions are open to train to 425. Some others haven't opened up yet at all, so it's likely more of a phase-in type process than 'here you go, you only get 50 pts this time to skill up.'

How is that any different than requiring healers to down mana potions every 2 minutes? It's really not that big a deal, we've been doing this since vanilla WoW.

I'm figuring that Alchemy isn't 100% finished quite yet, considering certain Enchanting options (namely Spellpower/Healing) are completely redundant and not really properly implemented.

I think it is the equivalent of a mote and the Goldclover required seems to be used in various lower level alchemy recipes too so I'd speculate that Goldclover might be the wotlk equivalent to lower level/ more abundant herbs like Felweed or Dreaming Glory, which is something that could really make a big difference.

It is exactly the same. Both are pointless and should be retuned or removed.

They are addressing mana issues for most classes though. Although that should've happened the last time we had class reviews, but then they created shadowpriests anew to do that for us instead of fixing the root of the problem.

It's not exactly the same, warriors pretty much have to pot right away, even on learning tries, when in most cases healers and DPS only start potting when the strat is refined and you're actually hurting for mana.

But yeah, they both should be reworked, or their impact reduced, but well it's not as bad as preBC either, so I guess we can live with it.


And for the 410LW stuff, my bad, forgot tradeskills don't follow weapon skill rules. It's been so long since I actually leveled any tradeskills.

Being able to gem for expertise and armor penetration is going to be fun, especially with the talk about blacksmiths being able to add sockets to weapons. 224 "free" armor penetration on your weapons? Yes please.

Looks like it's use it or lose it time for piles of BC epic gems, though. Talk about becoming radically obsolete...

Adding more valuable stats to red though... couldn't they have used blue for some of them?